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Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
For me Evander Kane is in the “No way no matter what” category. Like someone already said, he has been despised in three locker rooms already and there are good reasons for that. Now with the gambling and deadbeat dad accusations? Forget it. You’d have to be dumb or insane to trade for a guy like that.

It may be a moot point anyway since he might get banned for life from the NHL if it turns out he bet on hockey.

- Sams_Dog

Every time he switched teams though there were 25 woke articles blaming hockey for why such a talented player keeps having to switch lockerooms.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 3 @ 4:00 PM ET
How do you feel about his production? He does have a shade over 2 pts/60 with Sid and 1.8 with Malkin.
- Tojo.

It’s okay but not enough for his cap or cost to acquire. He could definitely bounce back this season.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 3 @ 4:00 PM ET
For me Evander Kane is in the “No way no matter what” category. Like someone already said, he has been despised in three locker rooms already and there are good reasons for that. Now with the gambling and deadbeat dad accusations? Forget it. You’d have to be dumb or insane to trade for a guy like that.

It may be a moot point anyway since he might get banned for life from the NHL if it turns out he bet on hockey. -Sams Dog


Pitt is in its twilight years. Winning, soon enough, won’t be an option. So at least kane will bring some entertainment value. Idc what he does in sj but if he’s throwing games here I will. Plus with his impending bankruptcy he has a lot in common with the penguins.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 3 @ 4:02 PM ET
Did Ryan Wilson just say losing Tanev was a bad off-season move? He must really want to push Hextall is bad because RW has been wanting to dump that contract since it was signed.
- Tojo.


He was saying it would be bad to walk from ZAR considering the Pens lost McCann and Tanev for nothing.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 3 @ 4:20 PM ET
Pitt is in its twilight years. Winning, soon enough, won’t be an option. So at least kane will bring some entertainment value. Idc what he does in sj but if he’s throwing games here I will. Plus with his impending bankruptcy he has a lot in common with the penguins.
- 10inchTerror

He’s been sued twice for violent assault, one was on a woman.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 3 @ 4:26 PM ET
PPL seriously want Kane here? Dude was a dirt bag from the beginning. Had to be blind to not see that.

yes the pens roster blows this year.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 3 @ 4:28 PM ET
It’s okay but not enough for his cap or cost to acquire. He could definitely bounce back this season.
- Feds91Stammer

I'd agree. He's had much stronger years and hoping he has one if he ends up staying.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 3 @ 4:59 PM ET
I'd agree. He's had much stronger years and hoping he has one if he ends up staying.
- Tojo.

Yeah tied for 153rd in 5v5 p60 among forwards with 500+ toi since he joined the pens.

If the top 90-95 are first liners going off production he’s been a middle to low end 2nd liner.

Eye test paints him a lot worse than he’s been in terms of production.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Aug 3 @ 5:04 PM ET

W H O ??????????????????








Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 3 @ 5:13 PM ET
Yeah tied for 153rd in 5v5 p60 among forwards with 500+ toi since he joined the pens.

If the top 90-95 are first liners going off production he’s been a middle to low end 2nd liner.

Eye test paints him a lot worse than he’s been in terms of production.

- Feds91Stammer

That all checks out with the assent that he's not a bad contract, he's just not a value contract, and right now we need value.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Aug 3 @ 5:19 PM ET
W H O ??????????????????









- Phillywhiteout

lol here comes the 1975 guy again
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 3 @ 5:33 PM ET
He’s been sued twice for violent assault, one was on a woman.
- Victoro311


Potentially no worse than Big Ben. And that’s the stuff I’m talking about. We’re gonna suck soon enough. Someone needs to keep it interesting.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Aug 3 @ 5:53 PM ET
Seems a lot here dont want Kane...

Let's do the oh so fun hypothetical... Sharks offer Kane and retain however much for either Petterson or Matheson to make it the same cap hit to us. And maybe a late pick.

Also assuming he did not gamble on any nhl games and will get a massive suspension/bann.

