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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 2 @ 3:36 PM ET
I am a Ra-chester

My GF is from the area and they pronounce it more like

Ra-chess-ter

It's a subtle distinction but one that exists nevertheless

- Hank Balling

I used to call it ra-cha-cha

The thing that bugged me the most though was ree-see's pee-sees rather than Re-sus Pe-sus
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 3:37 PM ET
Also - beef on weck is overrated!
- rangerdanger94



You're about to get banned for that!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 3:39 PM ET
Also - beef on weck is overrated!
- rangerdanger94

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US6pWjvJJSE
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Aug 2 @ 3:40 PM ET
Who the (frank) likes the Atlantic Ocean? No waves to surf, and too damn cold to swim.
- TaroTsujimoto5


Got half of that right anyways - water temp is in the 80s in the Atlantic right now
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 3:41 PM ET
They each want different surgeries. Given no teams are jumping forward with KA’s asks tells me they’re not comfortable with the risk.

That’s just my read.

- gcomella34


I think Eichel ask for different surgery is to create an unagreeable conflict to force a trade. I dont think the injury is as bad as suggested, and the sabres know that he will be almost 100% after surgery. I also believe that GMKA is fully aware of Jack's worth after the surgery and is willing to wait.

GMKA stood up at a presser (during weekday working hours) and gave a statement. Jack's agents responded at 11:45 Friday night.

Which do you give more legitimacy?

Jack and his team are scumbags. They could have demanded a trade behind the scenes instead of being a female dog in public. They could have been professional about it - after all - the Sabres gave him one of the biggest contracts ever in the NHL for a guy that hadnt made the playoffs, maybe the highest for a guy not making the playoffs...



gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Aug 2 @ 3:42 PM ET
i just realized i put buy instead of bye...
- SabresFaninIndiana


I’ve been drinking on the plane and the sky club didn’t even notice.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 2 @ 3:44 PM ET
They each want different surgeries. Given no teams are jumping forward with KA’s asks tells me they’re not comfortable with the risk.

That’s just my read.

- gcomella34

Agree
Jammerz04
Buffalo Sabres
Location: K, BC
Joined: 01.03.2014

Aug 2 @ 3:45 PM ET
I understand the business side of things from Terry (asking high, expecting somewhere in the middle). But we should really take a step back and ask, why are we funding venues for billionaires who are the only ones that see the profit?

I get that they can hold there county and the city by the cahones and threaten to move the team but it’s really a terrible precedent


If you want professional teams in your city, they come with prices.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Aug 2 @ 3:47 PM ET
I think Eichel ask for different surgery is to create an unagreeable conflict to force a trade. I dont think the injury is as bad as suggested, and the sabres know that he will be almost 100% after surgery. I also believe that GMKA is fully aware of Jack's worth after the surgery and is willing to wait.

GMKA stood up at a presser (during weekday working hours) and gave a statement. Jack's agents responded at 11:45 Friday night.

Which do you give more legitimacy?

Jack and his team are scumbags. They could have demanded a trade behind the scenes instead of being a female dog in public. They could have been professional about it - after all - the Sabres gave him one of the biggest contracts ever in the NHL for a guy that hadnt made the playoffs, maybe the highest for a guy not making the playoffs...

- atlsabsfan


Jacks agent is doing him no favors. It just reeks of desperation.
Jammerz04
Buffalo Sabres
Location: K, BC
Joined: 01.03.2014

Aug 2 @ 3:48 PM ET
I think Eichel ask for different surgery is to create an unagreeable conflict to force a trade. I dont think the injury is as bad as suggested, and the sabres know that he will be almost 100% after surgery. I also believe that GMKA is fully aware of Jack's worth after the surgery and is willing to wait.

GMKA stood up at a presser (during weekday working hours) and gave a statement. Jack's agents responded at 11:45 Friday night.

Which do you give more legitimacy?

Jack and his team are scumbags. They could have demanded a trade behind the scenes instead of being a female dog in public. They could have been professional about it - after all - the Sabres gave him one of the biggest contracts ever in the NHL for a guy that hadnt made the playoffs, maybe the highest for a guy not making the playoffs...

- atlsabsfan


100%

This comment is so on point. So hope he gets absolutely booed so bad when he steps on the ice in or out of a Sabres uniform.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 3:48 PM ET
Jacks agent is doing him no favors. It just reeks of desperation.
- joshs


Yup, I said this on Friday or Saturday morning after I read the statement.

