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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 31 @ 1:41 PM ET
Habs and Cowboys
- Canada Cup


Well the Habs part is obvious, born in Montreal bla bla bla.

The only reason I cheer for the Cowboys is that they were my team in Madden '95 on the super nintendo. So when I was pressed to "pick a team" I went with them.

And I ain't the kind of guy who changes allegiances.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 31 @ 1:43 PM ET
IMHO, there's just to much overthinking going on.

If AM, MM, and WN (all of them) make a jump and can figure out how to increase the "whatever you want to all it" in the playoffs AND if they get some 'tending then this team will do well in any match up.

Playoffs build hero's .....time to put up or shut up.

- The Law


Double true
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
Well the Habs part is obvious, born in Montreal bla bla bla.

The only reason I cheer for the Cowboys is that they were my team in Madden '95 on the super nintendo. So when I was pressed to "pick a team" I went with them.

And I ain't the kind of guy who changes allegiances.

- Scabeh


I like the Ravens. How can you not cheer for a football team named for a poem?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Aug 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
Topic change - backyard landscaping materials.

Changing out some 20 yr old interlocking brick and going with something different for a 10' x 20' patio. Was all in on cedar or composite decking but now I'm leaning towards stamped or some form of concrete or stone.

Any good advice/experience out there?
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Aug 31 @ 1:48 PM ET
Which one of his linemates had the 40 goal season. 🤔

Chris Johnston December 2016 "You're not likely to see Matthews and Marner continue playing together. The #leafs believe each rookie can drive a line on his own."

It's 2021. They each make ridiculous money, let's see it. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

Do you think Bozak was the reason that line was better than Matthews' line? Did you see all the tap-ins JT had from going to the net on utterly ridiculous Marner passes?

- Zezel


I think that it was a long time ago and Mitch was a teenager. I was responding to the idea that Tavares only got 47 goals because he played with Mitch (even though it only equated to a 4 point increase from the previous season when he played with beer cans), and therefore whoever Mitch played with the season before must have had ridiculous years.

I'm trying to play along with the logic going here but ultimately my opinion is that Matthews with a plug winger is going to be more fruitful than Marner with a plug centre and that's the difference between them. It's just my opinion.

I've said a number of times my end goal would be 1 11 million dollar player per line, play the top 3 lines close to equal and let the big guns get their extra minutes on the PP. The debate is far closer to being settled at that point. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 31 @ 1:49 PM ET
IMHO, there's just to much overthinking going on.

If AM, MM, and WN (all of them) make a jump and can figure out how to increase the "whatever you want to all it" in the playoffs AND if they get some 'tending then this team will do well in any match up.

Playoffs build hero's .....time to put up or shut up.

- The Law


Done in one.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 31 @ 1:50 PM ET
He was just named to the first All Star team and finished fourth in scoring. He and Matthews playing poorly in the playoffs. That needs to be addressed. If it can’t be, he needs to be moved. A bunch of people here have decided he can’t and seem angry. I said seem.

I see two issues before getting to he’s a playoff flop.

1. Cutdown regular season ice time for him and Matthews. They were among league leaders as I recall. One theory about Kamph and other adds is to build a real shut down third line. Matthews’ took a lot of D zone starts and wracked up too many minutes which took a toll (along with bad wrist) by playoffs.

2. What works in regular season, etc. They were too predictable, too stubborn to change. Maybe splitting them up and changing the mode might work. Less pretty play in regular season but move to a playoff style. Too lazy to do up lines.

- Canada Cup


I can't see Marner being moved, Leafs would be hard pressed to get equal value back. The trade suggestions to Buffalo are baloney. Marner would likely go first overall in many drafts, he just happend to be drafted the same year as McDavid and Eichel. Just imagine that the idiots in Arizona drafted Dylan Strome ahead of Marner.

I don't like the suggestion that playoff rules should not be the same as the regular season rules. If it's a cross-check or a slew-foot in the playoffs do your job and make the call. I don't give a (frank) if its a close game in the playoffs. The coach has a big non-cheerleader role in playoff hockey IMO, and Keefe has been schooled by both Torts and Ducharme. Taking every advantage possible is important and last line change at home is important.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 31 @ 1:50 PM ET
In the same pool? How the (frank) did you pull that off?!
- joel878


We do auction drafts so I just paid 68 for Christian and 50 for zeke
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 31 @ 1:51 PM ET
You expect Zeke to bounce back this year?

As a Cowboys fan, I sure hope so. A healthy Dak will go a long way too.... but the defense needs to be WAY better for them to stand a chance even in a very weak division.

- Scabeh


He better! Mcaffrey can carry the team though
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Aug 31 @ 1:52 PM ET
Topic change - backyard landscaping materials.

