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bigmacdaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 5 @ 10:30 AM ET
Perhaps it was a "(frank) You" back after a perceived "(frank) You" from the Habs organization (benching, likely contract offer, other things - he was not coming back, at least, not long-term)...

Not defending the $20 or the "(frank) you", but I get it.

- Mashadar


Well it worked out well-- Dvorak at a little over 4... thank you very much----and buddy your 21--- the organization owes you nothing----
TheInformer697041
Joined: 07.27.2021

Sep 5 @ 10:30 AM ET
it sucks, I liked the kid and I'm sure he'll do well, I just don't wanna see him have success in a damn Canes jersey lolll
- Pat1993



Moi j’ai juste hâte de voir ça….

Bergevin, il me fait juste chier…

Et lâches-nous avec les « Ils ont fait la Finale… »

Prend la moyenne des 10 dernières années….
bigmacdaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 5 @ 10:30 AM ET

- Gramps28


Glad you agree--- now go back to your team dummy
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 5 @ 10:31 AM ET
If his stats are meh?? those 5 goals from KK should blow you away ahha
- bigmacdaddy



I think among the ads in this thread there should be a permanent one that says "Jesperi Kotkaniemi is 21 years old", just as a reminder.
TheInformer697041
Joined: 07.27.2021

Sep 5 @ 10:32 AM ET
putting the blame on him for the bad decisions but discrediting his successes by saying it was just luck isn't a very objective way of seeing things, but hey, you do you booboo.
- Pat1993


You forgot great goaltending….
bigmacdaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 5 @ 10:33 AM ET
He took a $6.1m contract. I don't blame him one bit
- Takemedrunkimhome


Me neither see ya--- not one GM in the league would pay him more than 3,5 except that petty organization----


They have money to pay a 5 goal scorer but not their all star goaltender or top 10 defensemen--- yup they are brilliant==== Carolina is awesome
Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

Sep 5 @ 10:37 AM ET
KK was about to be that 2 C


you forget that

- deadpoulet
not bc anyone had any real confidence in him...so lets be clear..he was at the time the best option.....Bergy probably didn't want to overpay for a better option...and maybe there's a slight overpay when you look at the deal TODAY.....but long term I think the HAbs dodged a bullet here....KK has not developed at the pace we thought he would...and the staff obviously did not have confidence in him as they benched him last 2 games of SC finals....again..I'm no Bergy fan club member....but this is Eggs Benedict vs scrambled eggs.....
bigmacdaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 5 @ 10:37 AM ET
I like your enthusiasm about Dvorak and I hope you're right, I haven't seen him play a whole lot but his stats are very okay-ish, and a lot of folks in here are basically saying he sucks lol
- Pat1993



Up to last week KK sucks--- now that he is gone --he is the second coming of McDavid-- if this was any other team besides Montreal ---this would not be a topic of conversation---
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 5 @ 10:41 AM ET
Me neither see ya--- not one GM in the league would pay him more than 3,5 except that petty organization----


They have money to pay a 5 goal scorer but not their all star goaltender or top 10 defensemen--- yup they are brilliant==== Carolina is awesome

- bigmacdaddy


Oh yeah that brilliant 25 year old goaltender with poopty AHL numbers and 30 games of NHL experience. Definitely pay that guy.

And they didn't have $9 million for Hamilton if they wanted to dress an actual team. So they took care of what they needed to and had about $7.5 million left over.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 5 @ 10:42 AM ET
What a colossal screw up

Kotkaniemi is only 21 years old!! He’ll thrive in Carolina. Dvorak is a plug

And somehow the Habs are also downgrading their first round pick from potential lottery to late 20s

Arizona’s GM absolutely OWNED Bergevin here
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 5 @ 10:43 AM ET
Moi j’ai juste hâte de voir ça….

Bergevin, il me fait juste chier…

Et lâches-nous avec les « Ils ont fait la Finale… »

Prend la moyenne des 10 dernières années….

- TheInformer697041



les cinq dernières années ont été un peu plus difficiles, et ça été souvent un roller-coaster, mais je suis capable d'apprécier ce qu'ils viennent d'accomplir dans les séries, c'était des criss de beaux moments. 2014 a quand même été le fun aussi. c'est pas parfait mais si tu regardes à travers la ligue je trouve que c'est exagéré en tabarnak de dire qu'il est tout simplement "pas fait pour la job".

anyways, j'ai hâte que Bergevin soit congédié ou qu'il prenne sa retraite, pendant un mois ou deux après ça on va dire comment le nouveau DG yest beau pi yest fin, et là tout le monde va recommencer à chialer comme quoi que c'est un osti d'incompétent. ahh, la passion des fans du CH, de toute beauté lolll...
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 5 @ 10:44 AM ET
You forgot great goaltending….
- TheInformer697041



of course, the game is played on the ice, but that wasn't the point.
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Sep 5 @ 10:45 AM ET
Oh yeah that brilliant 25 year old goaltender with poopty AHL numbers and 30 games of NHL experience. Definitely pay that guy.

And they didn't have $9 million for Hamilton if they wanted to dress an actual team. So they took care of what they needed to and had about $7.5 million left over.

