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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 21 @ 2:14 PM ET
Good sleeper pick for the LW with Malkin and Kapanen.
- burgh4life87


Yeah, I dont think its that far fetched. He plays a non stop aggressive game and likes to be around the net from everything Ive seen and read. Could end up complementing those two well.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 21 @ 3:56 PM ET
Jake-Carter-Rust
Zucker-Blue-Kap
Heinen-ERod-McGinn (I believe they both play either side)
ZAR/Hallander-Boyle-Legare/ZAR

- Rinosaur


Guess Simon and Lafferty will also be in contention.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 21 @ 4:11 PM ET
Guess Simon and Lafferty will also be in contention.
- VeryModernMan


Definitely, but I would be surprised if they didn't take this opportunity give a few of those guys a couple of NHL games before sending them back.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
Guess Simon and Lafferty will also be in contention.
- VeryModernMan

Probably Zohorna above them.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 21 @ 4:58 PM ET
Definitely, but I would be surprised if they didn't take this opportunity give a few of those guys a couple of NHL games before sending them back.
- Rinosaur

I think someone will get a look. It may very well be Legare with that scoring ability. Gonna need all we can get the first couple weeks.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 21 @ 6:57 PM ET
I think someone will get a look. It may very well be Legare with that scoring ability. Gonna need all we can get the first couple weeks.
- 668710


Yeah. I'm sure Simon and Lafferty will be parts of the team on a somewhat regular basis, but they should get those guys a look early on and get a sense of where they stand.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Sep 21 @ 8:42 PM ET
Anyone who is upset with Hexy, just look what could have been if Bill Guerin got the job! He just overpaid a player who has 51 points in 55 games with a 5 year $9 million per year deal. Plus after having 4.7 of dead cap money this year will have over 12.7 dead cap next year and 14.7 the next two years.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 21 @ 10:18 PM ET
Anyone who is upset with Hexy, just look what could have been if Bill Guerin got the job! He just overpaid a player who has 51 points in 55 games with a 5 year $9 million per year deal. Plus after having 4.7 of dead cap money this year will have over 12.7 dead cap next year and 14.7 the next two years.
- stevens87

Lol, you watch the kid play? It was his rookie season. He was on pace for 40 goals for 82 game season. He's really good. Now the Parise and Suter buyouts are terrible, I will agree with that.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 21 @ 11:51 PM ET
Lol, you watch the kid play? It was his rookie season. He was on pace for 40 goals for 82 game season. He's really good. Now the Parise and Suter buyouts are terrible, I will agree with that.
- 668710


He was out of bounds, good. He's going one of top ten players in this league sooner rather than later.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 22 @ 6:04 AM ET
Are any of these kids mean? Can they fight, or are they at least the type of people who don’t back down from a fight? Pens culture needs to change. Screw all these kids if they are just more Guentzel and Brian Rust types. Good at hockey and good at losing.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Sep 22 @ 7:53 AM ET
Are any of these kids mean? Can they fight, or are they at least the type of people who don’t back down from a fight? Pens culture needs to change. Screw all these kids if they are just more Guentzel and Brian Rust types. Good at hockey and good at losing.
- Grinder47


Yes, the types that propelled them to back to back cups...we don't want those types...

I get what you're saying to a degree here but those two players you singled out were young spark plugs that scored. You have to score to win. Jakey scored most playoff goals for a rookie, or was very close to most ever I believe, with 5 of them being game winners in the 2017 run. He's been a 40 goal scorer in this league. You can't honestly say you hope the prospects don't turn out like him, can you? hahaha

Having said all of that, not that I think they're locks to be NHL mainstays, in fact its hard to think they will be for me, but Hallander, Poulin and Legere all play a harder nosed game than Jakey.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Sep 22 @ 8:14 AM ET
He was out of bounds, good. He's going one of top ten players in this league sooner rather than later.
- Rinosaur



Yeah, he's nuts. Special talent for sure.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 22 @ 8:21 AM ET
Yes, the types that propelled them to back to back cups...we don't want those types...

I get what you're saying to a degree here but those two players you singled out were young spark plugs that scored. You have to score to win. Jakey scored most playoff goals for a rookie, or was very close to most ever I believe, with 5 of them being game winners in the 2017 run. He's been a 40 goal scorer in this league. You can't honestly say you hope the prospects don't turn out like him, can you? hahaha

Having said all of that, not that I think they're locks to be NHL mainstays, in fact its hard to think they will be for me, but Hallander, Poulin and Legere all play a harder nosed game than Jakey.

