Good for you. It was also a target in CT, he’s an NHL player it’s not like lebron walking through the town. He ate it up, told me I had a good eye for spotting him
- ClaudeFather

I find hockey players are quite accommodating. I am such a big fan, I'd always take an opportunity to meet any of the Flyers players. I've had nothing but good experiences with the players and alumni.

I really like the relationship between the level of play vs the cost to the AAV of the defense right now. Great bang for the buck.

Top pair (cost 13m AAV)
Provy - Ellis

Second pair (cost ? 9m AAV)
Sanheim- Ristolainen

Third Pair (cost 2.7m AAV)
Yandle- Braun

7th D (cost .75m AAV)
Morin

Playing heavy minutes in AHL
York/Zamula - Clendening

I will say this is a durable crew also. A lot has been over blown on Ellis which he will miss some games from being banged up I’m sure along with Sanheim. But the group has loads of experience along with a couple Ironmen in the line up.

Solid call ups if needed.
- peesinwind

I'm not sure why you think a lot has been overblown on Ellis missing games. He has missed a lot of games in his career.

I find hockey players are quite accommodating. I am such a big fan, I'd always take an opportunity to meet any of the Flyers players. I've had nothing but good experiences with the players and alumni.
- Hextall271

For sure, they also aren’t noticed all that much either. I’d shout at the guy again if I had the chance lol

I'm not sure why you think a lot has been overblown on Ellis missing games. He has missed a lot of games in his career.
- MJL

that's relevant, and depending on the type of injury it can be more or less concerning long term

Ellis' broken finger or knuckle or whatever, for example, is not something i'm worried about going forward like Forsberg's recurring issues

I'm really confused how some posters can mention Ryan Ellis' injury history and at the same time feel the need to point out we "overpayed" for Ristolainen.

For sure, they also aren’t noticed all that much either. I’d shout at the guy again if I had the chance lol
- ClaudeFather

yeah you should, most are super cool and it is how they make their living, THE FANS. We were at the rink here in SFL and JVR was working out with his coach. It had to be a 2 hours work out. JVR got off the ice and my 10 year old son ran up to him to sign his jersey. jVR slowed down, spoke with my son and spoke with other kids. Adam Oates was there a different day, we saw him in the parking lot and he stopped and took a pic with my son, chatted for 5 minutes. The thought crosses my mind that we are infringing on their time but my 10 year old's excitement showed we were not.

For sure, they also aren’t noticed all that much either. I’d shout at the guy again if I had the chance lol
- ClaudeFather

When it comes to the Flyers, I am still an unabashed fanboy and get excited to watch their games. Just who I am I guess. My wife still makes fun of me..in 2012 we went to a game in Boston and got to meet most of the team after the game. At one point, I was waiting behind a bunch of kids to say hi to Danny Briere and get him to sign my jersey.. she's like at least you didn't push the small kids out to the way haha

I tell them I am Canadian and I think they understand that we're all beer swilling hockey nuts up here.

https://twitter.com/JoelK...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

great read

I'm not sure why you think a lot has been overblown on Ellis missing games. He has missed a lot of games in his career.
- MJL

Over blown on his durability. In regards to people feeling like he is in danger of having a career ending injury such as ACL tear or repeated shoulder injuries or concussions. Or that his injuries will contribute to a rapid decline. I said he will miss games. He has missed games. That I don’t dispute. That is a fact. His injuries aren’t ones that you see contribute to a rapid decline.

yeah you should, most are super cool and it is how they make their living, THE FANS. We were at the rink here in SFL and JVR was working out with his coach. It had to be a 2 hours work out. JVR got off the ice and my 10 year old son ran up to him to sign his jersey. jVR slowed down, spoke with my son and spoke with other kids. Adam Oates was there a different day, we saw him in the parking lot and he stopped and took a pic with my son, chatted for 5 minutes. The thought crosses my mind that we are infringing on their time but my 10 year old's excitement showed we were not.
- wcorvette

Yea most hockey guys are really good guys and I’m sure they enjoy being acknowledged at times. Hockey is in a spot where they can probably go to the mall at times and walk through unoticed so I’m sure it feels good at times to get noticed.