It's his last ditch effort which is only making things worse. Nothing worse when you're bluffing and then doubling down knowing you're beat.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 3:56 PM ET
If you want professional teams in your city, they come with prices.
- Jammerz04

https://www.ticketnews.co...e-of-nearly-70-from-2006/


bills steadily raising their prices under new watch
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
Well I think you guys are also being a little dramatic at some the packages that are being offered. They aren't what Eichel is truly worth when 100% healthy, but they also aren't absolute dogpoop.
- rangerdanger94


Kratzov hasn't scored over a .5 ppg in any league over the MHL. He is considered an "untouchable" by half of the NYR fanbase. I can't remember if you specifically said so or not. If you didn't know what the MHL was without looking it up, you are not alone. That is why you are getting a cantankerous reception here. Don't go the complete other way and offer fox and Laf. Cuz that's also dumb. You say injury and disgruntled bring down price. Ok, not to Kratzov's level as the main piece. Keeping him in the East raises that price a little as well. Or we could just admit that NYR probably isn't going to trade for him.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Aug 2 @ 4:15 PM ET
I think Eichel ask for different surgery is to create an unagreeable conflict to force a trade. I dont think the injury is as bad as suggested, and the sabres know that he will be almost 100% after surgery. I also believe that GMKA is fully aware of Jack's worth after the surgery and is willing to wait.

GMKA stood up at a presser (during weekday working hours) and gave a statement. Jack's agents responded at 11:45 Friday night.

Which do you give more legitimacy?

Jack and his team are scumbags. They could have demanded a trade behind the scenes instead of being a female dog in public. They could have been professional about it - after all - the Sabres gave him one of the biggest contracts ever in the NHL for a guy that hadnt made the playoffs, maybe the highest for a guy not making the playoffs...

- atlsabsfan


Jack's doctor was pretty clear that he wouldn't clear Jack to play right now without one of the two procedures being done. Doctor sounded pretty credible to me in the podcast.

Mind you, I've probably been the most Anti Jack poster on these boards over the last 5 years. A man has a right to make an informed decision about his own body, and it's clear Jack and his family and his team of doctors have made an informed decision.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 4:15 PM ET
Jack's doctor was pretty clear that he wouldn't clear Jack to play right now without one of the two procedures being done. Doctor sounded pretty credible to me in the podcast.
- lacaprup


But Jack is out there playing pick up hockey?

I mean it is different than an actual NHL game, but a trip into the boards can cause a lot of damage
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Aug 2 @ 4:16 PM ET
But Jack is out there playing pick up hockey?

I mean it is different than an actual NHL game, but a trip into the boards can cause a lot of damage

- Stripes77


Young men have been known to make silly decisions over the course of human history.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 2 @ 4:16 PM ET
Jack's doctor was pretty clear that he wouldn't clear Jack to play right now without one of the two procedures being done. Doctor sounded pretty credible to me in the podcast.
- lacaprup



Then he shouldn’t be playing pick up hockey.

A million things can go wrong.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Aug 2 @ 4:18 PM ET
Then he shouldn’t be playing pick up hockey.

A million things can go wrong.

- dadeadhead


I absolutely agree with that however that does not violate his human right to make an informed decision about his own health
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 4:18 PM ET
Young men have been known to make silly decisions over the course of human history.
- lacaprup



For sure but this is the second time in less than a week he has been out there, you would think someone would say something to him...you know like his agent lol
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Aug 2 @ 4:19 PM ET
I absolutely agree with that however that does not violate his human right to make an informed decision about his own health
- lacaprup


The issue is the players bargained away that right and gave it to the team for things like guaranteed contracts.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 4:20 PM ET
I absolutely agree with that however that does not violate his human right to make an informed decision about his own health
- lacaprup


This needs to stop

It is in the CBA, it is in his contract which he knowingly signed.

There is no basic human rights violation.

He has his right to a second opinion, he went that route. He can file for medical arbitration, but hasn't done so.


lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Aug 2 @ 4:20 PM ET
For sure but this is the second time in less than a week he has been out there, you would think someone would say something to him...you know like his agent lol
- Stripes77


I just cannot believe any team of people would put up the pretense of such a serious injury if it weren't absolutely true. If Jack eichel suddenly doesn't need one of the two surgeries after his trade from Buffalo his reputation his agents reputation his doctors reputation not to mention his medical license would all suffer irreparable damage in my opinion.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 2 @ 4:20 PM ET
I absolutely agree with that however that does not violate his human right to make an informed decision about his own health
- lacaprup



Then he shouldn’t have signed a contract giving away his right.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 2 @ 4:21 PM ET
The issue is the players bargained away that right and gave it to the team for things like guaranteed contracts.
- gcomella34

A NHL Contract does, and he knows about it.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Aug 2 @ 4:22 PM ET
This needs to stop

It is in the CBA, it is in his contract which he knowingly signed.

There is no basic human rights violation.

He has his right to a second opinion, he went that route. He can file for medical arbitration, but hasn't done so.

- Stripes77


Here's the thing about human rights, they can't be bargained away whether your name is on a piece of paper or not. I'm not disputing the Buffalo Sabres legal position, I'm saying jack eichel is not going to have a surgery he doesn't want and he can't be forced into it. He's going to have the medical procedure he wants at some point and the Sabres have no way to prevent it
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