Changing out some 20 yr old interlocking brick and going with something different for a 10' x 20' patio. Was all in on cedar or composite decking but now I'm leaning towards stamped or some form of concrete or stone.

Any good advice/experience out there?

- The Law


Matter of preference probably, it's all equally bananas money wise nowadays. Concrete will stand the test of time better but even composite will probably outlive you.

Stamped can be super slippery in the winter, cedar will last forever but it withers and looks like poop if you don't maintain it. You can do some crazy stuff with composite as far as inlay designs and things of the like go but install will double...

I would probably go concrete and even do exposed, but I think that look is starting to be considered dated so... 🤷🏻‍♂️
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 31 @ 1:57 PM ET
Topic change - backyard landscaping materials.

Changing out some 20 yr old interlocking brick and going with something different for a 10' x 20' patio. Was all in on cedar or composite decking but now I'm leaning towards stamped or some form of concrete or stone.

Any good advice/experience out there?

- The Law


I like the composite for a deck and the stone surrounding patio. I’d stay away from stamped concrete. We had it and it lifted in some areas. Might not be a problem for you because we had a mix of old and new concrete.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 31 @ 2:01 PM ET
While I agree it shouldn't be a penalty. For me, the salary cap is the biggest load of baloney there is. No team suffers more than the Leafs because of the cap. And the reason for the cap? So poop teams like Arizona and their 28 fans can have hockey and get financial support from the NHL and wealthy teams when they file for Chapter 11
- winsix


I was a fan of this thinking, but I have friends who like smaller market teams and I see their frustration at basically having been a feeder team for the haves of the league. Draft a guy, train him, develop him, love him as a player and watch him leave before his prime to a team that can afford to keep him.

The salary cap, in my opinion, sucks when you're a "have" team, but it is the healthiest and best thing for the league as a whole. I despise MLB and their luxury tax system. The Dodgers are paying out $267M. Cleveland is at $49M. That imbalance is preposterous. It isn't solved by simply changing the salary floor, either. It's resolved by balancing what can be spent at the top-end and then increasing the floor to ensure that redistributed profits are directed to the team and not to the owner's pockets.

The Jays, for reference, are 11th at $151M (noting that $33M is retained or buried).

People love to talk about how Rogers is rich and can spend the money, but that's not how that works. They have a responsibility to direct baseball revenue into baseball, and keep their telecommunications revenue separate.

So bringing that back from my tailspin - fans in Edmonton, Ottawa, Winnipeg and Calgary all deserve good hockey - but they need more help than some of the other markets with larger media and advertising opportunities.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 31 @ 2:08 PM ET
I like the composite for a deck and the stone surrounding patio. I’d stay away from stamped concrete. We had it and it lifted in some areas. Might not be a problem for you because we had a mix of old and new concrete.
- Canada Cup


To add to this and what Joel said - we explored a concrete pad this year (22 x 18). We have a significant grade in our backyard that is almost 2.5ft from the top of that 18ft span to the bottom. The estimate was about $6500. That's not bad at all. Once it's down, you can fancify it as you need with any type of patio stone or veneer, but really throw up a pavillion, some nice seating, a fire pit, a BBQ . . . the outdoor flooring becomes secondary.

If you're doing stamped concrete, it's more expensive, harder to maintain, and if they don't put the correct finish on it, it's slick in any type of inclement weather. We have a stamped concrete driveway. It's pretty when it's done - and fortunately ours was done with the correct material, so it's not that bad -- but even with that, it's still more slippery than the sidewalk. The nieghbour a few doors down does his own, and you can skate on it in your boots in light snow.

Personally I love composite, and if money were no object it would be my choice based on the look and duration of it. I have literally no experience with it other than admiring it from afar.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 31 @ 2:18 PM ET
when does the habs need to decide on kock yemmy?
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Aug 31 @ 2:22 PM ET
To add to this and what Joel said - we explored a concrete pad this year (22 x 18). We have a significant grade in our backyard that is almost 2.5ft from the top of that 18ft span to the bottom. The estimate was about $6500. That's not bad at all. Once it's down, you can fancify it as you need with any type of patio stone or veneer, but really throw up a pavillion, some nice seating, a fire pit, a BBQ . . . the outdoor flooring becomes secondary.

If you're doing stamped concrete, it's more expensive, harder to maintain, and if they don't put the correct finish on it, it's slick in any type of inclement weather. We have a stamped concrete driveway. It's pretty when it's done - and fortunately ours was done with the correct material, so it's not that bad -- but even with that, it's still more slippery than the sidewalk. The nieghbour a few doors down does his own, and you can skate on it in your boots in light snow.