- MattStrat

Yea, this haha
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 22 @ 9:15 AM ET

Having said all of that, not that I think they're locks to be NHL mainstays, in fact its hard to think they will be for me, but Hallander, Poulin and Legere all play a harder nosed game than Jakey.

- MattStrat


How a player plays outside the NHL and how they play inside the NHL can change drastically when faced the better competition. That level play is much harder to sustain playing against the big boys, so I'd probably wait before making that kind of comparison.

That said, while Jake may not be a power forward, he certainly doesn't shy away from the physical play. There's something to be said for how he sacrifices his body to get scoring chances. Dude takes a severe beating and keeps on coming back for more, and that's something that shouldn't be overlooked.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Sep 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
Lol, you watch the kid play? It was his rookie season. He was on pace for 40 goals for 82 game season. He's really good. Now the Parise and Suter buyouts are terrible, I will agree with that.
- 668710


That's the point it's only his rookie year. To me paying a guy 9 mil a year based off 55 games is just stupid! Look at Laine's production his first two years. Now look at him!
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 22 @ 9:31 AM ET
That's the point it's only his rookie year. To me paying a guy 9 mil a year based off 55 games is just stupid! Look at Laine's production his first two years. Now look at him!
- stevens87


You have to look beyond the production here. Laine, for as many nasty goals as he scored, did NOT pull off the type of plays Kaprizov has. Not even close.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Sep 22 @ 9:32 AM ET
That's the point it's only his rookie year. To me paying a guy 9 mil a year based off 55 games is just stupid! Look at Laine's production his first two years. Now look at him!
- stevens87

Laine sucked
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Sep 22 @ 9:33 AM ET
You have to look beyond the production here. Laine, for as many nasty goals as he scored, did NOT pull off the type of plays Kaprizov has. Not even close.
- Rinosaur

This.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Sep 22 @ 9:40 AM ET
How a player plays outside the NHL and how they play inside the NHL can change drastically when faced the better competition. That level play is much harder to sustain playing against the big boys, so I'd probably wait before making that kind of comparison.

That said, while Jake may not be a power forward, he certainly doesn't shy away from the physical play. There's something to be said for how he sacrifices his body to get scoring chances. Dude takes a severe beating and keeps on coming back for more, and that's something that shouldn't be overlooked.

- Rinosaur


I said "Having said all of that, not that I think they're locks to be NHL mainstays, in fact its hard to think they will be for me..."


Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 22 @ 9:44 AM ET
I said "Having said all of that, not that I think they're locks to be NHL mainstays, in fact its hard to think they will be for me..."
- MattStrat


I was speaking more to the style of play you pointed out.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Sep 22 @ 9:48 AM ET
I was speaking more to the style of play you pointed out.
- Rinosaur



ohh gotchya, sorry...carry on...

j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 22 @ 9:51 AM ET
Bill Guerin is definitely not good at his job. No clue how he’s still employed at this point.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 22 @ 9:53 AM ET
How a player plays outside the NHL and how they play inside the NHL can change drastically when faced the better competition. That level play is much harder to sustain playing against the big boys, so I'd probably wait before making that kind of comparison.

That said, while Jake may not be a power forward, he certainly doesn't shy away from the physical play. There's something to be said for how he sacrifices his body to get scoring chances. Dude takes a severe beating and keeps on coming back for more, and that's something that shouldn't be overlooked.

- Rinosaur


He's being pushed around and falling much more since that major injury. He also likes to just lay on the ice and stare refs for a call a bit too much. Pre injury Jake was a different player to my eyes than post injury Jake. Hopefully he can back to his pre injured ways.

Jake's rookie season wasn't until he was 23. I'm very interested to see how the two 20 year olds, Poulin and Legare, look in the AHL this season. I think Hallander will start the season on the 4th line.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Joined: 10.05.2005

Sep 22 @ 10:06 AM ET
You have to look beyond the production here. Laine, for as many nasty goals as he scored, did NOT pull off the type of plays Kaprizov has. Not even close.
- Rinosaur


Still, he has only played 55 games. Hugh risk! Plus as Coach Tomlin would say "You don't get extra for style points."
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 22 @ 10:08 AM ET
Still, he has only played 55 games. Hugh risk! Plus as Coach Tomlin would say "You don't get extra for style points."
- stevens87


Did you actually watch him play? Seeing a few highlights doesn't count lol
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