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Forums :: Blog World :: Hank Balling: 2014-15 Sabres vs. 2021-2022 Sabres (Pt. 2)
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 17 @ 2:52 PM ET
They are a bare minimum roster right now (12, 6, 2) and are at the cap.

That's with Nolan Patrick still to be signed and Tuch on IR.

Who is playing the 6th D spot if Hague is part of the deal? Whoever does will cost at least as much as he does against the cap.

Might have to be Dadonov and Smith with no Tuch due to the Vegas cap situation.

- kingcong39

Throw them Bryson, and I believe they have 2 more Dman in there system that are close.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 17 @ 2:53 PM ET
I know EK has Calgary involved in a 3 way, but I heard NJ could be the 3rd team.
- Buff36

that seems to be the only solution with a team like vegas
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Sep 17 @ 2:54 PM ET
Hank the one thing you missed in you comparisons of that 2014 15 and 2021 sabres is team toughness!!!
14/15 team had Weber Zadorov Straccher , And Gorges on defense. And at forward Folligno , Stewart and Deslaurius on the team know that is team toughness!!!
21/22 team has cozens Hayden and Miller!
Big difference!!! When guys like Anbe- Kubel punk off Dalin? Who is going to stand up??
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 17 @ 2:55 PM ET
Throw them Bryson, and I believe they have 2 more Dman in there system that are close.
- Buff36


It doesn't matter if they have defensemen that are close.

The problem is Hague's cap hit is $800K.

Replacing him with anyone will at best net neutral his cap hit going out, and it's likely the player that replaces Hague would have a higher cap hit, even if only slightly.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 17 @ 2:58 PM ET
It doesn't matter if they have defensemen that are close.

The problem is Hague's cap hit is $800K.

Replacing him with anyone will at best net neutral his cap hit going out, and it's likely the player that replaces Hague would have a higher cap hit, even if only slightly.

- kingcong39

Yeah I actually mis read Cap Friendly and thought his cap hit was 4.2m not 800k
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Sep 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
Any Hagg to the toughness list.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 17 @ 3:05 PM ET
It doesn't matter if they have defensemen that are close.

The problem is Hague's cap hit is $800K.

Replacing him with anyone will at best net neutral his cap hit going out, and it's likely the player that replaces Hague would have a higher cap hit, even if only slightly.

- kingcong39

They wouldn't do Theodore IMO, would be very nice I just can't see that
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
Hank the one thing you missed in you comparisons of that 2014 15 and 2021 sabres is team toughness!!!
14/15 team had Weber Zadorov Straccher , And Gorges on defense. And at forward Folligno , Stewart and Deslaurius on the team know that is team toughness!!!
21/22 team has cozens Hayden and Miller!
Big difference!!! When guys like Anbe- Kubel punk off Dalin? Who is going to stand up??

- Rsh


Was Strachan tough? I literally have no recollection of the player whatsoever
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Sep 17 @ 3:11 PM ET
Hank the one thing you missed in you comparisons of that 2014 15 and 2021 sabres is team toughness!!!
14/15 team had Weber Zadorov Straccher , And Gorges on defense. And at forward Folligno , Stewart and Deslaurius on the team know that is team toughness!!!
21/22 team has cozens Hayden and Miller!
Big difference!!! When guys like Anbe- Kubel punk off Dalin? Who is going to stand up??

- Rsh


And look what all of that (alleged) toughness got us. I'll take hockey players any day of the week.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
Was Strachan tough? I literally have no recollection of the player whatsoever
- Hank Balling

Well he was willing to drop them, wasn't very good at it.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 17 @ 3:18 PM ET
And look what all of that (alleged) toughness got us. I'll take hockey players any day of the week.
- Slump Buster

Take a hockey player that can do both.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
Any Hagg to the toughness list.
- Rsh


Maybe big boy Brett Murray makes the opening roster instead of Eakin
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Sep 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
This team will be like the movie Major League!! They are expected to loss. One think None of you bloggers or so called experts have factored in is ?
Those men you dump on have 2things you can’t measure!! First is heart for most this is their last chance in hockey. And if I were them I’m all in. Been there and have done that !!
There is The DON of meatballs you think he wants to loss? Think for a second!! The PEGS are the female dog in the movie!!
I think the coach and players have the heart not the talent to change that!! Hey Hank pass this to the coach and players!! This just one fan opinion!!
So go sabres!!!
Ps. Buff 36 you play goalie you can use my gear I’m you old to play.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
Maybe big boy Brett Murray makes the opening roster instead of Eakin
- Hank Balling


He's not beating out Hayden...?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
This team will be like the movie Major League!! They are expected to loss. One think None of you bloggers or so called experts have factored in is ?
Those men you dump on have 2things you can’t measure!! First is heart for most this is their last chance in hockey. And if I were them I’m all in. Been there and have done that !!
There is The DON of meatballs you think he wants to loss? Think for a second!! The PEGS are the female dog in the movie!!
I think the coach and players have the heart not the talent to change that!! Hey Hank pass this to the coach and players!! This just one fan opinion!!
So go sabres!!!
Ps. Buff 36 you play goalie you can use my gear I’m you old to play.

- Rsh



This is not remotely true
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
In case anyone wants to watch some hockey:

https://youtu.be/JvNMQqbd_N4
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
Big hurdle is the cap, right, as Tuch isn't enough to make that work.
- kingcong39


It depends how you project LTIR. Not to suggest that anyone would ever manipulate LTIR...
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
He's not beating out Hayden...?
- kingcong39


Maybe there's an injury and then it's bash brothers time

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 17 @ 3:28 PM ET
This team will be like the movie Major League!! They are expected to loss. One think None of you bloggers or so called experts have factored in is ?
Those men you dump on have 2things you can’t measure!! First is heart for most this is their last chance in hockey. And if I were them I’m all in. Been there and have done that !!
There is The DON of meatballs you think he wants to loss? Think for a second!! The PEGS are the female dog in the movie!!
I think the coach and players have the heart not the talent to change that!! Hey Hank pass this to the coach and players!! This just one fan opinion!!
So go sabres!!!
Ps. Buff 36 you play goalie you can use my gear I’m you old to play.

- Rsh


This has to be Ek trolling
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Sep 17 @ 3:29 PM ET
It should be interesting to see if the Pegulas are accessible tonight as they were on this night two years ago. It's a really small venue and they were walking all over the concourse interacting with fans.

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:29 PM ET
It depends how you project LTIR. Not to suggest that anyone would ever manipulate LTIR...
- Lunaion


If Tuch is traded as part of the Eichel deal, how is Vegas fielding a team when Eichel is healthy?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 17 @ 3:33 PM ET
It should be interesting to see if the Pegulas are accessible tonight as they were on this night two years ago. It's a really small venue and they were walking all over the concourse interacting with fans.
- Slump Buster


I doubt we hear much from them this year..
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Sep 17 @ 3:36 PM ET
I doubt we hear much from them this year..
- DirtyDan


We didn't hear much from them that year either, but that night they were around.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 17 @ 3:40 PM ET
We didn't hear much from them that year either, but that night they were around.
- Slump Buster


IDk, Kim loves to be in all the media videos...
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
If Tuch is traded as part of the Eichel deal, how is Vegas fielding a team when Eichel is healthy?
- kingcong39


By accruing cap space in the first half of the season. On a team as strong as Vegas, it's inviting abuse.

If Eichel returns closer to the TDL, suddenly things fit together a lot easier.
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