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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 6 @ 11:58 PM ET
Why would the trade need to happen this year when next summer is when BB goes RFA?!
- neem55


For one thing would be to get four years of service at his 4.6 mil cap hit instead of 3.
Secondly I believe he will be traded to some team this year.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 7 @ 12:01 AM ET
For one thing would be to get four years of service at his 4.6 mil cap hit instead of 3.
Secondly I believe he will be traded to some team this year.

- VANTEL

Right. But they could trade him next summer when he has 7 team NTC that they designed the contract to possibly trade him then. It’s totally possible they trade him this year, i doubt it if they are doing well though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 7 @ 12:07 AM ET
Right. But they could trade him next summer when he has 7 team NTC that they designed the contract to possibly trade him then. It’s totally possible they trade him this year, i doubt it if they are doing well though.
- neem55


Are you talking Myers or Pearson?

Myers has handed in his 10 team list already this year and I would guess Arizona would be one of the teams

For the 2021-22 Peason can veto any trade so I don't believe Chych will be available if you wait for Pearson to waive
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 7 @ 12:20 AM ET
Are you talking Myers or Pearson?

Myers has handed in his 10 team list already this year and I would guess Arizona would be one of the teams

For the 2021-22 Peason can veto any trade so I don't believe Chych will be available if you wait for Pearson to waive

- VANTEL

Ya i dont imagine Chych is available period, i also dont know if we trade away guys this tdl. They seem to be going for the playoffs to me
insomnia183
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 06.16.2015

Sep 7 @ 12:44 AM ET
he's got HUGE hands
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 7 @ 1:05 AM ET
Yes but full NTC this year when the trade would need to happen and he could veto
- VANTEL


I suggested other avenus for short term action and only as long term plan make a trade.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Sep 7 @ 1:08 AM ET
Thanks Carol



Monster claws for sure.

Glad we got a new column, proclivities on self gratification? And I get complained at for weird talk topics.

Something's I just don't want to know, or need too. (like if you wipe)
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 7 @ 1:10 AM ET
Ya i dont imagine Chych is available period, i also dont know if we trade away guys this tdl. They seem to be going for the playoffs to me
- neem55


Vantel posted a link AZ is looking to trade Chych.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 7 @ 1:17 AM ET
Vantel posted a link AZ is looking to trade Chych.
- NuckUp

Wow, that seems insane to me to trade a 23 year old core guy for any team is just stupid... hint intended
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 7 @ 1:20 AM ET
Vantel posted a link AZ is looking to trade Chych.
- NuckUp

Vintage posted it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 7 @ 1:22 AM ET
Wow, that seems insane to me to trade a 23 year old core guy for any team is just stupid... hint intended
- neem55


Scored 30 goals in the last two years and under 5 mil AAV for the next four years
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 7 @ 1:34 AM ET
Vintage posted it.
- VANTEL


Oops got my V's mixed up but you lead the discusion so I pin this on you

Anyway, we all seem to believe it's workable. I'd play with the ask or kick it a draft over. AZ can afford the wait they'll suck balls for years.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 7 @ 1:50 AM ET
Vintage posted it.
- VANTEL


It was brought up in the comments section of the last blog, by one of the more respectable posters on here.πŸ‘
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 7 @ 2:16 AM ET
Scored 30 goals in the last two years and under 5 mil AAV for the next four years
- VANTEL


He also kills penalties and hard 5 on 5 matchups. What a true #1 defenseman does.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Sep 7 @ 2:21 AM ET
It was brought up in the comments section of the last blog, by one of the more respectable posters on here.πŸ‘
- Reubenkincade


I didn't bring it up.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 7 @ 3:36 AM ET
Scored 30 goals in the last two years and under 5 mil AAV for the next four years
- VANTEL

Unreal player, blows my mind arizona would sell is all.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Sep 7 @ 3:40 AM ET
Unreal player, blows my mind arizona would sell is all.
- neem55


Why not? Gives them better odds for Bedard in '23 where they'll be in a new building and probably in better shape financially and hockey-wise to capitalize on all the draft picks and capspace they'll have.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 7 @ 4:15 AM ET
Why not? Gives them better odds for Bedard in '23 where they'll be in a new building and probably in better shape financially and hockey-wise to capitalize on all the draft picks and capspace they'll have.
- DariusKnight

I just dont see how you sell on 23 year old core players and ever expect to be competitive. The forever rebuild makes zero sense to me. If the pkayer wants out or is a problem, ok sure. They are going to be a bottom feeder with or without Chychrun. Theres a reason Yzerman hung onto Hedman and Stamkos when he rebuilt the roster, certain players you just dont move at 23 imo. Hes maybe not going to be as good as Hedman, but hes going to be very good for another 6-7 years minimum.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 7 @ 8:26 AM ET
Thanks Carol



Monster claws for sure.

Glad we got a new column, proclivities on self gratification? And I get complained at for weird talk topics.

Something's I just don't want to know, or need too. (like if you wipe)

- WelfareWerewolf



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 7 @ 8:59 AM ET
I just dont see how you sell on 23 year old core players and ever expect to be competitive. The forever rebuild makes zero sense to me. If the pkayer wants out or is a problem, ok sure. They are going to be a bottom feeder with or without Chychrun. Theres a reason Yzerman hung onto Hedman and Stamkos when he rebuilt the roster, certain players you just dont move at 23 imo. Hes maybe not going to be as good as Hedman, but hes going to be very good for another 6-7 years minimum.
- neem55


I agree I think they are nuts also. I can see them wanting as many draft picks this year and the following so adding two more would be great but Chych's contract is insane.

I do think they are going hard at Bedard or the Russian but I also think they are going to bring home Matthews.

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 7 @ 10:18 AM ET
It was brought up in the comments section of the last blog, by one of the more respectable posters on here.πŸ‘
- Reubenkincade



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Turnitaround
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 7 @ 10:21 AM ET
If the Canucks can sign him long term for anything under $9.5M aav it would be a steal
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 7 @ 11:38 AM ET
Chychrun is not on the trade block
Craig Morgan: (responding to a now deleted tweet) Confirm from sources that Arizona Coyotes defenseman Jakob Chychrun is not on the trade block.

It shouldn’t be a surprise that he’s not available as they want to build around him.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 7 @ 11:42 AM ET
Yes. I think Kotkaniemi is unique though in that he clearly wanted out and the Habs didn't want to move him.
- Load Management


Yeah, everybody keeps saying "Why not go after Petterson or Tkachuk instead?" and the answer is that even if you get Petey to sign an $11 million offer sheet, Vancouver is probably going to match it. They basically have to.

that's why the Aho one was so stupid. You don't target stars with offer sheets if you actually want them. You target young guys that you think still have the potential to be stars.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 7 @ 1:22 PM ET
Yeah, everybody keeps saying "Why not go after Petterson or Tkachuk instead?" and the answer is that even if you get Petey to sign an $11 million offer sheet, Vancouver is probably going to match it. They basically have to.

that's why the Aho one was so stupid. You don't target stars with offer sheets if you actually want them. You target young guys that you think still have the potential to be stars.

- BINGO!

You must be livid with the KK offersheet
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