When it comes to the Flyers, I am still an unabashed fanboy and get excited to watch their games. Just who I am I guess. My wife still makes fun of me..in 2012 we went to a game in Boston and got to meet most of the team after the game. At one point, I was waiting behind a bunch of kids to say hi to Danny Briere and get him to sign my jersey.. she's like at least you didn't push the small kids out to the way haha

I tell them I am Canadian and I think they understand that we're all beer swilling hockey nuts up here.
- Hextall271

Haha I’m thinking of old school when Will Ferrell just chucks that kids head out of the way in the dart scene

https://twitter.com/JoelKlettke/status/1422379667147812866?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1422379667147812866%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

great read
- hello it's me 2050

Haha the passing in practice is a little insane

that's relevant, and depending on the type of injury it can be more or less concerning long term

Ellis' broken finger or knuckle or whatever, for example, is not something i'm worried about going forward like Forsberg's recurring issues
- Coburns_Nose

That is what I was getting at. He has missed games. That’s a fact. No debate. His style of play results in him getting banged up. Yet, it hasn’t resulted in anything that Inwould be concerned about that would contribute to endangering his career or causing a sharp decline in his play. Which is what the main concern of those who question the trade.

This trade was a great trade as it stands now. This guy moves the needle.

Kyle Calder
Mike York
Dmitry Afanasenkov
Randy Robitaille

Man that 06-07 team was so bad

Zhitnik for Coburn still one of the greatest trades ever.
- mochoson

almost as good as wash trading steve eminger for a 1st

Good for you. It was also a target in CT, he’s an NHL player it’s not like lebron walking through the town. He ate it up, told me I had a good eye for spotting him
- ClaudeFather

Just seems like a kid would do.

Haha the passing in practice is a little insane
- ClaudeFather

he can't be like that all the time

you're supposed to practice to prepare for in-game situations. In-game situations involve a lot of rushed, sloppy passes

i remember reading an interview with a player about his rookie season practicing with Scott Gomez. He said Gomez was purposely throwing him a lot of bad passes in practice telling him he's gotta practice corralling those pucks in transition

I'm really confused how some posters can mention Ryan Ellis' injury history and at the same time feel the need to point out we "overpayed" for Ristolainen.
- mochoson

Weird how some around here can Kimmo Timonen and Ryan Ellis in the same breath as a comparison. We’re quick to top pair Ellis knowing he might not see a full season.

Weird how some around here can Kimmo Timonen and Ryan Ellis in the same breath as a comparison. We’re quick to top pair Ellis knowing he might not see a full season.
- SuperSchennBros

you cant pencil him in on the top pair? Whut? Thats how id place him right now

Weird how some around here can Kimmo Timonen and Ryan Ellis in the same breath as a comparison. We’re quick to top pair Ellis knowing he might not see a full season.
- SuperSchennBros

Ellis has been a top pair defender almost as soon as he set foot in the NHL. Yes, he is a top pair defender even if he misses a handful of games. I think the comparison of Timonen is that they were both small more mobile top tier defensemen that came here through trades in their later years. Understandable comparison.

https://twitter.com/JoelKlettke/status/1422379667147812866?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1422379667147812866%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

great read
- hello it's me 2050

I'm guessing no pizza and beers in the locker room after games.

Weird how some around here can Kimmo Timonen and Ryan Ellis in the same breath as a comparison. We’re quick to top pair Ellis knowing he might not see a full season.
- SuperSchennBros

Ellis IS a top pairing defensemen who more often than not plays 70+ games if not a full season. His injury history isn't and shouldn't be alarming. You're not a contending team if you don't have the depth to replace any given player on the roster for 10-15 games.

Weird how some around here can Kimmo Timonen and Ryan Ellis in the same breath as a comparison. We’re quick to top pair Ellis knowing he might not see a full season.
- SuperSchennBros

He’s played over 23 minutes the past 5 years but good call, another one from you.

I'm really confused how some posters can mention Ryan Ellis' injury history and at the same time feel the need to point out we "overpayed" for Ristolainen.
- mochoson

This comment does not make any sense. The situations are completely unrelated.

Over blown on his durability. In regards to people feeling like he is in danger of having a career ending injury such as ACL tear or repeated shoulder injuries or concussions. Or that his injuries will contribute to a rapid decline. I said he will miss games. He has missed games. That I don’t dispute. That is a fact. His injuries aren’t ones that you see contribute to a rapid decline.
- peesinwind

I think it's a very relevant concern and I believe is was a significant factor in why Nashville was willing to trade him.

Ellis IS a top pairing defensemen who more often than not plays 70+ games if not a full season. His injury history isn't and shouldn't be alarming. You're not a contending team if you don't have the depth to replace any given player on the roster for 10-15 games.
- mochoson

Ellis has played 70 or more games in an NHL season 4 times in 10 years. He has played one season where he played 82 games. Now to be fair there were some shortened seasons the last two and his rookie year.