Personally I love composite, and if money were no object it would be my choice based on the look and duration of it. I have literally no experience with it other than admiring it from afar.

- Monkeypunk


Composite can cost 40$ a square foot to do a deck or patio with... An 8' cedar deck board is close to 20$ right now... I don't even know what's more economical in the end.

There's no such thing as cheap anymore. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Concrete is the more durable option per square foot cost these days, even stamped I think you're considerably cheaper than most composites. It is damn slippery though.
Trevrrrgavo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 03.28.2013

Aug 31 @ 2:22 PM ET
I would enjoy these blogs much more if they had insight on the players. I can look up stats. But doesn’t look like anyone cares about the blog. Just continued nonsense from other comment sections. Bring on the season!!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 31 @ 2:23 PM ET
when does the habs need to decide on kock yemmy?
- senstroll


Saturday.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 31 @ 2:27 PM ET
Saturday.
- Scabeh



What do you think they're going to do, and what do you want them to do?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 31 @ 2:28 PM ET
Saturday.
- Scabeh


thanks

is it friday yet?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 31 @ 2:31 PM ET
What do you think they're going to do, and what do you want them to do?
- Monkeypunk


Well most reports have the Habs trying to trade for Dvorak (or other form of replacement for KK) with the assets they're getting from Carolina. If they succeed, they won't match and make said trade.

So I think that's their plan right now, or at least it's what sounds most likely.

Personally? I'd match the offer and try and get a long term extension with KK to tone down the AAV against a longer term. (Something along the lines of 4 years at 5M)

But I also believe in Kotkaniemi. I think he'll be more than worth it sooner than later.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Aug 31 @ 2:36 PM ET
Matter of preference probably, it's all equally bananas money wise nowadays. Concrete will stand the test of time better but even composite will probably outlive you.

Stamped can be super slippery in the winter, cedar will last forever but it withers and looks like poop if you don't maintain it. You can do some crazy stuff with composite as far as inlay designs and things of the like go but install will double...

I would probably go concrete and even do exposed, but I think that look is starting to be considered dated so... 🤷🏻‍♂️

- joel878


Thanks (all)

We're putting up a new cedar fence and I like the mixed materials look so I'm definitely leaning concrete/stone on the ground. Slippery is bad b/c I like bourbon, wine and beer and I could see a tub in the future.

I'm thinking a coloured concrete - dark grey or something - with maybe some gravel/crushed stone channels between.

Drainage could be a thing to plan for (deck > concrete) - although I'm considering just moving my downspouts into my neighbours yards.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 31 @ 2:43 PM ET
Well most reports have the Habs trying to trade for Dvorak (or other form of replacement for KK) with the assets they're getting from Carolina. If they succeed, they won't match and make said trade.

So I think that's their plan right now, or at least it's what sounds most likely.

Personally? I'd match the offer and try and get a long term extension with KK to tone down the AAV against a longer term. (Something along the lines of 4 years at 5M)

But I also believe in Kotkaniemi. I think he'll be more than worth it sooner than later.

- Scabeh


KK is going to be the richest 30 point center in the league.

(I know Montreal's hand has been forced here, and that you are paying for potential, but damn)

fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Aug 31 @ 2:44 PM ET
Well most reports have the Habs trying to trade for Dvorak (or other form of replacement for KK) with the assets they're getting from Carolina. If they succeed, they won't match and make said trade.

So I think that's their plan right now, or at least it's what sounds most likely.

Personally? I'd match the offer and try and get a long term extension with KK to tone down the AAV against a longer term. (Something along the lines of 4 years at 5M)

But I also believe in Kotkaniemi. I think he'll be more than worth it sooner than later.

- Scabeh


I'd take the picks and thank your lucky stars. Scratched at the beginning of the playoffs, scratched at the end. He wants out. This is a godsend for Montreal imo. He's not even close to worth 6.1. They should take the pics and take a swing at Jack Eichel.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 31 @ 2:44 PM ET
KK is going to be the richest 30 point center in the league.

(I know Montreal's hand has been forced here, and that you are paying for potential, but damn)

- Leafs43


It's not ideal, but none of that situation is.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Aug 31 @ 2:48 PM ET
Thanks (all)

We're putting up a new cedar fence and I like the mixed materials look so I'm definitely leaning concrete/stone on the ground. Slippery is bad b/c I like bourbon, wine and beer and I could see a tub in the future.

I'm thinking a coloured concrete - dark grey or something - with maybe some gravel/crushed stone channels between.

Drainage could be a thing to plan for (deck > concrete) - although I'm considering just moving my downspouts into my neighbours yards.

- The Law


Irregular flagstone.
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