Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY Joined: 06.21.2008
Sep 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
I can somewhat agree, but for contracts that are in the back half and overpaid its a bit to easy to eat the salary and have the Dr sign off on it. Boychuck came back and played in the Poffs, but then his eye injury was suddenly too bad to continue? Add to it that Lou has history of using this in the past i think the fans have a right to be skeptical. I think some of the litmus paper test is if the team is better off by having the player on the LTIR than if the player was healthy and in the line up. Lous moves seems to lean towards the being better off having the player on the LTIR. - Putty
Boychuk is done. Gone. Finite. Sayanora. Auf viedisen. Just because the Bolts do it with players like Seabrook and Kuch doesn’t mean all teams do it. Boychuk’s eye is (frank)ed, he’s not magically returning.
I can somewhat agree, but for contracts that are in the back half and overpaid its a bit to easy to eat the salary and have the Dr sign off on it. Boychuck came back and played in the Poffs, but then his eye injury was suddenly too bad to continue? Add to it that Lou has history of using this in the past i think the fans have a right to be skeptical. I think some of the litmus paper test is if the team is better off by having the player on the LTIR than if the player was healthy and in the line up. Lous moves seems to lean towards the being better off having the player on the LTIR. - Putty
Not sure he qualified as "coming back for the playoffs" as he only played less than half of one game.
It probably didn't help having a bad eye injury and then having some replacement-level poopbag defenseman throw his shoulder into your skull
Is everyone just going to piss and moan about every single player that gets put on LTIR until the end of time now? jesus christ
I only consider it circumvention if the LTIR is used as "free" cap space. Now if the Islanders drop salary before the season starts then I don't see a problem. Either way the fancy loophole needs to be fixed next CBA or they might as well drop the salary cap all together. - Glak18
Did you have an issue when Chris Pronger was on LTIR for a decade and you used his money every year?
There is a big difference between a player who is actually injured and unable to play.. FOREVER like Boychuk or Pronger being on LTIR.. and a team using LTIR to circumvent the cap.
Not sure he qualified as "coming back for the playoffs" as he only played less than half of one game.
It probably didn't help having a bad eye injury and then having some replacement-level poopbag defenseman throw his shoulder into your skull
Is everyone just going to piss and moan about every single player that gets put on LTIR until the end of time now? jesus christ - eichiefs9
lets look at it a different way, Can anyone tell me how many players have retired on the LTIR under Lou vs any other GM? Lupul, Robidas, Horton, Boychuk, lee? Hey my team has Klefbom on LTIR so i get that there are legit players that belong on it. It just seems there is a high correlation to why older player get injured under Lou. Add last years rabbit out of a hat trick to get the space when barzal is due was good timing i guess?????
lets look at it a different way, Can anyone tell me how many players have retired on the LTIR under Lou vs any other GM? Lupul, Robidas, Horton, Boychuk, lee? Hey my team has Klefbom on LTIR so i get that there are legit players that belong on it. It just seems there is a high correlation to why older player get injured under Lou. Add last years rabbit out of a hat trick to get the space when barzal is due was good timing i guess????? - Putty
lets look at it a different way, Can anyone tell me how many players have retired on the LTIR under Lou vs any other GM? Lupul, Robidas, Horton, Boychuk, lee? Hey my team has Klefbom on LTIR so i get that there are legit players that belong on it. It just seems there is a high correlation to why older player get injured under Lou. Add last years rabbit out of a hat trick to get the space when barzal is due was good timing i guess????? - Putty
lets look at it a different way, Can anyone tell me how many players have retired on the LTIR under Lou vs any other GM? Lupul, Robidas, Horton, Boychuk, lee? Hey my team has Klefbom on LTIR so i get that there are legit players that belong on it. It just seems there is a high correlation to why older player get injured under Lou. Add last years rabbit out of a hat trick to get the space when barzal is due was good timing i guess????? - Putty
Yes, the correlation is that Lou traditionally prefers older veterans to younger players and that older players tend to get hurt a lot more
Van has 10M cap space. Hughes is worth $5M. Wild need a center. Wild offer sheet Pettersson $9M. How about that? - Minnyhock
10M is based on a 24 man roster, with LTIR quite a bit of extra cash available for both players in Van. Only way they lose EP is if a team offer sheets in the four 1st round pick range...even then, Canucks could still match if they wanted to but probably shouldn't.
10M is based on a 24 man roster, with LTIR quite a bit of extra cash available for both players in Van. Only way they lose EP is if a team offer sheets in the four 1st round pick range...even then, Canucks could still match if they wanted to but probably shouldn't. - CoolerHeads
That’s what I figure, 4 1st round picks. High price. But then they could keep all their best prospects , trade Greenway next year and Zuccarello the next. I like that better than all the risk you buy with Eichel.
I wouldn't call this blatantly abusing loopholes using LTIR. His career is over, he's injured, and he's not going to retire and just give up the $4M the Islanders owe him for this season. This isn't even remotely close to "circumventing" anything. - eichiefs9
Nor should he. It's not against the current rules of the CBA either. That won't stop stupid piss flap people from being (frank)ing stupid piss flap people though.
lets look at it a different way, Can anyone tell me how many players have retired on the LTIR under Lou vs any other GM? Lupul, Robidas, Horton, Boychuk, lee? Hey my team has Klefbom on LTIR so i get that there are legit players that belong on it. It just seems there is a high correlation to why older player get injured under Lou. Add last years rabbit out of a hat trick to get the space when barzal is due was good timing i guess????? - Putty
jesus christ 
