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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 28 @ 11:15 AM ET
Isn't that the ideal situation for a rebuilding team?

They'll have complete flexibility moving forward as opposed to a team like the Sharks who have Karlsson, Burns, Kane and Vlassic under contract for four more years for a total of $33m, all of whom are on the wrong side of 30

- Hank Balling


I'd want some vets on decent deals. McCabe for example.

If you put together a long term plan in net last summer, Ullmark is on a reasonable multi-year.

This is all the fallout of not having a plan and just reacting day to day.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 28 @ 11:18 AM ET
But they want a 2nd team in Mississauga? Yeah it wouldn't be up to them at that point.

They already threatened to move the Bills. Believe me, this confidence in the Sabres not becoming the Quebec or Hamilton club is unfounded if they don't start making money yesterday.

- Jet Jaguar BD


That has been refuted by those in the room.
The Reporter's article that cited it was borderline reckless at best..so many factual errors.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Aug 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
Anybody know Bill's plans with regard go starters playing today. Teams are all over the board on it this year.
- IonSabres

McDermott said 1 series in the 1st quarter to possibly even coming out after the half.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
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Aug 28 @ 11:26 AM ET
That has been refuted by those in the room.
The Reporter's article that cited it was borderline reckless at best..so many factual errors.

- IonSabres

Yes, a tactic called saving face.

The owners are more concerned with family lifestyle than they are with hurting the people of Buffalo's feelings.

It's a business to them, plain and simple. And once Terry croaks, Kim will be even worse. She will either sell, sell, sell or up and relocate at least one of the teams.

Buffalo somehow gained population this past census, but I'd say it's more akin to suburban kids moving to the city than actual migration of people seeking out Buffalo as a place on the up.

Buffalo, as a city, is trying, but with dozens of larger cities hungry for a professional team, with it comes young money and a demand for professional sports. Buffalo may have the television viewers but it does not have the economic infrastructure that a lot of other metropolitan areas now have.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 28 @ 11:26 AM ET
Sabres aren't leaving Buffalo.
- Powerslave


Correct. This group is in Canada and will leave the Sabres in Buffalo. If COVID didn't hit and the border be closed for so long, I would think the sale would occur before year end.

The only other possible new owner (my speculation only) is Jeffrey Gundlach. A billionaire from Amherst who I believe recently bought a house in the city.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 28 @ 11:43 AM ET
I'd want some vets on decent deals. McCabe for example.

If you put together a long term plan in net last summer, Ullmark is on a reasonable multi-year.

This is all the fallout of not having a plan and just reacting day to day.

- Lunaion


I wanted McCabe as much as anyone but he was always going to Chicago if they wanted him. He's lived there for years
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
Yes, a tactic called saving face.

The owners are more concerned with family lifestyle than they are with hurting the people of Buffalo's feelings.

It's a business to them, plain and simple. And once Terry croaks, Kim will be even worse. She will either sell, sell, sell or up and relocate at least one of the teams.

Buffalo somehow gained population this past census, but I'd say it's more akin to suburban kids moving to the city than actual migration of people seeking out Buffalo as a place on the up.

Buffalo, as a city, is trying, but with dozens of larger cities hungry for a professional team, with it comes young money and a demand for professional sports. Buffalo may have the television viewers but it does not have the economic infrastructure that a lot of other metropolitan areas now have.

- Jet Jaguar BD


I agree with with the majority of your post, and it is certainly very possible they would sell, or move the Sabres franchise. They don't make money off the Sabres, I don't think anybody has except for an odd year here or there over the last 15sh years.

Bill's might be different their making a poop ton off them. Could it be more, absolutely friggin right, so the possibility is real. How probable moving is, is another question. And if they did move them, say goodbye to the Sabres as overcoming the backlash by fans after losing the Bills would be very difficult, at best.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
I wanted McCabe as much as anyone but he was always going to Chicago if they wanted him. He's lived there for years
- Hank Balling

and he is not worth 4 mil a year

missed 102 games in the last few seasons

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
I agree with with the majority of your post, and it is certainly very possible they would sell, or move the Sabres franchise. They don't make money off the Sabres, I don't think anybody has except for an odd year here or there over the last 15sh years.

Bill's might be different their making a poop ton off them. Could it be more, absolutely friggin right, so the possibility is real. How probable moving is, is another question. And if they did move them, say goodbye to the Sabres as overcoming the backlash by fans after losing the Bills would be very difficult, at best.

- IonSabres

both teams will be gone after Terry dies and the leases run out
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
both teams will be gone after Terry dies and the leases run out
- homiedclown


WNY native Kathy Hochul ponies up and the Bills get Terryworld. H5
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
spector had a nice piece on the losing captain today

this part should be noted

"As for the Bruins, they only have $1.089 million in cap space. Landing Eichel means moving out significant cap dollars to free up sufficient space for Eichel’s contract. Maybe Sweeney can convince the Sabres to pick up some of his salary but that seems unlikely."


https://www.spectorshocke...umor-mill-august-28-2021/
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
WNY native Kathy Hochul ponies up and the Bills get Terryworld. H5
- Hank Balling

seems like the kids prefer Florida over Western NY now that they are growing up

expect a massive Disney deal with new stadium for the bills when Terry checks out
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Aug 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
zero chance sabres let him play if he is their property
- homiedclown

He could just pull
An Ovi, and say go ahead and fine me, I’m going to play in the olympics. Mind you, that Ovi’s relationship was a bit better with the Caps at the time, but I don’t see how forcing him to not play in the Olympics would benefit anyone
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Aug 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
I agree with with the majority of your post, and it is certainly very possible they would sell, or move the Sabres franchise. They don't make money off the Sabres, I don't think anybody has except for an odd year here or there over the last 15sh years.

