There is no replacement for him. For his cost I can’t think of a single person In The nhl. But one playoff series win and him walking vs trading him (obviously depending on return) could have the pens back in contention a lot quicker. For what dmen are going for if Letang has a similar year as last and stays healthy I don’t see why he wouldn’t get a pretty good picks/prospects return if we retain 50% to a win now team. I guess it boils down to if ownership wants to recoup some money now or long term.
- 10inchTerror

There's no situation where moving him results in the Pens getting back in contention a lot quicker.

There's no situation where moving him results in the Pens getting back in contention a lot quicker.
- Rinosaur

Let him walk for nothing gets you nothing. Trading him could result in a defensive prospect. I imagine he’d fetch a 1st. Maybe that 1st is a defenceman. That helps a hell of a lot more in 3-4 years than getting nothing.

Let him walk for nothing gets you nothing. Trading him could result in a defensive prospect. I imagine he’d fetch a 1st. Maybe that 1st is a defenceman. That helps a hell of a lot more in 3-4 years than getting nothing.
- 10inchTerror

Trading him while in playoff contention takes you out of playoff contention.

See, this is the issue with everyone who talks about trading guys like Letang. You don't make moves based on "who knows?" #1 Dmen aren't just hanging around in some room somewhere saying, "Hey, there's tons of us. Why isn't anyone trading for us?"

The NHL isn't capfriendly.com. You don't just make trades and figure, oh, we'll just figure out because we can definitely find teams who'll take this or that and give us player X.

You don't trade someone like Letang unless you replace him with another Letang. You don't get to the cup without a legit #1 dman. You just don't. Maybe once or twice over the last twenty years has a team without a true #1 dman made it to the cup and NO team wins the cup without one.
- Rinosaur

First, neither you nor I are the GM of the Penguins. My reference to "who knows" wasn't meant to provide an answer to a hypothethical question that contained no parameters (i.e., your question).

Second, my "trade" wasn't a "Cap Friendly" trade. It was merely an example to demonstrate that none us - not me and not you - have any idea what a trade might look like IF a trade involving Kris Letang were to occur.

Third, if you go back to my original premise, which your question/comment ignores, I'm not advocating that Kris Letang be traded. However, the choice between getting something for a player and not getting anything is a calculation that Hextall is going to make - assuming, again, that Letang is going to want market value on his next contract. Burke has made it clear; the team needs cap space. I cited the interview where he said as much.

You apparently believe that the Penguins are a legitimate Stanley Cup contender as the team is currently constituted, and that Letang must be a member of that team in order to fulfill that destiny. I don't believe that the team is a Stanley Cup contender, as the team is currently constituted. That seems to be the basis of our disagreement. Now, should Letang accept a team-friendly contract, I would agree that there would be no reason to trade him.

First, neither you nor I are the GM of the Penguins. My reference to "who knows" wasn't meant to provide an answer to a hypothethical question that contained no parameters (i.e., your question).

Second, my "trade" wasn't a "Cap Friendly" trade. It was merely an example to demonstrate that none us - not me and not you - have any idea what a trade might look like IF a trade involving Kris Letang were to occur.

Third, if you go back to my original premise, which your question/comment ignores, I'm not advocating that Kris Letang be traded. However, the choice between getting something for a player and not getting anything is a calculation that Hextall is going to make - assuming, again, that Letang is going to want market value on his next contract. Burke has made it clear; the team needs cap space. I cited the interview where he said as much.

You apparently believe that the Penguins are a legitimate Stanley Cup contender as the team is currently constituted, and that Letang must be a member of that team in order to fulfill that destiny. I don't believe that the team is a Stanley Cup contender, as the team is currently constituted. That seems to be the basis of our disagreement. Now, should Letang accept a team-friendly contract, I would agree that there would be no reason to trade him.
- Florida Penguin

That’s pretty much it. Everyone would do something different. I understand Rino’s point and agree with him, he’s absolutely right about how paramount Letang is to this teams success. I want Letang to retire a pen more than most here and I’ve advocated that any time it’s come up here. But unless we are a contender my priority would be trying to jump start a rebuild.

First, neither you nor I are the GM of the Penguins. My reference to "who knows" wasn't meant to provide an answer to a hypothethical question that contained no parameters (i.e., your question).

Second, my "trade" wasn't a "Cap Friendly" trade. It was merely an example to demonstrate that none us - not me and not you - have any idea what a trade might look like IF a trade involving Kris Letang were to occur.

Third, if you go back to my original premise, which your question/comment ignores, I'm not advocating that Kris Letang be traded. However, the choice between getting something for a player and not getting anything is a calculation that Hextall is going to make - assuming, again, that Letang is going to want market value on his next contract. Burke has made it clear; the team needs cap space. I cited the interview where he said as much.

