* Kirby Dach, 66 (21, 45), Over
* Seth Jones, 53 (12, 41), Over (way over, has scored 50+ one time in his career)
* Jonathan Toews, 50 (20, 30), Even (highly suspect he even plays)
* Dylan Strome, 42 (17, 25), Even (way over, expect traded)
* Tyler Johnson, 36 (13, 23), Under (way under)
* Alex Nylander, 30, Even (over)
* Caleb Jones, 19, Even (over)
* Wyatt Kalynuk, 19, Under (way under if gets regular playing time)


Agreed on Dach. Jones expectation is ridiculous. Toews I won’t believe plays until he is actually on the ice. Strome should be gone with or without Toews. Nylander will be in Rockford at some point. Wyatt played well last year and deserves starting minutes and he will surprise many.

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- Ogilthorpe2

What? He was an all star game MVP, doesn’t that count for anything? Actually he was arguably the third best forward on three cup winning teams, that counts for something. He’s not a HOF type of player by any means, but he helped the team win. He wasn’t one of my favorite Hawks, but he did add value to the Hawks. TBH, he would look good on a line with Dach and Kane right about now.

What? He was an all star game MVP, doesn’t that count for anything? Actually he was arguably the third best forward on three cup winning teams, that counts for something. He’s not a HOF type of player by any means, but he helped the team win. He wasn’t one of my favorite Hawks, but he did add value to the Hawks. TBH, he would look good on a line with Dach and Kane right about now.
- Angotti

Sharp was damn good, imo, but I have him behind Kane, Hossa, and Toews.

What? He was an all star game MVP, doesn’t that count for anything? Actually he was arguably the third best forward on three cup winning teams, that counts for something. He’s not a HOF type of player by any means, but he helped the team win. He wasn’t one of my favorite Hawks, but he did add value to the Hawks. TBH, he would look good on a line with Dach and Kane right about now.
- Angotti

Third? Ahead of who? Toews. Kane or Hossa?

What? He was an all star game MVP, doesn’t that count for anything? Actually he was arguably the third best forward on three cup winning teams, that counts for something. He’s not a HOF type of player by any means, but he helped the team win. He wasn’t one of my favorite Hawks, but he did add value to the Hawks. TBH, he would look good on a line with Dach and Kane right about now.
- Angotti

He was good. He filled a role for a lot of seasons, and filled it well. Nice complimentary top 6 player, but not indispensable. Being able to fill in at 2C when asked was probably his biggest single contribution to the cup era.

As far as being an All-Star game MVP (Angotti’s comment, possible
- Ogilthorpe2[probably?] facetious) - so was John Scott, IIRC.

As far as being injury prone (a comment from yesterday, I think) - in 13 seasons after completing his AHL residency, he played in over 70 games 9 times, with another two being over 60. Not exactly too delicate for The Show.

He also scored 30 goals 4 times (altho not in any of the Cup seasons) and 20 goals another 4.

A quality player - probably 4th on the list of Cup-winning Blackhawk forwards - complementary, yes, but very valuable.

What? He was an all star game MVP, doesn’t that count for anything? Actually he was arguably the third best forward on three cup winning teams, that counts for something. He’s not a HOF type of player by any means, but he helped the team win. He wasn’t one of my favorite Hawks, but he did add value to the Hawks. TBH, he would look good on a line with Dach and Kane right about now.
- Angotti

Personally all i was doing was comparing where Sharp and Kubalik were at the same age, Since Peters loves Sharp so much. But I'm sure Peters was like oh yea Sharp at 24-25 yrs old he's a third line player, BUST

The numbers don't lie, Kubs has significantly outperformed Sharp at the same age.

Personally all i was doing was comparing where Sharp and Kubalik were at the same age, Since Peters loves Sharp so much. But I'm sure Peters was like oh yea Sharp at 24-25 yrs old he's a third line player, BUST

The numbers don't lie, Kubs has significantly outperformed Sharp at the same age.
- BetweenTheDots

Hopefully Kubalik plays as well as or outperforms Sharp. But hopefully he doesn’t go crazy this season or the Hawks may not be able to afford him.