You still against it?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 3 @ 6:26 PM ET
Seems a lot here dont want Kane...

Let's do the oh so fun hypothetical... Sharks offer Kane and retain however much for either Petterson or Matheson to make it the same cap hit to us. And maybe a late pick.

Also assuming he did not gamble on any nhl games and will get a massive suspension/bann.

You still against it?

- Guile


No to Kane in any situation. Half of the Sharks don't want him back.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 3 @ 6:34 PM ET
Seems a lot here dont want Kane...

Let's do the oh so fun hypothetical... Sharks offer Kane and retain however much for either Petterson or Matheson to make it the same cap hit to us. And maybe a late pick.

Also assuming he did not gamble on any nhl games and will get a massive suspension/bann.

You still against it?

- Guile

There would be zero circumstances that you should want that POS on your team.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Aug 3 @ 6:39 PM ET
"Hopefully it doesn’t come to that point because the Penguins have already lost Jared McCann and Brandon Tanev for nothing."

The Pens were going to lose McCann no matter what. So in the end they traded Tanev for McGinn, Hallander and 7th.

RW, you HATED the Tanev signing for the two years he was here and if the Pens were offered that as a trade you would have said; Do It! But now they got rid of him, all of a sudden now they should have kept him.

Make your mind up!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 3 @ 7:32 PM ET
"Hopefully it doesn’t come to that point because the Penguins have already lost Jared McCann and Brandon Tanev for nothing."

The Pens were going to lose McCann no matter what. So in the end they traded Tanev for McGinn, Hallander and 7th.

RW, you HATED the Tanev signing for the two years he was here and if the Pens were offered that as a trade you would have said; Do It! But now they got rid of him, all of a sudden now they should have kept him.

Make your mind up!

- stevens87

He said multiple times that he didn't want to give up assets for Seattle to take a contract, and McCann was one of our better assets, so I doubt RW would have been down to trade McCann just to replace Tanev with comparable contract, a B- prospect, and the lowest of low picks.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 3 @ 8:00 PM ET
He said multiple times that he didn't want to give up assets for Seattle to take a contract, and McCann was one of our better assets, so I doubt RW would have been down to trade McCann just to replace Tanev with comparable contract, a B- prospect, and the lowest of low picks.
- Victoro311

If only their was a legit top 6 winger that could be had for like 4x4m
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Aug 3 @ 8:42 PM ET
They can't "walk" from ZAR unless the award is more than 4.5 Million, and it won't be
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 3 @ 9:20 PM ET
If only their was a legit top 6 winger that could be had for like 4x4m
- Feds91Stammer

Probably doesnt want to come here like the other 4.5x5 winger that came out of the market this offseason.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 3 @ 11:22 PM ET
If only their was a legit top 6 winger that could be had for like 4x4m
- Feds91Stammer

I'm all for bringing him here haha
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 3 @ 11:23 PM ET
Probably doesnt want to come here like the other 4.5x5 winger that came out of the market this offseason.
- Victoro311

Saad was apparently never coming here haha. And I don't see Sullivan being a good match with Tatar but I'd take him here.
TheBrownListerine
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Camp Hill, PA
Joined: 10.08.2020

Aug 4 @ 12:37 AM ET
If only their was a legit top 6 winger that could be had for like 4x4m
- Feds91Stammer


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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 4 @ 9:09 AM ET
Saad was apparently never coming here haha. And I don't see Sullivan being a good match with Tatar but I'd take him here.
- 668710

No one ever comes here is my point. The Penguins cannot land free agents.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 4 @ 9:45 AM ET
No one ever comes here is my point. The Penguins cannot land free agents.
- Victoro311


For a very long time the Pens haven't had the cap space to really be players in the FA market. They've had to make changes via trade. Sadly, JR also squandered the chance to go after better available players and over pay for the likes of JJ and Tanev, so who knows what better players he could have landed. He had his own agenda as we all know.
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