You apparently believe that the Penguins are a legitimate Stanley Cup contender as the team is currently constituted, and that Letang must be a member of that team in order to fulfill that destiny. I don't believe that the team is a Stanley Cup contender, as the team is currently constituted. That seems to be the basis of our disagreement. Now, should Letang accept a team-friendly contract, I would agree that there would be no reason to trade him.
- Florida Penguin

You apparently haven't completely read what I wrote.

That’s pretty much it. Everyone would do something different. I understand Rino’s point and agree with him, he’s absolutely right about how paramount Letang is to this teams success. I want Letang to retire a pen more than most here and I’ve advocated that any time it’s come up here. But unless we are a contender my priority would be trying to jump start a rebuild.
- 10inchTerror

And this is precisely what I said. You trade Letang if you're calling it quits OR if the Pens are completely out of the race come the deadline and Letang has made it clear he's not re-signing.

Letang won’t get a raise @ 34-35 yo. Neither Geno. Chill guys. His best days are behind him already. I bet Him and Geno re-sign with us without any problems (only problem I’d see is if they want too much term)

But Domi does nothing that you just said we need. He runs his mouth and walks away. He's a little female dog.
- burgh4life87

When max fights he usually wins.

Thanks for pointing that out. It's not a good look for Geno to skip practice to party the night before, but who did Craig Adams think he was to try to punish him for it?
- Tojo.

A legend really.

Letang won’t get a raise @ 34-35 yo. Neither Geno. Chill guys. His best days are behind him already. I bet Him and Geno re-sign with us without any problems (only problem I’d see is if they want too much term)
- Barnaby36

Finally some common sense on Letang and Malkin, neither will get a raise. You dont pay mid 30 players for past performance especially with their injury history. Hextal had no ties to either, he is a gm and not a fan, he is not.going to overpay to keep either one...

If he does end up wanting a raise, given our cap structure it will unfortunately be a problem. We can’t give him a raise.
- Victoro311

Let Rust walk and pay Letang. Letang is more valuable to the Pens than Rust.

Finally some common sense on Letang and Malkin, neither will get a raise. You dont pay mid 30 players for past performance especially with their injury history. Hextal had no ties to either, he is a gm and not a fan, he is not.going to overpay to keep either one...
- PENS1989

Ideally you give each a 3 year deal and move on but I bet their agents might ask for 5 years and it would sting.

I'd love to see Domi on our top 6 if the price was Pettersson.

When max fights he usually wins.
- Grinder47

False

Let Rust walk and pay Letang. Letang is more valuable to the Pens than Rust.
- j.boyd919

Letting Rust walk is fine. We have Simon back.

False
- Feds91Stammer

Domi sucks.

False
- Feds91Stammer

Whenever I think of Domi's fighting I always think of him trying to jump soft ass Petterson after a clean hit and Pets just holding him at arms length while Domi tuckered himself out and then unloading on the back of his head before tackling him to the ground. Domi seems more a pest than an actual physical intimidator.

False
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah I wouldnt call much of this winning haha

https://www.hockeyfights.com/players/16755

Whenever I think of Domi's fighting I always think of him trying to jump soft ass Petterson after a clean hit and Pets just holding him at arms length while Domi tuckered himself out and then unloading on the back of his head before tackling him to the ground. Domi seems more a pest than an actual physical intimidator.
- Victoro311

According to the votes Petts won this one hahaha

https://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/n260332

Yeah I wouldnt call much of this winning haha

https://www.hockeyfights.com/players/16755
- MattStrat

According to the votes he's 5-5, but one of them had about as many votes on draw as it did on Domi. So either 5-5 or 4-5-1.

According to the votes Petts won this one hahaha

https://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/n260332
- MattStrat

Our dmen are so soft. I feel for jarry, he will continually get run by other teams. I dont care who our goalie is you cant keep your crease cleared ypu are giving up soft garbage goals!

According to the votes he's 5-5, but one of them had about as many votes on draw as it did on Domi. So either 5-5 or 4-5-1.
- Victoro311

And some of the ones he lost the voting is a landslide against him...Hathaway, Foligno, Sabourin...against actual long pants guys hahah

Whenever I think of Domi's fighting I always think of him trying to jump soft ass Petterson after a clean hit and Pets just holding him at arms length while Domi tuckered himself out and then unloading on the back of his head before tackling him to the ground. Domi seems more a pest than an actual physical intimidator.
- Victoro311

Domi is a like a low rent Sean Avery to me.

When max fights he usually wins.
- Grinder47

He's the type of player that strokes the ego while having a minimal impact on the game. He isn't worth trading for.

Jesse Marshall put up an article comparing McGinn to Tanev and it's some great work. I think that Hextall actually made the best of a bad situation. McGinn and Tanev are similar in many ways, but it really looks like McGinn may be the better more versatile player for less money than Tanev.