- BINGO!

After graduating from the OHL in 2016, Nedeljkovic spent three seasons developing as a pro player, reaching his peak in 2018-19 when he backstopped the Charlotte Checkers to a Calder Cup championship and earned the Baz Bastian Memorial Trophy for best goalie in the AHL along the way.

Explain?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 5 @ 10:56 AM ET
After graduating from the OHL in 2016, Nedeljkovic spent three seasons developing as a pro player, reaching his peak in 2018-19 when he backstopped the Charlotte Checkers to a Calder Cup championship and earned the Baz Bastian Memorial Trophy for best goalie in the AHL along the way.

Explain?

- AGalchenyuk27


He won that based on wins with a stacked team. His individual numbers that season were unspectacular. Dude had the 13th best save percentage, tied with Eddie Pasquale.

He posted a .916 save percentage that year. His best ever in the AHL.
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Sep 5 @ 11:03 AM ET
Typically when you compare a 21 year old and a 25 year old, you anticipate more development from the 21 year old, let alone their "pedigree".
- Takemedrunkimhome


Generally speaking yes but the player does not want to be there and was not properly developed, so how he develops after the fact is out the window, also I am not sure if KK will become a Galchenyuk sort of player so time will tell.
hunglikeapuck
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Punta Cana
Joined: 07.14.2009

Sep 5 @ 11:14 AM ET
So Montreal actually got better and if either team finishes with a top ten pick Montreal gets to keep the better pick? It was cute watching KK learn to skate, slipping and falling around like Bambi, but I can live with it.
TheInformer697041
Joined: 07.27.2021

Sep 5 @ 11:21 AM ET
les cinq dernières années ont été un peu plus difficiles, et ça été souvent un roller-coaster, mais je suis capable d'apprécier ce qu'ils viennent d'accomplir dans les séries, c'était des criss de beaux moments. 2014 a quand même été le fun aussi. c'est pas parfait mais si tu regardes à travers la ligue je trouve que c'est exagéré en tabarnak de dire qu'il est tout simplement "pas fait pour la job".

anyways, j'ai hâte que Bergevin soit congédié ou qu'il prenne sa retraite, pendant un mois ou deux après ça on va dire comment le nouveau DG yest beau pi yest fin, et là tout le monde va recommencer à chialer comme quoi que c'est un osti d'incompétent. ahh, la passion des fans du CH, de toute beauté lolll...

- Pat1993


C’est juste son attitude qui me fait chier…

À Montréal, on se pense des Kings mais en réalité, on a un club assez ordinaire merci…. On a fait la finale l’an passé mais on est même pas sûr de faire les Séries cette année…

C’est la même scrap depuis les 25 dernières années…

Je vais te laisser à tes savantes analyses…. LOL…


AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Sep 5 @ 11:25 AM ET
The Canes are backpedaling faster than mr peanut on his tricycle
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 5 @ 11:31 AM ET
So Montreal actually got better and if either team finishes with a top ten pick Montreal gets to keep the better pick? It was cute watching KK learn to skate, slipping and falling around like Bambi, but I can live with it.
- hunglikeapuck

voilà. bottom line, Habs are a better team today than they were yesterday.
a few years from now, who knows?
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Sep 5 @ 11:32 AM ET
voilà. bottom line, Habs are a better team today than they were Yesterday.
a few years from now, who knows?

- fidopro


Many things can change in a few years so here is hoping we make the playoffs next season. Just hoping our D stands up well
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Sep 5 @ 11:35 AM ET
Yesterday @ 6:00 PM ET
hey! cannot blame him. I would have done the same thing.
- fidopro


We all would have done to be fair. If there’s someone to blame it’s the Montreal organization and no one else.
this Dvorak trade is a steal for the HABS....damn right they are a better team today...and damn right they need to look internally to see why they have had such a hard me developing young talent....but today we celebrate MB....he got us a game changer C for the next year!.#gohabsgo!

- Hockey Pucker



WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Sep 5 @ 11:41 AM ET
Hand are better today with Dvorak. Time will tell if KK is the better player
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 5 @ 12:20 PM ET
and in other news, kk, don't bullpoop me.
don't tell me it is hard to leave Mtl. it was your choice. you signed the offersheet. I don't blame you, I would have done the same, but don't bs me. we already have Molson and MB to do that.
goodbye and good luck
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 5 @ 12:25 PM ET
and in other news, kk, don't bullpoop me.
don't tell me it is hard to leave Mtl. it was your choice. you signed the offersheet. I don't blame you, I would have done the same, but don't bs me. we already have Molson and MB to do that.
goodbye and good luck

- fidopro

Both can be true
J-P
Location: goo.gl/wzUUGe
Joined: 01.21.2007

Sep 5 @ 12:27 PM ET
As long as their player development sucks Bergevin won’t commit long term @ a cheaper AAV and you absolutely need to do that in cap world. Look at Dvorak, Chayka gambled on a 6yr term and it paid off.

There are players (young and old) that do well in the regular season but then poop the bed in the playoffs. KK had a crappy season but showed up when it mattered. At 21 I wouldn’t bet against him.
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