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rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Sep 1 @ 8:55 PM ET
Still kinda waiting for…a still 20 year old to show us something?

Tough crowd.

- StLBravesFan

Easier than usual they gave him more than one shift. The jump from Pee Wee to NHL isn't that big.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Sep 1 @ 8:57 PM ET
Just being honest.

Toews and Kane showed us a lot in their 1st year as pros.

- BetweenTheDots

Toews spent the year after his draft at UND, Kane is a wing, and Dach had yet to have a full, normal season in the NHL.

BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 1 @ 9:55 PM ET
Toews spent the year after his draft at UND, Kane is a wing, and Dach had yet to have a full, normal season in the NHL.
- Ogilthorpe2


That's why i said still kind of waiting for Dach to show us something?

I guess people misinterpret it meaning he's a bust. Didn't say that. That's Peters dept using logic.

Or i guess having some expectations of the #3 pick overall is wrong in some way?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 1 @ 10:14 PM ET
Maybe
But one word causes another GM to stir.
Potential
Not Strome although both were early picks. But Drouin- yes

- jhawk59

Here is another one that causes GMs to stir in the other direction. Right or wrong, the perception is he quit on 2 teams.

Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 1 @ 10:17 PM ET
You're correct. I inhaled too many paint fumes.
- mohel

Yeah, its a bit of a pet peeve oF mine. CF has the best up to date info. on cap hits. The numbers are right there but people still start the "off the books" train.





mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Sep 1 @ 10:28 PM ET
Yeah, its a bit of a pet peeve oF mine. CF has the best up to date info. on cap hits. The numbers are right there but people still start the "off the books" train.
- Elbows15


Yep. I was on my phone and looked at the wrong column.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Sep 1 @ 10:41 PM ET
Yep. I was on my phone and looked at the wrong column.
- mohel

The old, I was on my phone excuse. 🤥
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Sep 1 @ 10:46 PM ET
Yep. I was on my phone and looked at the wrong column.
- mohel


It's hard to navigate with hooves.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Sep 1 @ 10:56 PM ET
That's why i said still kind of waiting for Dach to show us something?

I guess people misinterpret it meaning he's a bust. Didn't say that. That's Peters dept using logic.

Or i guess having some expectations of the #3 pick overall is wrong in some way?

- BetweenTheDots

I've been saying for over a month, in three years he'll still be 23. It's ridiculous to expect a huge jump out of him this year but nice if it happens. Strome was a #3 pick if you are evaluating expectations for the pick.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 1 @ 11:04 PM ET
Toews spent the year after his draft at UND, Kane is a wing, and Dach had yet to have a full, normal season in the NHL.
- Ogilthorpe2


Yes, and both the Blackhawks and Dach knew it was size, defensive end persistence, skill, and smarts were what he was arriving with.
That he needed to improve his shot strength, and continue improve how he uses his skating as an advantage, not a detriment.

There is no denying what scouts saw in Jonathan Drouin and Dylan Strome at the third overall picks two drafts apart.

Remember who their centres were -> MacKinnon and McDavid.

Did that blind scouts to their potential without the generational type player as a linemate?
One thinks certain-Junior scorers are just that and the majority of them always seems more comfortable after scoring, and less relaxed chasing pucks, players, and defensive responsibilities.

The 26 year old Drouin has more time to "develop," but that $ 5.5 milestone is already attached to is career.
Dylan Strome's weight is at $3 million. He may surprise everyone before his chances dry up.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Sep 1 @ 11:15 PM ET
It's hard to navigate with hooves.
- I Am The Breadman


This guy gets it.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Sep 1 @ 11:18 PM ET
The old, I was on my phone excuse. 🤥
- paulr


Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Sep 2 @ 12:58 AM ET
Yep. I was on my phone and looked at the wrong column.
- mohel


Stop it. We all know you are not allowed to use a phone.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Sep 2 @ 8:59 AM ET
Stop it. We all know you are not allowed to use a phone.
- Chunk