Bill's might be different their making a poop ton off them. Could it be more, absolutely friggin right, so the possibility is real. How probable moving is, is another question. And if they did move them, say goodbye to the Sabres as overcoming the backlash by fans after losing the Bills would be very difficult, at best.

- IonSabres

I think the best thing for the Bills might actually be to lose the Sabres. The Sabres have always been a fair-weather fanbase here in Buffalo - They were mostly successful until the Pegulas bought them, missing the playoffs only a handful of times since their inception. However, I fear this hole is dug too deep at this point. They have been hemorrhaging money for over 10 years now and it's only going to get worse in the near future.

Bills have always had a rabid fanbase and I think being in Orchard Park helped really solidify that. Hardcore beyond hardcore - We're a XXX Hardcore fanbase. Always a packed stadium, always selling gear, always high viewership despite the local blackouts from back in the day.

If I had to choose it's the Bills all day every day and especially on Sunday. I've only gone to one church in my life and it's the Buffalo Bills on Sunday.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Aug 28 @ 12:03 PM ET
spector had a nice piece on the losing captain today

this part should be noted

"As for the Bruins, they only have $1.089 million in cap space. Landing Eichel means moving out significant cap dollars to free up sufficient space for Eichel’s contract. Maybe Sweeney can convince the Sabres to pick up some of his salary but that seems unlikely."


https://www.spectorshocke...umor-mill-august-28-2021/

- homiedclown

They would have to give us Carlo, McAvoy, Smith, DeBrusk and a 1st if you ask me and that would deplete their d-corps. They can have Miller for the price of free but I see no scenario where either team benefits from an Eichel trade.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Aug 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
spector had a nice piece on the losing captain today

this part should be noted

"As for the Bruins, they only have $1.089 million in cap space. Landing Eichel means moving out significant cap dollars to free up sufficient space for Eichel’s contract. Maybe Sweeney can convince the Sabres to pick up some of his salary but that seems unlikely."


https://www.spectorshocke...umor-mill-august-28-2021/

- homiedclown

It’s a very valid point. This is consistent with most teams that may want to target him.
Do we want a massive salary dump?
Players involved could refuse to report In Buffalo.
I just don’t see a deal
Happening until the TDL or next off season
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Aug 28 @ 12:10 PM ET
They would have to give us Carlo, McAvoy, Smith, DeBrusk and a 1st if you ask me and that would deplete their d-corps. They can have Miller for the price of free but I see no scenario where either team benefits from an Eichel trade.
- Jet Jaguar BD

McAvoy is an absolute stud. I would do McAcoy, Debrusk, A level prospect, 2022 first
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 28 @ 12:12 PM ET
He could just pull
An Ovi, and say go ahead and fine me, I’m going to play in the olympics. Mind you, that Ovi’s relationship was a bit better with the Caps at the time, but I don’t see how forcing him to not play in the Olympics would benefit anyone

- lulags

if he is not playing regular season games for the sabres

zero chance he plays in Olympics
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
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Aug 28 @ 12:13 PM ET
McAvoy is an absolute stud. I would do McAcoy, Debrusk, A level prospect, 2022 first
- lulags

They still would need to dump cap on us I think but I'm all over that even without the prospect.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Aug 28 @ 12:13 PM ET
if he is not playing regular season games for the sabres

zero chance he plays in Olympics

- homiedclown

If he sits out the season, I agree 100%
He would have to play to even be considered
you would think?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 28 @ 12:13 PM ET
They would have to give us Carlo, McAvoy, Smith, DeBrusk and a 1st if you ask me and that would deplete their d-corps. They can have Miller for the price of free but I see no scenario where either team benefits from an Eichel trade.
- Jet Jaguar BD

I think it comes down to habs (overpay), ducks, flames and a sleeper team like the stars
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Aug 28 @ 12:15 PM ET
Side note: Funny how once we stop talking politics and COVID, the guys who only talk politics and COVID disappear. They clearly have no interest in talking hockey.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Aug 28 @ 12:16 PM ET
I think it comes down to habs (overpay), ducks, flames and a sleeper team like the stars
- homiedclown

I still half expect Tampa to somehow trade for him before the deadline and activate him for the playoffs
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Aug 28 @ 12:16 PM ET
Side note: Funny how once we stop talking politics and COVID, the guys who only talk politics and COVID disappear. They clearly have no interest in talking hockey.
- Jet Jaguar BD

It’s why I came back to chat hockey. It was getting unbearable
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
Side note: Funny how once we stop talking politics and COVID, the guys who only talk politics and COVID disappear. They clearly have no interest in talking hockey.
- Jet Jaguar BD



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