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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 22 @ 11:36 AM ET
swapping myers and bogo? hardly.
- TheSabresTaco


Stafford may have scored a us a few more extra goals and walked us into Dylan Strome.

We needed a Toews natural Hatty to secure last place in the last week of the season
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 22 @ 11:36 AM ET
what if he doesn't accept that
- TheSabresTaco

there is no reason for dahlin to sign long term when the cap is at a pandemic low

there is also no reason for him to sign a 1 or 2 year deal for pennies
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 22 @ 11:37 AM ET
people here have ptsd over Reinhart and it's mind bottling. Reinhart walked away because Reinhart didn't want to (frank)ing be here.
- TheSabresTaco



Would anyone want to be here right now? Last place. Dawg Sh!t. Buncha 4th line ECHL players to play with.

6 years into your career haven't sniffed the playoffs.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Sep 22 @ 11:38 AM ET
So question... If the Sabres come out today and say to Eichel OK you can have your surgery, Does Eichel actually have it?

I am leaning towards NO, and this is why. I think this whole time Eichel camp was using the neck surgery has a way to get traded by demanding the replacement surgery knowing the Sabres would not go for it. Where I think it back fired for Eichel is that all the other GM's low balled the poop out of a trade with Eichel forcing the Sabres to just keep him.

I think it was Eichels thought that the Sabres would have traded him by now and then he would just have the reconstruction surgery and no the full replacement surgery.

Just my conspiracy theory, but remember If Eichel really wanted that surgery and had the doctors to back him up, he could of took the Sabers to Medical arbitration.

I am just ready for this all to be over...



Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 22 @ 11:38 AM ET
people here have ptsd over Reinhart and it's mind bottling. Reinhart walked away because Reinhart didn't want to (frank)ing be here.
- TheSabresTaco


Certain posters do not take the "human " element.

Players and agents have a choice of staying in buffalo or going elsewhere.

I'd have to really question any player who wants to stay here for 8 more years. $ would be the only motive.

And, dahlin has been underwhelming IMO
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 22 @ 11:38 AM ET
at what point are the sabres entitled to compensation from the eichel camp due to them refusing to have the sabres elected surgery to get well, and being unable to play this fall due to his refusal to have the surgery

it's not like the eichel camp went to medical arbitration
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 22 @ 11:39 AM ET
Dahlin's still a rfa, that's the important thing.

Has he really proven to be an 8 year franchise guy?

Not in my opinion.


Takes 2 sides to agree on buffalo long term....

3 is all I would do if I were dahlin....

- Boss34


There was huge risk signing Mackinnon and Draisatil to the contracts they were signed to at those respective times.

Now those two aforementioned contracts may be the best in the entire league.

How much would Pasternak be making right now if Bruins didn’t go long term with him the second they could ?

There was a huge risk giving Risto that long term deal we gave him as well, he then went on to have ugly analytics and got moved for a very good return.

Checkmate
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 22 @ 11:39 AM ET
So question... If the Sabres come out today and say to Eichel OK you can have your surgery, Does Eichel actually have it?

I am leaning towards NO, and this is why. I think this whole time Eichel camp was using the neck surgery has a way to get traded by demanding the replacement surgery knowing the Sabres would not go for it. Where I think it back fired for Eichel is that all the other GM's low balled the poop out of a trade with Eichel forcing the Sabres to just keep him.

I think it was Eichels thought that the Sabres would have traded him by now and then he would just have the reconstruction surgery and no the full replacement surgery.

Just my conspiracy theory, but remember If Eichel really wanted that surgery and had the doctors to back him up, he could of took the Sabers to Medical arbitration.

I am just ready for this all to be over...

- hehateme



Theres no way he goes with the Fusion surgery at 25. It's not what you want to have if you want the most out of your body.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 22 @ 11:39 AM ET
tell me you can see the future and that all players walk their way to UFA and I will guarantee you free ocean front property in the Florida Keys.
- TheSabresTaco

Oh my god, what?

Here's our options

1-2 year bridge - allows player to "prove it" allows team to evaluate, doesn't bring player to UFA or arb

3-4 year bridge - allows player to go to arb, allows player to leverage most UFA years in next negotiation to get more $$

Long term extension - provides player long term security, provides team long term security that player is signed. Has potential to be a bargain contract if player hits what they were projected to be and has looked in rookie season, and after worst coach in team history was fired.


Now what option seems the least appealing
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Oh my god, what?

