price is a huge X factor
- deadpoulet

Regular season Carey

Then why the hell did you guys draft him 3rd OA...

- dozerD10

Needed a C BADLY and he has potential.
This could come back to haunt us like Leclair

Then why the hell did you guys draft him 3rd OA...

- dozerD10

That question is an onion of managerial stupidity

what about mine?
- deadpoulet

when you feed a chicken with too much nutritive food scraps, their eggs come out bloody because they are too big for their cloaca. i'm talking from experience.

I don't subscribe to the idea a 3rd line is a "checking" line anymore but I get your point
- Takemedrunkimhome

well, there should be a line that you will play vs the best forwards on the other team

call it what you want

except if the pick is top10, then they get the worst
- fidopro

well, there should be a line that you will play vs the best forwards on the other team

call it what you want
- deadpoulet

If you're a good team it's called your 1st line

If you're right (and if I had to put money down today I'd agree with you) this trade for Dvorak is just ugly
- Takemedrunkimhome

yeah, cause timmins is such a magician late in the first round

If you're a good team it's called your 1st line
- Takemedrunkimhome

But what if due to line changes or timing or etc, that you couldn"t get your first line out against the 1st line then maybe you'd want a backup line or a line that could check said 1st line.

I don't subscribe to the idea a 3rd line is a "checking" line anymore but I get your point
- Takemedrunkimhome

Neither does most of the NHL these days.

If you're a good team it's called your 1st line
- Takemedrunkimhome

meh, they reached the finals that way


mind you it was a problem vs tampa

yeah, cause timmins is such a magician late in the first round
- deadpoulet

Ok...let's pretend that's a good reason to trade away picks...Dvorak, in theory, makes the Habs better today? No? So, if with Dvorak they are better, but still finish in a bottom 10 spot, wouldn't it make more sense not to trade future assets (that could later be traded instead of used as picks) and finish even worse in a league that, despite the lottery, still rewards failure? So yeah...if they finish with a top 10 pick with Dvorak it's an unmitigated disaster of a trade

But what if due to line changes or timing or etc, that you couldn"t get your first line out against the 1st line then maybe you'd want a backup line or a line that could check said 1st line.
- braidan

What if that happens and your first line sucks but you've got a sweet ass checking line that is stuck on the missed change?

Then why the hell did you guys draft him 3rd OA...

- dozerD10

why did they pick Galchenyuk 3rd overall?


Drouin was also another 3rd overall (from Tampa)


it means what it means

others teams missed out on Caufield as well

meh, they reached the finals that way


mind you it was a problem vs tampa
- deadpoulet

Can we at least agree, while fun, last year is the exception of a team...not the rule?

What if that happens and your first line sucks but you've got a sweet ass checking line that is stuck on the missed change?
- Takemedrunkimhome

Unfortunately unless something happens we still have a 1st line two 3rds and a 4th
We may or may not have some talent in the pipeline and I think that maybe next year we are in a better position with available UFAs and in-house talent.
Dvorak fills a hole and didn't cost a whole lot ~15th pick so it's a wash.
I would have preferred to keep KK but it is what it is

Did Dvorak play on a line with powerhorse in London?

Can we at least agree, while fun, last year is the exception of a team...not the rule?
- Takemedrunkimhome

I guess.

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher worked out fine during the regular season. But once they put Lehkonen there instead of Tatar it was a pure checking line.

Unless you think it's a good idea to play Suzuki and Caufield vs the others teams top line, I don't think my idea is that bad.

Neither does most of the NHL these days.
- Gramps28

Babcock had a good line back when teams had fighters about his fourth line and preferring guys who could play hockey or something.

As an aside...saw your comment about fantasy football QBs...target those with rushing upside even if they're mediocre in real life. Fantasy is not a great reflection of real life and I expect big seasons from both Stafford and Herbert...but a bigger fantasy year from Kyler Murray

I guess.

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher worked out fine during the regular season. But once they put Lehkonen there instead of Tatar it was a pure checking line.

Unless you think it's a good idea to play Suzuki and Caufield vs the others teams top line, I don't think my idea is that bad.
- deadpoulet

Therefore they aren't the first line

Unfortunately unless something happens we still have a 1st line two 3rds and a 4th
We may or may not have some talent in the pipeline and I think that maybe next year we are in a better position with available UFAs and in-house talent.
Dvorak fills a hole and didn't cost a whole lot ~15th pick so it's a wash.
I would have preferred to keep KK but it is what it is
- braidan

As I agreed with you prior to this trade...I'd have preferred to just go with what we had and do a reset...but here we are

Did Dvorak play on a line with powerhorse in London?
- AGalchenyuk27

Marner. Domi...yes

Babcock had a good line back when teams had fighters about his fourth line and preferring guys who could play hockey or something.

As an aside...saw your comment about fantasy football QBs...target those with rushing upside even if they're mediocre in real life. Fantasy is not a great reflection of real life and I expect big seasons from both Stafford and Herbert...but a bigger fantasy year from Kyler Murray
- Takemedrunkimhome

Lamar Jackson is my QB of choice in that regard. Someone nabbed him before i did. QBs were going early and often in that mock.

I guess.

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher worked out fine during the regular season. But once they put Lehkonen there instead of Tatar it was a pure checking line.

Unless you think it's a good idea to play Suzuki and Caufield vs the others teams top line, I don't think my idea is that bad.
- deadpoulet

imo, Habs don't have the talent to play line vs line and go all in, they have to play defense. close checking game, let your goalie make the saves and hope your PP gives you a goal here and there.

I guess.

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher worked out fine during the regular season. But once they put Lehkonen there instead of Tatar it was a pure checking line.

Unless you think it's a good idea to play Suzuki and Caufield vs the others teams top line, I don't think my idea is that bad.
- deadpoulet

I think people will realize this season how good Danault was defensively and you can't just replicate that...hopefully you can score enough more than him to balance it...but with Danault...sure have a checking line. No Danault...start scoring