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braidan
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Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:46 PM ET
you said he was a 2 - two days ago

maybe you are right but I want to see him play first

40 points on the third line seems like a lot for a C in a cap world

- deadpoulet

I think Dvorak was brought in to replace Danault and not KK
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 6 @ 2:46 PM ET
well we don't know how good kk will be for the canes, if they will extend him, etc. He won't even play there as a C.

How good Dvorak will be in mtl? What about the picks? Where will they end up?Why does Timmins has a job? Am I really a chicken? Etc.

- deadpoulet






and yeah with all those question marks it sorta feels like it was a dumb move by the Canes, for now. KK does have potential and could become a very good player, that remains to be seen.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 6 @ 2:47 PM ET
you said he was a 2 - two days ago

maybe you are right but I want to see him play first

40 points on the third line seems like a lot for a C in a cap world

- deadpoulet

A 40 point 3C on a team with a void at 2C.
braidan
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Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:47 PM ET



and yeah with all those question marks it sorta feels like it was a dumb move by the Canes, for now. KK does have potential and could become a very good player, that remains to be seen.

- Pat1993

I still feel like he is going to pull a Leclair
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 6 @ 2:47 PM ET
I think Dvorak was brought in to replace Danault and not KK
- braidan

and everyone here thinks that on a good team Danault would be your #3C.
so yes, if they are serious about contending, they need to find a #2C.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Sep 6 @ 2:47 PM ET
The GM clearly wanted to sign the young Finn to a bridge deal to be able to assess him better in the future, but the Hurricanes’ move robbed him of that opportunity.

He had a month between losing Danault and the offer sheet being made. Bergevin tried to lowball KK and didn't thank an offer sheet was coming.

MB wasn't robbed. He gambled and lost. And the insinuating that the Canes promised an extension is sour grapes by the GM who got played.

- mr.peanut

can you tell me what does it smell like in the locker room?

Thanks mr insider peanut
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 6 @ 2:47 PM ET
Dvorak is more of a 3+ than a 2-
we still need a 2C

- braidan


That’s splitting hairs but I think it’s accurate.


braidan
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Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
A 40 point 3C on a team with a void at 2C.
- mr.peanut

Exactly he's great on 3 but unless we get an actual 2.....
it is what it is
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
well, you need to factor it in. can't take the bad and not the good.
- fidopro


my point is Dvorak wasn't part of the offer sheet per se, but a reaction to it.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
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Sep 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
can you tell me what does it smell like in the locker room?

Thanks mr insider peanut

- deadpoulet

Smells like hockey equipment and bacteria killing spray.

Edit: Don't see what I said implies being an insider. It's all obvious stuff
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:49 PM ET
I still feel like he is going to pull a Leclair
- braidan



stop this
braidan
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Sep 6 @ 2:49 PM ET
That’s splitting hairs but I think it’s accurate.
- Minnyhock

Danault was a 3 playing 1 so who knows, but we are still down a C unless camp surprises
braidan
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Sep 6 @ 2:50 PM ET
stop this

- Pat1993


sorry
Pat1993
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Sep 6 @ 2:51 PM ET
also, from the main thread :

The Hurricanes are a contending team. They wouldn’t have done this if they didn’t want Kotkaniemi on their roster.

I guess I missed the part where the canes became contenders
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:51 PM ET
I still feel like he is going to pull a Leclair
- braidan

really? may need to get the size first

Leclair was a monster playing with another one

Did he not scored 50 a few times?

can't see it
braidan
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Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:52 PM ET
also, from the main thread :

The Hurricanes are a contending team. They wouldn’t have done this if they didn’t want Kotkaniemi on their roster.

I guess I missed the part where the canes became contenders

- Pat1993

But they have been so good the last few years.....
Habs lose Weber and the world is ending
Canes lose Hamilton and meh life goes on
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
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Sep 6 @ 2:52 PM ET
also, from the main thread :

The Hurricanes are a contending team. They wouldn’t have done this if they didn’t want Kotkaniemi on their roster.

I guess I missed the part where the canes became contenders

- Pat1993

Well they did win the division with 2 back ups and a career AHLer
braidan
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Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:53 PM ET
really? may need to get the size first

Leclair was a monster playing with another one

Did he not scored 50 a few times?

can't see it

- deadpoulet

I remember saying that if Leclair scored as often as he fell he'd be a 50 goal scorer.
He wasn't all that in Mtl and then he left and stopped falling lol
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Sep 6 @ 2:53 PM ET
I think Dvorak was brought in to replace Danault and not KK
- braidan

Based on cap space alone, only real option is hoping for Poehling to be a 2C which, crazier things have happened but I wouldn't feel safe betting on it. Habs have:

1 - Suzuki - a 1C but as of now, not anywhere near the elite ones
2 - Dvorak - a 3+>2- (I liked that analogy)
3 - Evans/Poehling - Evans could be a 3 but hasn't proven. Poehling has nice tools and aize but hasn't proven anything
4 - Whoever loses above/Perreault/Paquette

So pretty much everybody playing a slot above their ideal location on a contender. Yuck
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:54 PM ET
But they have been so good the last few years.....
Habs lose Weber and the world is ending
Canes lose Hamilton and meh life goes on

- braidan

we have yet to see them play without him
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:55 PM ET
But they have been so good the last few years.....
Habs lose Weber and the world is ending
Canes lose Hamilton and meh life goes on

- braidan



yeah I guess that's why management decided to make the douchey offer sheet, otherwise no one would be talking about the canes loll
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:56 PM ET
Well they did win the division with 2 back ups and a career AHLer
- mr.peanut



their goalie management seems to have been peculiar in the past few years
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
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Sep 6 @ 2:57 PM ET
I remember saying that if Leclair scored as often as he fell he'd be a 50 goal scorer.
He wasn't all that in Mtl and then he left and stopped falling lol

- braidan


They really traded him early, even earlier than KK no? pretty sure he was way bigger than KK, who is tall but not that big

And he was playing with Lindros
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Sep 6 @ 2:57 PM ET
Based on cap space alone, only real option is hoping for Poehling to be a 2C which, crazier things have happened but I wouldn't feel safe betting on it. Habs have:

1 - Suzuki - a 1C but as of now, not anywhere near the elite ones
2 - Dvorak - a 3+>2- (I liked that analogy)
3 - Evans/Poehling - Evans could be a 3 but hasn't proven. Poehling has nice tools and aize but hasn't proven anything
4 - Whoever loses above/Perreault/Paquette

So pretty much everybody playing a slot above their ideal location on a contender. Yuck

- Takemedrunkimhome

if you consider Habs don't have a first line it works out fine.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 6 @ 2:58 PM ET
their goalie management seems to have been peculiar in the past few years
- Pat1993

I think they philosophy on it is that unless you have an elite 1C, a great defensive system can make any goalie look good.
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