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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 4 @ 10:07 AM ET
No one ever comes here is my point. The Penguins cannot land free agents.
- Victoro311

A lot of that is incompetence by management. Holland had the same issue in Detroit unless it was a stupid offer.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Aug 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
No one ever comes here is my point. The Penguins cannot land free agents.
- Victoro311


THIS

I’m still waiting for all the “proven scorers” to come here on a 1 year cheap deal to “Play with Sid”

It’s the narrative that we heard since his second year in the league that, to this day, has never happened

Same goes for Geno

Best we got in FA was Gonchar, and then overpaying for guys like Michalek and Martin
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 4 @ 11:56 AM ET
THIS

I’m still waiting for all the “proven scorers” to come here on a 1 year cheap deal to “Play with Sid”

It’s the narrative that we heard since his second year in the league that, to this day, has never happened

Same goes for Geno

Best we got in FA was Gonchar, and then overpaying for guys like Michalek and Martin

- TheGame316

Maybe if Sid was cooler guys would want to play with him.

Look at how much of a psycho Mackinnon is.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 4 @ 11:59 AM ET
Maybe if Sid was cooler guys would want to play with him.

Look at how much of a psycho Mackinnon is.

- Feds91Stammer


What about all those FA's racing to take next to nothing just to play with McDavid.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 4 @ 12:06 PM ET
What about all those FA's racing to take next to nothing just to play with McDavid.
- Rinosaur

Yeah it’s really just a false narrative. Most guys get one shot at a big UFA payday so nobody is taking less to play with a guy until they’re a vet chasing a cup.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 4 @ 12:14 PM ET
Yeah it’s really just a false narrative. Most guys get one shot at a big UFA payday so nobody is taking less to play with a guy until they’re a vet chasing a cup.
- Feds91Stammer


Yup which the Pens have signed plenty of over the years.

People just also assume that because said players signed with other teams that they said no to the Pens without considering that maybe the Pens never made pitches for them or any other personal reasons that have anything to do with their own feelings about playing for the Pens.

Just because WE may want a certain player doesn't mean a GM feels the same, again, like signing JJ and Tanev. They didn't come cheap, so it wasn't like the Pens couldn't have ponied up just a little more money to get a fan-preferred player.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 4 @ 12:18 PM ET
Maybe if Sid was cooler guys would want to play with him.

Look at how much of a psycho Mackinnon is.

- Feds91Stammer


If anyone forced me to eat chickpea pasta I would request a trade right away. Garbage ass stuff.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 4 @ 12:28 PM ET
Domi is on the trading block. He'll play for his fourth team once traded in his six year career. I still remember when he made fun of another player for being waivers and there has to be some reason no team wants to hold on to him. Friedman reported CBJ doesn't feel his a good fit for them.

I've personally never been a fan of his and think he's been overrated by people, but I'm curious if he'd be a good gamble for the Pens if CBJ retained a chunk of change. Needing players who can play both C/W is a priority and he's on the last year of his contract.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 4 @ 12:35 PM ET
Domi is on the trading block. He'll play for his fourth team once traded in his six year career. I still remember when he made fun of another player for being waivers and there has to be some reason no team wants to hold on to him. Friedman reported CBJ doesn't feel his a good fit for them.

I've personally never been a fan of his and think he's been overrated by people, but I'm curious if he'd be a good gamble for the Pens if CBJ retained a chunk of change. Needing players who can play both C/W is a priority and he's on the last year of his contract.

- Rinosaur

The Domi issue imo is everyone acquired him hoping he can play center for them but he’s just not an NHL center. Very solid top 6 winger though.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 4 @ 12:36 PM ET
If anyone forced me to eat chickpea pasta I would request a trade right away. Garbage ass stuff.
- burgh4life87

Haha I’m showing up to the rink with a plate from a bbq joint and a pizza place daily just to (frank) with him.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 4 @ 12:38 PM ET
Yup which the Pens have signed plenty of over the years.

People just also assume that because said players signed with other teams that they said no to the Pens without considering that maybe the Pens never made pitches for them or any other personal reasons that have anything to do with their own feelings about playing for the Pens.

Just because WE may want a certain player doesn't mean a GM feels the same, again, like signing JJ and Tanev. They didn't come cheap, so it wasn't like the Pens couldn't have ponied up just a little more money to get a fan-preferred player.

- Rinosaur

Yeah most UFA signings end up failing anyways.

I like it for stop gap fill depth holes like Yzerman is doing or for the truly high end players.

#BarkovToDetroitWatch2022
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 4 @ 12:50 PM ET
Haha I’m showing up to the rink with a plate from a bbq joint and a pizza place daily just to (frank) with him.
- Feds91Stammer


Just gonna crush a pint of ice cream after every practice.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 4 @ 12:50 PM ET
Domi is on the trading block. He'll play for his fourth team once traded in his six year career. I still remember when he made fun of another player for being waivers and there has to be some reason no team wants to hold on to him. Friedman reported CBJ doesn't feel his a good fit for them.

I've personally never been a fan of his and think he's been overrated by people, but I'm curious if he'd be a good gamble for the Pens if CBJ retained a chunk of change. Needing players who can play both C/W is a priority and he's on the last year of his contract.

