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Sep 22 @ 12:51 PM ET
What do you not understand about dahlins opinion of signing.
This isn't hard.
Sabres couldn't force a long term deal... - Boss34
Very good post.
There ARE two sides, and Agents are generally pretty damn smart.
Here's the way to think about it, IMO of course...
If Adams is worried about Dahlin forcing his way out of here ala Jack and ROR in 3 years; then he like his predecessors would not done enough over the next 3 years to make Dahlin want to sign here long term.
Go fix the GD team!
The other part is that they failed to get long term value on a player who’s probably on the cusp of a breakout.
The other, other part is that they agreed on the worst of the three lengths of contracts they could have.
End of the day I’m not crying or even mad. I expected it. But as always I’ll push back against what I disagree with - sbroads24
So you're saying the Sabres learned from their Reinhart mistake, gave Dahlin the contract that made Dahlin happy and maybe in a few year more likely to resign long term
So you're saying the Sabres learned from their Reinhart mistake, gave Dahlin the contract that made Dahlin happy and maybe in a few year more likely to resign long term - Wanchuk
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
Sep 22 @ 1:01 PM ET
So you're saying the Sabres learned from their Reinhart mistake, gave Dahlin the contract that made Dahlin happy and maybe in a few year more likely to resign long term - Wanchuk
How in the world do we know what Dahlin wants/thinks at this point ?
Why do people keep alluding to this being Dahlin pushing a shorter term deal
For all we know Dahlin wanted 7-8 years, the team wanted 1 and they met in the middle
The result is the worst result for the Buffalo Sabres outside of him retiring or demanding a trade
If Rasmus likes his contract, it's already better than the Sam scenario. Logic is simply not the only variable at play. Bigger picture. - TheSabresTaco
Like having a rookie coach and second year gm get some extra time to develop before giving someone 8 x 10.
Perfect amount of time to see where power is at after 2 or 3 years.
Very good post.
There ARE two sides, and Agents are generally pretty damn smart.
Here's the way to think about it, IMO of course...
If Adams is worried about Dahlin forcing his way out of here ala Jack and ROR in 3 years; then he like his predecessors would not done enough over the next 3 years to make Dahlin want to sign here long term.
Go fix the GD team! - IonSabres
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Sep 22 @ 1:06 PM ET
Yeah that’s like 33-% of my opinion
The other part is that they failed to get long term value on a player who’s probably on the cusp of a breakout.
The other, other part is that they agreed on the worst of the three lengths of contracts they could have.
End of the day I’m not crying or even mad. I expected it. But as always I’ll push back against what I disagree with - sbroads24
probably on the cusp isn't 'he's done it'. This is exactly why he has the contract he has.
I regret the use of the word crying, it was a poor choice. But I will stick with the baseless claim that because one guy did it this year doesn't mean another guy will do it in three years.
If everyone agreed here this place would be like a Kings blog.
I think you could make a list of pros and cons for every length of deal. Unfortunately we don't know what was offered in the negotiations. I believe it's also important that he isn't treated like a robot and that he likes his contract. He bet on himself with an above estimated number that the Sabres allowed. If he earns 12M in three years, well god damnit I hope we give him that, because by the end of that contract, he'll probably earn every penny and then some.
Sure. I'm here to tell you that crying about the specific length of the contract and determining it's a foregone conclusion that it's Reinhart 2.0 is ridiculous. - TheSabresTaco
I think Sam is a bit of a quirky guy but I also think he's honest. He can believe in the org and simultaneously not want to be a part of it. He doesn't want to waste the rest of his prime on a rebuild. So be it. - TheSabresTaco
Absolutely reasonable. Same applies for dahlin. Who's just a few years younger.
They need to remove the stigma, similar to the Bill's
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Sep 22 @ 1:08 PM ET
probably on the cusp isn't 'he's done it'. This is exactly why he has the contract he has.
I regret the use of the word crying, it was a poor choice. But I will stick with the baseless claim that because one guy did it this year doesn't mean another guy will do it in three years.
If everyone agreed here this place would be like a Kings blog.
I think you could make a list of pros and cons for every length of deal. Unfortunately we don't know what was offered in the negotiations. I believe it's also important that he isn't treated like a robot and that he likes his contract. He bet on himself with an above estimated number that the Sabres allowed. If he earns 12M in three years, well god damnit I hope we give him that, because by the end of that contract, he'll probably earn every penny and then some. - TheSabresTaco
Wait, I thought it was because Dahlin didn’t want a long term deal?
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
Sep 22 @ 1:13 PM ET
probably on the cusp isn't 'he's done it'. This is exactly why he has the contract he has.
I regret the use of the word crying, it was a poor choice. But I will stick with the baseless claim that because one guy did it this year doesn't mean another guy will do it in three years.
If everyone agreed here this place would be like a Kings blog.
I think you could make a list of pros and cons for every length of deal. Unfortunately we don't know what was offered in the negotiations. I believe it's also important that he isn't treated like a robot and that he likes his contract. He bet on himself with an above estimated number that the Sabres allowed. If he earns 12M in three years, well god damnit I hope we give him that, because by the end of that contract, he'll probably earn every penny and then some. - TheSabresTaco
Also I kinda did this. The least amount of pros is the deal we signed with him.
1-2 years would have left the Sabres multiple RFA years to get a better return on trade or less UFA year they had to buy on another contract
long term is already buying UFA years and probably being a bargain deal down the road
Three years is setting the stage for a Reinhart situation if they can't sign him after year 2 It just is.
Dahlin doesn't want to sign a long term deal because the one that we would offer would be for much less than what he feels like he will be worth in 3 years.. is this not that hard to understand?
Hate the fuel the fire, but early reports are year 3 of the deal is 7.2 base salary. That means a 7.2m QO. It's the maximum allowed, after the rule change last summer (120% x 6m).
I'll always defend bridges, but KA caved on term, $, and structure here.
Dahlin doesn't want to sign a long term deal because the one that we would offer would be for much less than what he feels like he will be worth in 3 years.. is this not that hard to understand? - SabresFaninIndiana
Hate the fuel the fire, but early reports are year 3 of the deal is 7.2 base salary. That means a 7.2m QO. It's the maximum allowed, after the rule change last summer (120% x 6m).
I'll always defend bridges, but KA caved on term, $, and structure here. - Lunaion