And when Sharp went from 20 to 36 goals the next season, the Blackhawks drafted this kid who was to small to play in the NHL.

Sharp was damn good, imo, but I have him behind Kane, Hossa, and Toews.
- mohel

Yes, I was not counting centers, only forwards.

I was just curious but RH shots who played with Patrick Kane? They have scored over 30 goals 8 out of 14 years, damn.

Hawks re-sign Murphy for 4 years at $4.4 AAV. Great deal.

Hawks re-sign Murphy for 4 years at $4.4 AAV. Great deal.
- Theo Fox

Pilon

Hawks re-sign Murphy for 4 years at $4.4 AAV. Great deal.
- Theo Fox

NMC? A great deal a lot of people will come off the ledge. I suspect he got an extra year in his mind 4yrs vs. 3yrs. which made it average out for him. Says he wants to stay here.

Hawks re-sign Murphy for 4 years at $4.4 AAV. Great deal.
- Theo Fox

Agreed, quite the right side if Mitchell develops as planned or Kaylnuk continues to play on his off-side

Hawks re-sign Murphy for 4 years at $4.4 AAV. Great deal.
- Theo Fox

Capfriendly is slacking!

NMC? A great deal a lot of people will come off the ledge. I suspect he got an extra year in his mind 4yrs vs. 3yrs. which made it average out for him. Says he wants to stay here.
- rpeters01

Dots just got season tickets for that ledge for the next 5 years.

Hawks re-sign Murphy for 4 years at $4.4 AAV. Great deal.
- Theo Fox

I like it as well....but already saw Powers post a chart showing how Hawks likely overpaid in years 2-4....can't wait to get in another "he's not worth the contract" with the mathematical gods on here......

I was just curious but RH shots who played with Patrick Kane? They have scored over 30 goals 8 out of 14 years, damn.
- BetweenTheDots

If you have an above average shot and are a righty playing left wing.....you have a high probability of netting 30+ goals. Elite passing that opens up the lanes, and guys are cashing in on back door 1 timers and open space.

Hawks re-sign Murphy for 4 years at $4.4 AAV. Great deal.
- Theo Fox

I'm thinking I should comment on this deal but I'm not quite sure what to say.

I like it as well....but already saw Powers post a chart showing how Hawks likely overpaid in years 2-4....can't wait to get in another "he's not worth the contract" with the mathematical gods on here......
- SteveRain

I dumped that rag about 4 months ago. It's become unreadable. If he is the exact same defenseman he's been the last three years, he will be well worth his contract. He'll be about 33 when the contract is up. I have zero issues with this contract, and I can't see why anyone else would either (except Dots )

I'm thinking I should comment on this deal but I'm not quite sure what to say.
- DarthKane

I take issue with the timing of your post...

NMC? A great deal a lot of people will come off the ledge. I suspect he got an extra year in his mind 4yrs vs. 3yrs. which made it average out for him. Says he wants to stay here.
- rpeters01

No clauses mentioned in any article I've read and CapFriendly doesn't indicate one either (yet). It still needs to be confirmed though.

Hawks re-sign Murphy for 4 years at $4.4 AAV. Great deal.
- Theo Fox

It is. But I wonder what the medium term implications are for Mitchell? That's a lot of dollars and ice time tied up in SJones and Murphy on the right side for 5+ years.

I'm thinking I should comment on this deal but I'm not quite sure what to say.
- DarthKane

The correct answer IS:

Great job by Bowman
Great value at only a 800K raise where he likely could have sniffed well over 5+ aav in UFA
It's ONLY 4 years....so all the 100% stat based people who likely female dog that by year 2-4 he's overpaid by THIS.......can riddle me again the very few NHL players who actually are WORTH their deals the ENTIRE longevity.

Like anything.....people will find a reason to piss/moan about it.....hawks 3 very good defensemen locked up now for at least 3+ years.