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Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 17 @ 2:53 PM ET
I never did.

Never will.

- Scabeh


You posted the end of a lost series of the leafs.

That’s deliberately trying to be insulting

Don’t try to twist that around.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 17 @ 2:56 PM ET
Sandin sure as poop isn't 2nd best. He hasn't even made the line up yet? (and let us not forget his playoff performance last year)

Rielly is a 1B defenseman, meaning his is not Hedman who is without question a 1A and that's because he isn't perfect defensively and doesn't play physical. He doesn't clear the front of the net or box out too well and he doesn't punish the opposition for being there.

Muzz is our BEST defensive defenseman and way more under rated than Rielly. I would rate him a 2A or very close to a 1B...if he was playing with Hedman, that pairing would be one of the best.

Sandin is PROJECTED to be ??? Who knows yet? He hasn't even played a full NHL season and couldn't beat out Dermott for his spot yet.

Holl is a 5A and Dermott is a 7A, maybe a 6B.

That's why our D is not ready for a long playoff run IMHO. We don't have the true talent in each spot, Cap issues.

Goalie position is wonky at best.
Defense is one injury away from a poop show.
Bottom 6 is a mish mosh of spare parts with no discernible logic to its assembly....due to limited Cap space.
Top 6 so far has been a no show when it counts.

SO...if the top 6 can dig in, the bottom 6 can find some structure with the players on hand, the D can avoid injury and the goalies don't need therapy before the playoffs, the Leafs should win the Cup this year.


- underhill14


Rielly is overrated. There, I said it. He's a damn good skater and a decent passer... His skating is the only part of his game I would consider elite.

He can't play defense. He is horrific positionally and prone to (frank) ups. He's soft, he has a weak shot... His offense is predictable and generic.

Muzzin and Brodie are far superior all around defenseman, there's no question.

For someone who's so automatic to obsessively whine about Nylander's defensive game to rant and rave about how amazing Rielly is when his actual job is to play defense is (frank)ing bananas.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 17 @ 2:56 PM ET
Not sure, but looking at the blue Jays they have a 15000 limit. Looks about 30% capacity.
- bryant

Except that's considered "outdoors" - so in theory, the Leafs should be lower.

I'm on hold right now with MLSE - going to ask them.

If the numbers are low, I wonder what the ticket re-sale market is going to look like for a pre-season game.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
You posted the end of a lost series of the leafs.

That’s deliberately trying to be insulting

Don’t try to twist that around.

- Dozzer


We lost? Thanks Dozzer
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
We lost? Thanks Dozzer
- Canada Cup


Don’t turn my warnings to posters into sarcasm please and thank you
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 17 @ 3:03 PM ET
We lost? Thanks Dozzer
- Canada Cup

Just wait until you hear about Darryl Sittler tearing the C off his jersey.

Or Kerry Frankface Fraser.

The Muskoka Five...

Two firsts and a second...

Salutegate...

You're in for a helluva ride, Cupsie.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:04 PM ET
Just wait until you hear about Darryl Sittler tearing the C off his jersey.

Or Kerry Frankface Fraser.

The Muskoka Five...

Two firsts and a second...

Salutegate...

You're in for a helluva ride, Cupsie.

- Atomic Wedgie


That's a bait for me isn't it?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
Rielly is overrated. There, I said it. He's a damn good skater and a decent passer... His skating is the only part of his game I would consider elite.

He can't play defense. He is horrific positionally and prone to (frank) ups. He's soft, he has a weak shot... His offense is predictable and generic.

Muzzin and Brodie are far superior all around defenseman, there's no question.

For someone who's so automatic to obsessively whine about Nylander's defensive game to rant and rave about how amazing Rielly is when his actual job is to play defense is (frank)ing bananas.

- joel878

I like morgan but agree he is a little over-rated at times.
Hes a good skater and passer for sure....but defensively, as you pointed out, not that great.
Definitely not an 8m per dman.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
That's a bait for me isn't it?
- Scabeh

This is what I find so funny about the Leafs thread:

Trolls don't need to troll here. If you troll in a Leafs thread, it just reflects badly on the troll. It looks really sad, actually.

If you really want to see Leafs fans suffer, FFS, just let us do our own thing. Sooner or later, we all turn on each other, the infighting is legendary, and then the damn team chokes in the playoffs.

It's the passion that unites us all.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:10 PM ET
This is what I find so funny about the Leafs thread:

Trolls don't need to troll here. If you troll in a Leafs thread, it just reflects badly on the troll. It looks really sad, actually.

