PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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That depends what my pyjamas look like. - Scabeh
They were bed sheets |
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Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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Would you take 7-7.5 if someone offered you 8-8.5? - PatC80
Depending on the circumstances - maybe. But that's me personally, which is pretty irrelevant.
Players take discounts all the time. I'm not saying Rielly will - I'm saying I think the Leafs offer to him will max out at around 7-7.5 per year, and he will have to decide if that is enough for him if he wants to stay. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Same TOI per game as Werenski, Ekblad, Gio, Hedman etc. last 3 seasons.
Can’t see him taking munch of a discount. - Garnie
If Rielly gets to free agency, he's not staying here.. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Crazy how things work out huh? - Scabeh
🤷🏻♂️
It’s the way it’s been for a while now...everybody gets all excited about term when most of the time it doesn’t really matter. The odd time a team gets stuck and then they trade them to Arizona. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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If Rielly gets to free agency, he's not staying here.. - PatC80
Hometown discount will be to the Nucks if anybody. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Depending on the circumstances - maybe. But that's me personally, which is pretty irrelevant.
Players take discounts all the time. I'm not saying Rielly will - I'm saying I think the Leafs offer to him will max out at around 7-7.5 per year, and he will have to decide if that is enough for him if he wants to stay. - Leafs43
Hyman didn't take a discount and everyone thought he would. Marner didn't take a discount and everyone thought he would..
If Rielly gets to free agency, we've lost him for nothing |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Hyman didn't take a discount and everyone thought he would. Marner didn't take a discount and everyone thought he would..
If Rielly gets to free agency, we've lost him for nothing - PatC80
Should’ be working a trade with Van.
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Should’ be working a trade with Van. - Garnie
I wish..
Too bad, they have Hughes, OEL and Tyler Myers to pay |
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Hyman didn't take a discount and everyone thought he would. Marner didn't take a discount and everyone thought he would..
If Rielly gets to free agency, we've lost him for nothing - PatC80
Listen, I like Reilly but the last two seasons I believe we've seen him regress. He did have a good first round in the playoffs but that was it. I don't think we've seen him match the effort he put forth the year he was in the running for the Norris (3 years ago now?).
If he wants anything more than 6-6.5 with term then I think it's time to move on. Either trade him away for draft picks/prospects or a dman signed to a reasonable deal or take that money and try and sign some form or replacement and piecemeal the d together.
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Would you take 7-7.5 if someone offered you 8-8.5? - PatC80
7mil in TO is better than 8mil in Columbus Ohio
- 99% of Hockey Wives |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Rielly's going to get paid.
Leafs fans have a year to accept this.
But oh Lordy, he's going to get paid. - Atomic Wedgie
He's absolutely going to get paid. I find myself agreeing that situationally any team that pays Morgan Rielly the way teams paid Hamilton (9), Werenski (9.6), Heiskanen (8.5), Makar (9), Pietrangelo (8.8) or even Josi (9.1) are making a mistake.
Some recent comparables are probably Cabot (8), Trouba (8), Spurgeon (7.6) or even Carlson (8) - some of those go back a few years, but it seems to bracket an incomplete top-pair offensive defenseman's price range.
The next tier down is where Santo argues, and it's not an unfair position to consider that these guys might be in-line with Rielly: Petry (6.25), Krug (6.5), Brodin (6), Provorov (6.75), Faulk (6.5) . . . they are all excellent players, but they are all flawed in some capacity of their game. Rielly fits into this bucket, or the tier above.
He seems like a pretty good 7.5m candidate. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Hyman didn't take a discount and everyone thought he would. Marner didn't take a discount and everyone thought he would..
If Rielly gets to free agency, we've lost him for nothing - PatC80
Hyman said he'd take a discount to stay ...Leafs just didn't have a good enough discount offer.
Marner - nobody said that. His agent said they wanted FMV from day 1 and they squeezed until the fruit had nothing left to give.
Rielly - I'm pretty sure he was quoted as saying he'd take a discount to stay.