This is incorrect. It is knives and forks I am not allowed to use.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Sep 2 @ 9:22 AM ET
This is incorrect. It is knives and forks I am not allowed to use.
- mohel


paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Sep 2 @ 9:51 AM ET

- I Am The Breadman


Yet he still plays with his Toobin. 🙄
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Sep 2 @ 10:11 AM ET
Yet he still plays with his Toobin. 🙄
- paulr


I'm still confused by a mohel without knife access ...
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Sep 2 @ 10:18 AM ET
I'm still confused by a mohel without knife access ...
- I Am The Breadman





paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Sep 2 @ 10:19 AM ET
I'm still confused by a mohel without knife access ...
- I Am The Breadman

Think about it, if you’re Mo’s mother do you want him having knife access while he’s playing with his Toobin?
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Sep 2 @ 10:22 AM ET
Might want to look at CapFriendly for next season. Hawks only have 22M to sign 11 players which includes 2 goalies. Gonna be tough to keep Kubalik. Return to cap hell and without any success to mitigate it.
- Elbows15



shh......cap hell doesn't exist after Uncle Dale's departure.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Sep 2 @ 10:34 AM ET
Yeah, its a bit of a pet peeve oF mine. CF has the best up to date info. on cap hits. The numbers are right there but people still start the "off the books" train.
- Elbows15


22.875 of space

Need 2 goalies

RFAs as of TODAY you would think they'd have interest in resigning
-Kubalik
-Dach
-Kalynuk
-Kurashev

RFAs/UFAs as of today you would think they'd kick to the curb
-DeHaan
-Strome
-Carpenter

UNDECIDED
-Nylander
-C Jones
-Gaudette

Think a LOT of this has to do with the development of Mitchell and Beaudin down in the "A" and IF the organization feels they are ready to step in. If so, C Jones and/or Kalynuk could be gone IF they have better years and are deemed too expensive based on what they have to sign Kubalik or Dach for.

IDeally they need to find a home for Connolly. People want to female dog about Seth Jones trade, the acquisition of Connolly and that prolonged cap hit makes ZERO sense.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Sep 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
Connolly another 1st round pick, Bowman and/or his hockey ops department fell in love with at some point and took another flier on.

This pattern is getting old and rarely works out well for the Hawks.

Bowman must have the "another man's trash is another man's treasure" framed in his office at 1901 w madison..........
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 2 @ 10:40 AM ET
The Blackhawks do have some cap restraints coming. I was thinking since 21 million will be coming off the books after 2 years, why couldn't they sign say any RFA to a one year contract then have them sign one long term deal for example, Kubs signs a 1 year deal at 4 mill, then a 4 or 5 year deal for $6 mil per? I think the Leafs did something like that with Nylander but paid him more the 1 year then less over the so many years
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Sep 2 @ 10:57 AM ET
The Blackhawks do have some cap restraints coming. I was thinking since 21 million will be coming off the books after 2 years, why couldn't they sign say any RFA to a one year contract then have them sign one long term deal for example, Kubs signs a 1 year deal at 4 mill, then a 4 or 5 year deal for $6 mil per? I think the Leafs did something like that with Nylander but paid him more the 1 year then less over the so many years
- BetweenTheDots


No idea....

1. I think Bowman had a very good summer in the short term to "win now"..if a few things hit...this team will make the playoffs and they have enough horses and a goalie with skins on the wall, to be a very TOUGH out in a 7 game series.

2. I think it's VERY fair to question his ability to work with a salary cap, his hard on that his hockey ops department has for their hell bent tunnel vision of going after 1st round picks who have flamed out in other organizations, and his organization's inability to properly develop younger players.....either they are rushed or they never sniff the potential.....For every DeBrincat as of late the long list of 1sts that are no longer here exceed the hits. Out of the 24 guys listed on the hawks cap friendly roster......4 were drafted by the Hawks......4.

I think he's been excellent at signing European UFAs and his wisely walked from a few when the price tag was out of his budget...Suter, Niemi, and Panarin.

boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Sep 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
News from Buffalo. Casey Middelstadt signs for 3 years at 2.5M. 155 career games, 27G, 34A = 61 total points

Dach - 82 career games 10G, 23A = 33 points. Depending on the year he has, I'm thinking Dach's extension will be at least 3M for 3 years.
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