If you really want to see Leafs fans suffer, FFS, just let us do our own thing. Sooner or later, we all turn on each other, the infighting is legendary, and then the damn team chokes in the playoffs.

It's the passion that unites us all.

- Atomic Wedgie





It IS pretty entertaining.

At least there's plenty of hockey discussion going around though.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:11 PM ET
Leafs Nation article suggests :

Bunting Matthews Marner
Kerfoot Tavares Nylander
Ritchie Kampf Kase
Mikheyev Spezza Simmonds

I see a few problems…..
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 17 @ 3:13 PM ET
It's quickly becoming evident that I'm going to be working all franking weekend, as I continue to wait on stuff that would take people 3 minutes to do if they just franking sat down and did it.

This is what I hate about not working in the office - you can't barge into someone's office and put something right in front of them.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
I like morgan but agree he is a little over-rated at times.
Hes a good skater and passer for sure....but defensively, as you pointed out, not that great.
Definitely not an 8m per dman.

- Fakepartofme


Not for me either. But he's way better than Nurse and he got $9.25. Someone will pay him bigtime.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
Leafs Nation article suggests :

Bunting Matthews Marner
Kerfoot Tavares Nylander
Ritchie Kampf Kase
Mikheyev Spezza Simmonds

I see a few problems…..

- mr.sir


Switch Bunting and Ritchie and I'm good.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
Leafs Nation article suggests :

Bunting Matthews Marner
Kerfoot Tavares Nylander
Ritchie Kampf Kase
Mikheyev Spezza Simmonds

I see a few problems…..

- mr.sir

Like the three unknowns in bunting, kampf and kase?
Lots of questions
Im sure some will be answered in the next several months.
Hopefully positive answers
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
Not for me either. But he's way better than Nurse and he got $9.25. Someone will pay him bigtime.
- winsix


Oh someone can
Hopefully not the leafs
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:19 PM ET
Winsix

Do not post nudity, even if it is only a cartoon gif
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 17 @ 3:19 PM ET
Oh someone can
Hopefully not the leafs

- Fakepartofme

Rielly is absolutely an $8mil Dman.

Marner is a $10.9mil forward.

Leafs fans are ungrateful towards the star players we have.

Except Matthews, everyone loves him.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 17 @ 3:21 PM ET
They can always move Nylander to LW and Mikheyev to RW to even things out
- mr.sir

Shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
Rielly is absolutely an $8mil Dman.

Marner is a $10.9mil forward.

Leafs fans are ungrateful towards the star players we have.

Except Matthews, everyone loves him.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Everyone except Aetherial and Dozzer

Matthews 🥇
Mikheyev 🥈
Niemela 🥉

JMO
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
Rielly is absolutely an $8mil Dman.

Marner is a $10.9mil forward.

Leafs fans are ungrateful towards the star players we have.

Except Matthews, everyone loves him.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

With a few rare exceptions, Leafs Nation always hates our guys with talent, but worship the Wade Belaks and Tie Domis.

It's strange.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
With a few rare exceptions, Leafs Nation always hates our guys with talent, but worship the Wade Belaks and Tie Domis.

It's strange.

- Atomic Wedgie


That actually applies to most fanbase I believe.

Habs fans ripped on Pacioretty for years despite him being obviously our best forward for a while.... but at the same time we're cheering their heart out to Steve Begin.

Bottom line, it's all about expectations. If the guy on your team meets them, you're happy.

Sometimes though, expectations are just too great and it's impossible for the player to ever make people happy.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
Rielly is absolutely an $8mil Dman.

Marner is a $10.9mil forward.

Leafs fans are ungrateful towards the star players we have.

Except Matthews, everyone loves him.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

I like morgan.
But not at 8m. I dont care if other teams over pay their dmen, doesnt mean the leafs should

Marners a little overpaid as well.
9.9 is a better number for him
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
Rielly is absolutely an $8mil Dman.

Marner is a $10.9mil forward.

Leafs fans are ungrateful towards the star players we have.

Except Matthews, everyone loves him.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Rielly would be overpaid at that price.

The leafs best d man only was plus 11, which ties him only 40th amongst defensemen in the league
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 17 @ 3:30 PM ET
I heard jim hughson wont be calling leafs games.


We are cup champs....the fans have finally won something

- Fakepartofme


That's legit incredible news. Thanks for that.
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