The problem with looking back is that everyone has a different view on what a discount looks like.
All of that said ...if we've got concerns about Rielly defensively ..and if we've got concerns about Rielly's PP QB ability ...why the (frank) would we consider locking him up for big money anyway.
Get creative Dubie and move on. |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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Ship Rielly out for a king's ransom; a veritable treasure trove of premium assets |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Hyman said he'd take a discount to stay ...Leafs just didn't have a good enough discount offer.
Marner - nobody said that. His agent said they wanted FMV from day 1 and they squeezed until the fruit had nothing left to give.
Rielly - I'm pretty sure he was quoted as saying he'd take a discount to stay.
The problem with looking back is that everyone has a different view on what a discount looks like.
All of that said ...if we've got concerns about Rielly defensively ..and if we've got concerns about Rielly's PP QB ability ...why the (frank) would we consider locking him up for big money anyway.
Get creative Dubie and move on. - The Law
Every athlete in every sport always says this.
"I love it here - best fans in the league! I see myself finishing my career here - hopefully we can make a deal that works for both sides."
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Ship Rielly out for a king's ransom; a veritable treasure trove of premium assets - TheMussel
Soooo much Murrency |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Every athlete in every sport always says this.
"I love it here - best fans in the league! I see myself finishing my career here - hopefully we can make a deal that works for both sides." - Atomic Wedgie
Yup.
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Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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Every athlete in every sport always says this.
"I love it here - best fans in the league! I see myself finishing my career here - hopefully we can make a deal that works for both sides." - Atomic Wedgie
A lot of athletes truly are willing to take a "discount" to stay with their team.
The issue is that fans confuse a "discount" with a "Team friendly deal".
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Listen, I like Reilly but the last two seasons I believe we've seen him regress. He did have a good first round in the playoffs but that was it. I don't think we've seen him match the effort he put forth the year he was in the running for the Norris (3 years ago now?).
If he wants anything more than 6-6.5 with term then I think it's time to move on. Either trade him away for draft picks/prospects or a dman signed to a reasonable deal or take that money and try and sign some form or replacement and piecemeal the d together. - MynameisJeff
I agree. If he wants more than that, and the Leafs probably know what he wants already, they should look to trade him now |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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That depends what my pyjamas look like. - Scabeh
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Hyman said he'd take a discount to stay ...Leafs just didn't have a good enough discount offer.
Marner - nobody said that. His agent said they wanted FMV from day 1 and they squeezed until the fruit had nothing left to give.
Rielly - I'm pretty sure he was quoted as saying he'd take a discount to stay.
The problem with looking back is that everyone has a different view on what a discount looks like.
All of that said ...if we've got concerns about Rielly defensively ..and if we've got concerns about Rielly's PP QB ability ...why the (frank) would we consider locking him up for big money anyway.
Get creative Dubie and move on. - The Law
You're not wrong. McDavid's $12.5m is a apparently a discount and team-friendly contract.
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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If Rielly gets to free agency, he's not staying here.. - PatC80
Agreed.
One would hope that Dubas has had some - or is planning some - preliminary talks with Rielly to feel him out*.
* yes, I know, phrasing, but we all know Dubas likes to bend over, right CC? |
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I agree. If he wants more than that, and the Leafs probably know what he wants already, they should look to trade him now - PatC80
Agreed. Hopefully they have had some talks and know where each other stands.
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Every athlete in every sport always says this.
"I love it here - best fans in the league! I see myself finishing my career here - hopefully we can make a deal that works for both sides." - Atomic Wedgie
Marner and Matthews didn't ..amirite?!
But of course they all say that but of course a lot of them mean it. I'd take a little less if it meant keeping Mrs. Lawsie and the kids happy. Cash is king but sometimes the other stuff has value too. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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You're not wrong. McDavid's $12.5m is a apparently a discount and team-friendly contract. - Monkeypunk
They bought UFA years...Do you even want to try and guess Mcdavids UFA market value? 15-16M? |
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