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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:44 PM ET
Ya again at the top where usage and GAR are both in that top percentile, that is the most elite players
- neem55


i honestly dont even pay attention to GAR. I think its sort of silly and truly doesn't paint a true picture. Usage just helps depict GAR better as it allows people to understand how often they are used relative to how often they product or don't produce. Add quality of competition as a 3rd column and things start to get a bit clearer.


Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:46 PM ET
So it’s a pile of crap/ thanks for interpreting it
- CanuckDon


its not really something that I really care for to be honest. GAR in hockey seems silly if that is the only thing you are looking at.

However, my point was, is that people shouldnt look at a chart, see the ascending or descending order of a list and use that to interpret who is better/worse lol.

Its not hard to take an extra second and decipher the context of the chart instead of screaming "analytics and charts blow cause Derek Ryan is higher than Bo" lol
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 9 @ 4:46 PM ET
That is not how this data chart should be interpreted here, usage is also key to understanding GAR. The takeaway is Ryan is a great GAR player in a bottom 6 role. That doesn’t infer in a top6 role he would have the same GAR. Therefore comparison to players with way more usage is irrelevant.
- neem55

Isn't that what Steve the Pirate from "Dodgeball" said?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:52 PM ET
its not really something that I really care for to be honest. GAR in hockey seems silly if that is the only thing you are looking at.

However, my point was, is that people shouldnt look at a chart, see the ascending or descending order of a list and use that to interpret who is better/worse lol.

Its not hard to take an extra second and decipher the context of the chart instead of screaming "analytics and charts blow cause Derek Ryan is higher than Bo" lol

- Codes1087

Nucker gets excited. But he isn’t wrong that is a worthless chart
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 9 @ 5:09 PM ET
i honestly dont even pay attention to GAR. I think its sort of silly and truly doesn't paint a true picture. Usage just helps depict GAR better as it allows people to understand how often they are used relative to how often they product or don't produce. Add quality of competition as a 3rd column and things start to get a bit clearer.
- Codes1087

I think it’s more informative for forwards than d
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 9 @ 5:10 PM ET
Isn't that what Steve the Pirate from "Dodgeball" said?
- Marwood

No that was YAR

Totally different statistic
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 9 @ 5:18 PM ET
Nucker gets excited. But he isn’t wrong that is a worthless chart
- CanuckDon


Sorta like your subjective 'alpha' and 'beta' categorisations?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 9 @ 5:24 PM ET
Nucker gets excited. But he isn’t wrong that is a worthless chart
- CanuckDon


like i said before, i don't like GAR either, but I also don't blindly hate it without fully understanding the data presented either lol

Nucker hated only what he didnt understand
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 9 @ 5:50 PM ET
its not really something that I really care for to be honest. GAR in hockey seems silly if that is the only thing you are looking at.

However, my point was, is that people shouldnt look at a chart, see the ascending or descending order of a list and use that to interpret who is better/worse lol.

Its not hard to take an extra second and decipher the context of the chart instead of screaming "analytics and charts blow cause Derek Ryan is higher than Bo" lol

- Codes1087

who needs context when it's easier to just blame the media/source?

opinions > thinking

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 9 @ 5:58 PM ET
Sorta like your subjective 'alpha' and 'beta' categorisations?
- dbot

Absolutely nothing alike. Alpha beta is the eye test which trumps analytics
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 9 @ 6:00 PM ET
Fuck it's going to be a long 5 weeks.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 9 @ 6:02 PM ET
who needs context when it's easier to just blame the media/source?

opinions > thinking


- RealityChecker


if it was slotted into an excel document or a pie chart, I want nothing to do with it
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 9 @ 6:04 PM ET
Absolutely nothing alike. Alpha beta is the eye test which trumps analytics
- CanuckDon


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RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 9 @ 6:09 PM ET
if it was slotted into an excel document or a pie chart, I want nothing to do with it
- Codes1087

I only consume news and analysis through Tik Tok. It's the only way to avoid the media driven narratives.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 9 @ 6:10 PM ET
I only consume news and analysis through Tik Tok. It's the only way to avoid the media driven narratives.
- RealityChecker

Well said, patriot.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Sep 9 @ 6:11 PM ET

- Marwood

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 9 @ 6:16 PM ET
I only consume news and analysis through Tik Tok. It's the only way to avoid the media driven narratives.
- RealityChecker


Tik tok is completely unreliable. If it isn't Facebook, it's fakenews my friend.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Sep 9 @ 6:30 PM ET
Tik tok is completely unreliable. If it isn't Facebook, it's fakenews my friend.
- Codes1087


I get my news from reliable sources like Parler, Rebel News, Fox News and Al Jazeera... oh, and from my MAD magazine subscription... because I like Spy vs Spy.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Sep 9 @ 6:32 PM ET
Thanks Carol



Sure feels like the matrix now a days..


RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 9 @ 6:34 PM ET
Tik tok is completely unreliable. If it isn't Facebook, it's fakenews my friend.
- Codes1087

If it ain't on Parler, I don't wanna parlez avec vous.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 9 @ 6:52 PM ET
Hello guys
Couple months ago i asked some people who live on the island some question about minor hockey(just moved on the island in july). Now i want to know where is the best store to buy hockey equipement for kid.

- Yannick72


Hey Yannik, the “Best” store is Kirby’s on Cloverdale near Mayfair Mall. They have the best, most knowledgeable staff, the best selection of Hockey, Baseball and Lacrosse gear and fair prices. BUT, you might want to get on the Facebook Marketplace, VarageSale or UsedVictoria to get a better price, depending on your child’s age and level of play (and you’re budget). I always bought my son new helmet and new skates when he needed but used pads as kids not to be as hard on their gear as adults.

We used to have a great store downtown that had new and used gear but they went out of business a few years ago.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 9 @ 7:21 PM ET
If it ain't on Parler, I don't wanna parlez avec vous.
- RealityChecker


Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Sep 9 @ 7:37 PM ET

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- dbot

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 9 @ 7:55 PM ET

- Shuswap Wap



lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 9 @ 8:11 PM ET
.Leylah Fernandez battles back to win the tie breaker of the first set. She was down 4-1.

What a kid.

She did it wow
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