Here's our options

1-2 year bridge - allows player to "prove it" allows team to evaluate, doesn't bring player to UFA or arb

3-4 year bridge - allows player to go to arb, allows player to leverage most UFA years in next negotiation to get more $$

Long term extension - provides player long term security, provides team long term security that player is signed. Has potential to be a bargain contract if player hits what they were projected to be and has looked in rookie season, and after worst coach in team history was fired.


Now what option seems the least appealing

- sbroads24

I would rather have a happy dahlin making 6 mil a year for 3 years then an angry dahlin making 3 mil for a year or 2


seems like the better option if you want said player to stick around for another 8 years
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Oh my god, what?

Here's our options

1-2 year bridge - allows player to "prove it" allows team to evaluate, doesn't bring player to UFA or arb

3-4 year bridge - allows player to go to arb, allows player to leverage most UFA years in next negotiation to get more $$

Long term extension - provides player long term security, provides team long term security that player is signed. Has potential to be a bargain contract if player hits what they were projected to be and has looked in rookie season, and after worst coach in team history was fired.


Now what option seems the least appealing

- sbroads24



He's not being brought to UFA status....
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 22 @ 11:45 AM ET
I would rather have a happy dahlin making 6 mil a year for 3 years then an angry dahlin making 3 mil for a year or 2


seems like the better option if you want said player to stick around for another 8 years

- homiedclown

If Dahlin has a really good season this year, he'd have easily gotten an 8-9 mil deal next offseason.

If Dahlin has 3 good years, he's easily getting 11-12 mil down the road when the cap rises again.

This was the worst option for the team. Probably the best for Dahlin
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 22 @ 11:45 AM ET
What do you not understand about dahlins opinion of signing.

This isn't hard.

Sabres couldn't force a long term deal...

- Boss34



GMing is easy. Don't you know?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 22 @ 11:46 AM ET


This was the worst option for the team. Probably the best for Dahlin

- sbroads24


it's probably also the only way we have a shot to keep him for 11 years

I am fine with it
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 22 @ 11:46 AM ET
GMing is easy. Don't you know?
- Powerslave


Sabres make it look easy, that’s why we have a 10 year playoff drought
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 11:46 AM ET
I would rather have a happy dahlin making 6 mil a year for 3 years then an angry dahlin making 3 mil for a year or 2

seems like the better option if you want said player to stick around for another 8 years

- homiedclown


You're pulling the $3M per number on a 1 or 2 year deal from where exactly?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 22 @ 11:47 AM ET
There was huge risk signing Mackinnon and Draisatil to the contracts they were signed to at those respective times.

Now those two aforementioned contracts may be the best in the entire league.

How much would Pasternak be making right now if Bruins didn’t go long term with him the second they could ?

There was a huge risk giving Risto that long term deal we gave him as well, he then went on to have ugly analytics and got moved for a very good return.

Checkmate

- Pegullaville



Not sure if its checkmate.....

Dahlin would still have to want to play here.

How many countless players have been paid too early, and haven't panned out.

Not checkmate , pre celebration.... ☝️
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 22 @ 11:47 AM ET
it's probably also the only way we have a shot to keep him for 11 years

I am fine with it

- homiedclown


Also risk of losing him after 3 years since the next two years we will be in the Wright and Bedard/Michkov sweepstakes
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 22 @ 11:48 AM ET
Also risk of losing him after 3 years since the next two years we will be in the Wright and Bedard/Michkov sweepstakes
- Pegullaville


Lotta ifs bud.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 22 @ 11:49 AM ET
Sabres make it look easy, that’s why we have a 10 year playoff drought
- Pegullaville

It's amazing.

The same posters here stick up for every move, every season, yet were the worst team in the league.

Guess were wrong though?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 22 @ 11:49 AM ET
You're pulling the $3M per number on a 1 or 2 year deal from where exactly?
- kingcong39


Is Dahlin an RFA for one year or two at the conclusion of this next contract?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
You're pulling the $3M per number on a 1 or 2 year deal from where exactly?
- kingcong39

his 197 games in the nhl

6 mil is an overpay for his current play
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
Is Dahlin an RFA for one year or two at the conclusion of this next contract?
- Hank Balling


1 year with arb rights.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
Is Dahlin an RFA for one year or two at the conclusion of this next contract?
- Hank Balling


Only one, as he played 3 seasons already, and he will be ARB eligible as well.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
Is Dahlin an RFA for one year or two at the conclusion of this next contract?
- Hank Balling


One

The good news is that most franchise or top end players sign long term extensions at that point.
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