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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
Except that Frost wasn't getting pushed around, was winning the decided majority of his faceoffs (especially in the left circle), had four points in the two games and was involved in another 4-5 scoring chances beyond that.

York did score a PPG yesterday and was fine, although not dominant.

- bmeltzer

ghostisbhere like

Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Sep 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
Those rookie games always scare me a bit. Very early in the process of camp so guys are still getting their bodies in game shape. But couple that with guys looking to make an impression by landing a big hit or playing as close to the edge as possible and its a recipe for disaster.
- MBFlyerfan

Man it sucks we get hit so hard by the injury bug

Serious question... What other teams have had this many injuries to first round picks and up and coming prospects?
I have no idea what the answer is but somebody in here will know it
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Sep 20 @ 4:42 PM ET
Morin has had more than his fair share of injuries and is once again trying to get healthy. ASF should know better than to spread an unsubstantiated rumor like that about him. He did it for the attention/clicks. Imho that makes him untrustworthy. What good is an untrustworthy reporter?
- Scoob

Have you seen CNN?
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Sep 20 @ 4:43 PM ET
What bothers me more is that most people on this forum don't believe Morin is an NHL defenseman, never mind a 7th defenseman. I actually think Morin is pretty good and if he actually could stay healthy and play consistently, he can be a real solid defender in the NHL. I love his attitude, grit and size, something any team, especially the Flyers need.
- jd250

I'd love to see Morin stay healthy long enough to play meaningful hockey. I think he is an NHL player too
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 20 @ 4:45 PM ET
What are the odds that is his last NHL contract
- ClaudeFather


You'd think so, but being the Flyers wasted a # 2 overall pick on him, and he did next to nothing for them, he will prob go to Vegas and be instrumental piece of a Cup winning team.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Sep 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
I agree with you on this. I still think if injury is indeed a false post, then he can be a very good shut down guy if he can just stay healthy and get the reps. I have to say I do disagree with your assessments on Frost. I think he just looks stronger out there….that to me was the one thing holding him back. His skill is obvious, his ability to slow the play down and see the ice is now evident. I am much more bullish on Frost then I have been in the past.
- landros 2

I'm with you on frost. He looks good. He wasn't as strong the other camps as he is in this one and that was the one knock I had on him
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 5:04 PM ET
JD250: Bless me MJL, for I have sinned. I posted in a hockey forum that I saw Morgan Frost loose a bunch of faceoffs, when the stat sheet said otherwise. I am sorry for my sins.

MJL: For the confession of your sins, say Phillipe Meyers was unjustly traded one hundred times, followed by saying Mattias Ekholm could never help the Flyers one hundred times.

- Robert's Plant


I'll just settle for him recanting that his player evaluation skills are as good as any GM
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 20 @ 5:08 PM ET
Before the injury in my opinion Allison was close to a lock to make the team. If it is a significant injury, it opens up a spot. Whether that improves Frost's chances depends on how fixated the Flyers are at playing Frost at center.
- MJL


Interesting. So your stance is now changing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 5:09 PM ET
Interesting. So your stance is now changing.
- Peter Richards


Interesting. Which stance are you referring to?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 20 @ 5:10 PM ET
Theoretically, they could also move Brassard to a wing and play Frost at center, although I tend to think they won't do that to start the season.
- bmeltzer


Bill. If he does slot into the 3 c who would you start as his wingers?

I could see g eventually but not at the start. Could see Scott and bee or brassard
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 20 @ 5:10 PM ET
Have you seen CNN?
- Bob Habib

And Fox and MSNBC and....


THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Sep 20 @ 5:34 PM ET
He won 60 percent of his draws yesterday.
- bmeltzer

Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Sep 20 @ 5:46 PM ET
And Fox and MSNBC and....
- Scoob

All of them are garbage! I agree
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 20 @ 5:47 PM ET
Except that Frost wasn't getting pushed around, was winning the decided majority of his faceoffs (especially in the left circle), had four points in the two games and was involved in another 4-5 scoring chances beyond that.

York did score a PPG yesterday and was fine, although not dominant.

- bmeltzer



Multiple people have ASF syndrome today. Just making poop up.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Sep 20 @ 5:48 PM ET
This season cannot get here fast enough.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Sep 20 @ 5:48 PM ET

So…fake news on Morin. Since I know no one wants to read 4 or more paragraphs about why that makes me mad, I will shut up now.

corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Sep 20 @ 5:50 PM ET
Never been a fan of his. How irresponsible to post that information when he obviously did not have legitimate information.
- MJL



"Sources say"
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Sep 20 @ 5:59 PM ET
What he may have had -- and I don't know if his source was the same as mine but I suspect it was, because I'd heard the exact same thing on Saturday he reported yesterday -- was someone credible enough for the reporter take the info higher in the org for confirmation or denial. But until you get that or the player himself confirms, it's wiser just to hold off on it for however long is necessary. It's frustrating, but it's a safeguard against putting out exaggerated or wrong info.

Ant must have felt he had sufficient confirmation even in lieu of GM/AGM on the record or player on/off record.

- bmeltzer


Circle the wagons -- he has not deleted the tweet or issued a correction -- says a lot about the man as a professional journalist
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 20 @ 6:05 PM ET
You'd think so, but being the Flyers wasted a # 2 overall pick on him, and he did next to nothing for them, he will prob go to Vegas and be instrumental piece of a Cup winning team.
- PLindbergh31

There’s always that
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 20 @ 6:47 PM ET
I did want to give him another year, but I'm also kind of relieved I won't have to watch and hold my breath every time this kid gets hit.
- Ftown19125


Agree. Last season every time he did and got back out there I was hoping he would flip a switch. Then…,,,nothing changed. Would’ve preferred to wait until this year but it is done now. We will see how he does with vegas.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Sep 20 @ 7:15 PM ET
Circle the wagons -- he has not deleted the tweet or issued a correction -- says a lot about the man as a professional journalist
- corduroy


As far as I’ve seen Sam hasnt denied he injured his knee. All he said is that it’s not major. From what Carchidi says Sam’s going to miss the start of camp. For a guy with his injury history, that sounds pretty significant to me.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Sep 20 @ 7:25 PM ET
Not sure what to believe on Twitter after the Anthony nonsense but anyways:

https://twitter.com/b_som.../1440087982254350340?s=21
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Sep 20 @ 7:50 PM ET
Mmm
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Sep 20 @ 7:51 PM ET
da fuq is wrong with people like you?
- MBFlyerfan

They need to come on here for attention. Just like Sheldon (PT).
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Sep 20 @ 8:03 PM ET
Listen, go back to beating up on Ant ... at least he deserves it!
- jd250

Dude it sounds like you didn’t even watch the game. Guy won 60%. Just move on
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