- Rinosaur


If they took a sizeable contract back in return I would say try it, but I think he is overpaid for what he brings. We already have a few guys like that.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 4 @ 1:00 PM ET
If they took a sizeable contract back in return I would say try it, but I think he is overpaid for what he brings. We already have a few guys like that.
- burgh4life87


Yeah, I just wonder what they'd want vs. what the Pens would be willing to part with to retain anywhere between 30%-50%.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Aug 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
What about all those FA's racing to take next to nothing just to play with McDavid.
- Rinosaur



So, you're comparing Pittsburgh to Edmonton when it comes to FA? So was I. Guys just don't dream of playing in the "Steel City". It's almost like is has the Edmonton/Winnipeg stink on it. After 15 years, it's more than just coincidence

I don't know why that is, but it's ridiculous to think the Pens wouldn't be in on guys willing to sign a 1 year deal for below market value who have proven records of scoring, etc, when the team has always been in need of at least 1 top 6 wing and multiple players in the bottom 6
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
Any chance STL wants Pets for Tarensanko?

This roster is so blah.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
Yeah, I just wonder what they'd want vs. what the Pens would be willing to part with to retain anywhere between 30%-50%.
- Rinosaur

I would guess high draft compensation, which is something I think Ron will never go for.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 4 @ 1:13 PM ET
So, you're comparing Pittsburgh to Edmonton when it comes to FA?
- TheGame316


No, I wasn't.


I don't know why that is, but it's ridiculous to think the Pens wouldn't be in on guys willing to sign a 1 year deal for below market value who have proven records of scoring, etc, when the team has always been in need of at least 1 top 6 wing and multiple players in the bottom 6

- TheGame316


Your lack of critical thinking skill no longer surprises me.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 4 @ 1:15 PM ET
I would guess high draft compensation, which is something I think Ron will never go for.
- burgh4life87


Yeah, agreed. I looked at their roster and there doesn't seem to be a need for a dman like Petts, so some kind swap with retention doesn't seem plausible.

Does swapping him with Zucker make sense? Probably not and I'm not sure that trade really makes sense for either squad unless the Pens just want out of that contract a year earlier.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Aug 4 @ 1:17 PM ET
No, I wasn't.



Your lack of critical thinking skill no longer surprises me.

- Rinosaur


I tried to use small words, so try reading it again a little slower

Perhaps, perhaps, Players needing a 1 year prove it deal don't flock to
Pittsburgh to play with Crosby for the same reasons WE KNOW, that players don't flock to Edmonton, despite McDavid being there

Edmonton Sucks, and after 15 years of evidence, perhaps, perhaps the underlying opinion is that Pittsburgh does too. It's not like the organization is some kind of clown show that treats players poorly

Expand your thinking, kid
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 4 @ 1:17 PM ET
Any chance STL wants Pets for Tarensanko?

This roster is so blah.

- sammy87


Not really. They're pretty set LD-wise and financially it wouldn't even work for the Pens.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
I tried to use small words, so try reading it again a little slower

Perhaps, perhaps, Players needing a 1 year prove it deal don't flock to
Pittsburgh to play with Crosby for the same reasons WE KNOW, that players don't flock to Edmonton, despite McDavid being there

Edmonton Sucks, and after 15 years of evidence, perhaps, perhaps the underlying opinion is that Pittsburgh does too. It's not like the organization is some kind of clown show that treats players poorly

Expand you thinking, kid

- TheGame316


You don't need to use small words. Your ideas/thoughts are as simple-minded as they come.

Think outside the box, kid.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Aug 4 @ 1:24 PM ET
You don't need to use small words. Your ideas/thoughts are as simple-minded as they come.

Think outside the box, kid.

- Rinosaur


Explain it then. 15 years of not being able to attract even 1 top tier Free Agent, or value 1 year "looking for a cup" player to play with the Best player in the game, and at worst, the #5 player, in an organization committed to winning and that managed to compete and win 3 cups and appear in 4 in that time (That also had glaring openings in the top 6)

In your mind... "Well, they just never had the cap space"

Sure, They've been able to resign guys (Kunitz/Dupuis, etc) but at the same time, we all thought those deals were overpays

Almost like the reason Shero, GMJR, etc always relied on trades is that they KNOW come July 1, there would never be anybody's #1, or even top 5 destination

And the Pens have had capsapce, and certainly moves could have been made if a truly exceptional player made his interest in Pittsburgh known
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
Explain it then. 15 years of not being able to attract even 1 top tier Free Agent, or value 1 year "looking for a cup" player to play with the Best player in the game, and at worst, the #5 player, in an organization committed to winning and that managed to compete and win 3 cups and appear in 4 in that time (That also had glaring openings in the top 6)

In your mind... "Well, they just never had the cap space"

Sure, They've been able to resign guys (Kunitz/Dupuis, etc) but at the same time, we all thought those deals were overpays

Almost like the reason Shero, GMJR, etc always relied on trades is that they KNOW come July 1, there would never be anybody's #1, or even top 5 destination

And the Pens have had capsapce, and certainly moves could have been made if a truly exceptional player made his interest in Pittsburgh known

- TheGame316


You're so incredibly painful.

I explained it in a post already in this very thread between Feds and I. You just have an incredible inability to consider other variables and scenarios.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Aug 4 @ 1:29 PM ET
You're so incredibly painful.

I explained it in a post already in this very thread between Feds and I.

- Rinosaur


"tHeY nEvEr hAd aNy cApSpAce" is the laziest explanation possible

But it's a simple one, no it's not unexpected
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