Well that's certainly the comparable the Leafs would use.

His agent will probably point to Werenski.

The truth being probably in the middle, no?
- Scabeh

And the middle of Werenski and Krug is... 8M(ish). So yeah, that's probably close to where it will land.

He doesn't pk, he is not an all situations D man.

Krug is the comparable.

8x6.25M is the dream, just give him PK's cap hit RS.
- Santo_44

Dream on. Keep trying to justify our unworkable cap situation. btw, did we get Landeskog yet?

Well that's certainly the comparable the Leafs would use.

His agent will probably point to Werenski.

The truth being probably in the middle, no?
- Scabeh

Well I struggle to see why fans are throwing the fact he doesn't PK out the window...I point to Krug because he has the same type of game.

Werenski, Nurse, Jones all are horses. They play in every situation in every game.

Rielly doesn't PK and Muzzin and Brodie hop over the boards in the final min of a game. I see no reason why Rielly can get anything over 6.5M-7M on the open market. He is simply not as good as those guys.

And the middle of Werenski and Krug is... 8M(ish). So yeah, that's probably close to where it will land.
- mjones242

What does Rielly do that Krug doesn't that warrants him to be paid more?

Werenski and Rielly are completely different players.

Krug is a great comparable. Rielly should come in at a similar number - But he likely won't.

Krug signed during the most uncertain offseason in recent history. I think that lowered his value.

Also, the market has changed since then. Top pairing defenseman are getting paid big right now.
- Leafs43

Sure, ones that play in all situations and are used when defending a lead.

What does Rielly do that Krug doesn't that warrants him to be paid more?

Werenski and Rielly are completely different players.
- Santo_44

The market shifts, my friend.

As was mentioned earlier, Krug signed his deal when there was market uncertainty. This summer we've seen absolutely absurd contracts handed out and thus the AAV for #1 d-man continues its inevitable march north. Imagine where we'll be in a year's time?

Having said that, I don't think Werenski and Rielly are necessarily "completely different" players though they may be deployed differently by their respective teams. Suffice it to say, they play comparable minutes and, while I don't think Rielly hits Werenski's price point, I think a deal worth 8M (which would be 1.6M(ish) less than Zach) is likely for 21/22.

I don't see how this is a controversial opinion.

The market shifts, my friend.

As was mentioned earlier, Krug signed his deal when there was market uncertainty. This summer we've seen absolutely absurd contracts handed out and thus the AAV for #1 d-man continues its inevitable march north. Imagine where we'll be in a year's time?

Having said that, I don't think Werenski and Rielly are necessarily "completely different" players though they may be deployed differently by their respective teams. Suffice it to say, they play comparable minutes and, while I don't think Rielly hits Werenski's price point, I think a deal worth 8M (which would be 1.6M(ish) less than Zach) is likely for 21/22.

I don't see how this is a controversial opinion.
- mjones242

Consider who u are arguing with. He's right and the world is wrong.

Business as usual.

Consider who u are arguing with. He's right and the world is wrong.
- fifty__missions

What can I say? I'm a masochist.

The market shifts, my friend.

As was mentioned earlier, Krug signed his deal when there was market uncertainty. This summer we've seen absolutely absurd contracts handed out and thus the AAV for #1 d-man continues its inevitable march north. Imagine where we'll be in a year's time?

Having said that, I don't think Werenski and Rielly are necessarily "completely different" players though they may be deployed differently by their respective teams. Suffice it to say, they play comparable minutes and, while I don't think Rielly hits Werenski's price point, I think a deal worth 8M (which would be 1.6M(ish) less than Zach) is likely for 21/22.

I don't see how this is a controversial opinion.
- mjones242

Seriously, I overestimated the effect of the flat cap on how team would spend.

GM's are back to throwing insane money everywhere.

Seriously, I overestimated the effect of the flat cap on how team would spend.

GM's are back to throwing insane money everywhere.
- Scabeh

Rielly's going to get paid.

Leafs fans have a year to accept this.

But oh Lordy, he's going to get paid.

Rielly's going to get paid.

Leafs fans have a year to accept this.

But oh Lordy, he's going to get paid.
- Atomic Wedgie

7 million x 8 years would be his "home town discount" I think.

What can I say? I'm a masochist.
- mjones242

Hyman got paid, he didn't take a "hometown" discount.. Rielly is gonna get paid..
I think he will ask for, and probably get $8-8.5M per season

If that is really what he wants, the Leafs need to trade him now

Rielly's going to get paid.

Leafs fans have a year to accept this.

But oh Lordy, he's going to get paid.
- Atomic Wedgie

Most likely yes.

7 million x 8 years would be his "home town discount" I think.
- Leafs43

That seems like the low end in my opinion..

I would be surprised if he re-signs here for under $8M per

Seriously, I overestimated the effect of the flat cap on how team would spend.

GM's are back to throwing insane money everywhere.
- Scabeh

A lot of 'Josh Anderson' type deals were done.. Meaning, that they won't age well..

He's underrated by more.
- mjones242

Maybe.

A lot of 'Josh Anderson' type deals were done.. Meaning, that they won't age well..
- PatC80

Exactl...

HEY!

Rielly's going to get paid.

Leafs fans have a year to accept this.

But oh Lordy, he's going to get paid.
- Atomic Wedgie

at this point 8 mil is a "discount" to stay

Exactl...

HEY!

- Scabeh

Meh, LTIR seems to take care of a majority of contracts that don’t age well.

at this point 8 mil is a "discount" to stay
- senstroll

Marner’s hometown discount was bending Dubas over and letting his agent join in for the DP.

😔

That seems like the low end in my opinion..

I would be surprised if he re-signs here for under $8M per
- PatC80

If Rielly stays, I think he has to take something around 7. Maybe 7.5 would work.

If he wants the most $$$ he can get - he can definitely get more elsewhere.

If Rielly stays, I think he has to take something around 7. Maybe 7.5 would work.

If he wants the most $$$ he can get - he can definitely get more elsewhere.
- Leafs43

Would you take 7-7.5 if someone offered you 8-8.5?

Meh, LTIR seems to take care of a majority of contracts that don’t age well.
- Garnie

Crazy how things work out huh?

Would you take 7-7.5 if someone offered you 8-8.5?
- PatC80

That depends what my pyjamas look like.

at this point 8 mil is a "discount" to stay
- senstroll

Same TOI per game as Werenski, Ekblad, Gio, Hedman etc. last 3 seasons.

Can’t see him taking munch of a discount.