So he has signed 4 players who were free agents currently on the roster. 50% have a NTC. Is that a good % in your opinion?

My bad Yandle doesn't count right?
- hello it's me 2050

The thing about yandles is it doesn’t matter. 900k doesn’t hurt much. Hayes contract changes terms this summer. He wanted to be protected from seattle.

The thing about yandles is it doesn’t matter. 900k doesn’t hurt much. Hayes contract changes terms this summer. He wanted to be protected from seattle.
- Peter Richards

Yandle only signed for so low with the condition of having the NTC to allow him to pick where he would go if CF wanted to trade him at the deadline

up to 49 contracts after RFAs sign - we never leave room for ourselves it seems

Do you believe the flyers will be legit cup contenders in the next 4 years?
- hello it's me 2050

I think in the next 24-36 months with the right moves and cap management they will have a shot at a cup. This year? no not really, they would have to catch lighting in a bottle

up to 49 contracts after RFAs sign - we never leave room for ourselves it seems
- Bayareaflyer

According to Cap Friendly 45/50 contracts with just Hart and Sanheim to sign.

According to Cap Friendly 45/50 contracts with just Hart and Sanheim to sign.
- peesinwind

Don't forget Bunnaman. Kase will slide because he's playing in Europe.

Barring trades, the Flyers are theoretically at 48 contracts. They will probably sign an AHL goalie, so they will have a contract slot to utilize during the season if deemed necessary.

I like the idea of saving that spot for signing a player off of a PTO or a trade if the team starts off poorly.

I was reading an article grading the the Flyers 3 big trades this off season. Here are my grades for these trades. What say you all?

1. Ellis for Myers, Patrick: A
2. Risto - 2021 1st round pick, 2023 2nd round pick, Robert Hagg: B-
3. Atkinson for Voracek: A+
- jd250

The one thing I haven’t been able to understand is why the Preds would trade Ellis for such a nominal return. Earlier today, I posed that question on the Preds HB blog. The analysis from the Preds side gave me a more balanced view of the trade.

I was reading an article grading the the Flyers 3 big trades this off season. Here are my grades for these trades. What say you all?

1. Ellis for Myers, Patrick: A
2. Risto - 2021 1st round pick, 2023 2nd round pick, Robert Hagg: B-
3. Atkinson for Voracek: A+
- jd250

1. Incomplete grade. Can Ellis stay healthy and not heavily decline? Will Myers flourish in NSH? Will Patrick/Glass get their poop together? This one could go from A to a straight F depending on when you revisit it.

2. Stone cold F. The trade cost was too high. The eventual contract extension will be too much. To top it all off, Risto is a POS. This is another AMac, but likely worse. Coach will play him too much, the GM will be hamstrung, fans will despair sooner than later. In 2-3 years time, nobody will be defending this trade.

3. Also an incomplete grade. Voracek is the better player right now. If Atkinson can rekindle his scoring touch, this could be a passing grade. If not, CF saddled himself with an additional year of contract and is stuck with an expensive dime-a-dozen middle-six winger.

The one thing I haven’t been able to understand is why the Preds would trade Ellis for such a nominal return. Earlier today, I posed that question on the Preds HB blog. The analysis from the Preds side gave me a more balanced view of the trade.
- Minnyhock

Why did they say the trade value was even? Pretty high value of Myers or Glass? What gave it balance?

Why did they say the trade value was even? Pretty high value of Myers or Glass? What gave it balance?
- peesinwind

In a nutshell: Ellis lack of size exposed in POs, not as effective as before, Poile trading him while he still has value instead of waiting until he was unmovable.

Myers is the big replacement they're looking for.

1. Incomplete grade. Can Ellis stay healthy and not heavily decline? Will Myers flourish in NSH? Will Patrick/Glass get their poop together? This one could go from A to a straight F depending on when you revisit it.

2. Stone cold F. The trade cost was too high. The eventual contract extension will be too much. To top it all off, Risto is a POS. This is another AMac, but likely worse. Coach will play him too much, the GM will be hamstrung, fans will despair sooner than later. In 2-3 years time, nobody will be defending this trade.

3. Also an incomplete grade. Voracek is the better player right now. If Atkinson can rekindle his scoring touch, this could be a passing grade. If not, CF saddled himself with an additional year of contract and is stuck with an expensive dime-a-dozen middle-six winger.
- Tomahawk

😂 you are so negative. Chicken Little.

Incomplete grades. Haha. This is every trade in the NHL...heck...every pro sports trade.

Not questioning your concerns though. Just glad your weren’t my 10th grade English teacher. I would have never passed.

1. Incomplete grade. Can Ellis stay healthy and not heavily decline? Will Myers flourish in NSH? Will Patrick/Glass get their poop together? This one could go from A to a straight F depending on when you revisit it.

2. Stone cold F. The trade cost was too high. The eventual contract extension will be too much. To top it all off, Risto is a POS. This is another AMac, but likely worse. Coach will play him too much, the GM will be hamstrung, fans will despair sooner than later. In 2-3 years time, nobody will be defending this trade.

3. Also an incomplete grade. Voracek is the better player right now. If Atkinson can rekindle his scoring touch, this could be a passing grade. If not, CF saddled himself with an additional year of contract and is stuck with an expensive dime-a-dozen middle-six winger.
- Tomahawk

😂 you are so negative. Chicken Little.

Incomplete grades. Haha. This is every trade in the NHL...heck...every pro sports trade.

Not questioning your concerns though. Just glad your weren’t my 10th grade English teacher. I would have never passed.

1. Incomplete grade. Can Ellis stay healthy and not heavily decline? Will Myers flourish in NSH? Will Patrick/Glass get their poop together? This one could go from A to a straight F depending on when you revisit it.

2. Stone cold F. The trade cost was too high. The eventual contract extension will be too much. To top it all off, Risto is a POS. This is another AMac, but likely worse. Coach will play him too much, the GM will be hamstrung, fans will despair sooner than later. In 2-3 years time, nobody will be defending this trade.

3. Also an incomplete grade. Voracek is the better player right now. If Atkinson can rekindle his scoring touch, this could be a passing grade. If not, CF saddled himself with an additional year of contract and is stuck with an expensive dime-a-dozen middle-six winger.
- Tomahawk

😂 you are so negative. Chicken Little.

Incomplete grades. Haha. This is every trade in the NHL...heck...every pro sports trade.

Not questioning your concerns though. Just glad your weren’t my 10th grade English teacher. I would have never passed.

I was reading an article grading the the Flyers 3 big trades this off season. Here are my grades for these trades. What say you all?

1. Ellis for Myers, Patrick: A
2. Risto - 2021 1st round pick, 2023 2nd round pick, Robert Hagg: B-
3. Atkinson for Voracek: A+
- jd250

1. Ellis trade A+. RHD for the top pair. Love this trade. This will be the best our top pair has been for 11 years. Plus I think this will be a good match. Gave up some young talent yet the gain was terrific.

2. Risto - C- he has a lot to prove but only giving up picks with Hagg not a camp let’s yuck. Just has a lot of uncertainty on my part.

3. Atkinson trade B. Well it opened up cap space for 3 years but added some in year 4. Lost a very good offensive set up guy. But I think Atkinson is scrappy and can play better D. I like the trade overall. But not a solid win.

1. Incomplete grade. Can Ellis stay healthy and not heavily decline? Will Myers flourish in NSH? Will Patrick/Glass get their poop together? This one could go from A to a straight F depending on when you revisit it.

2. Stone cold F. The trade cost was too high. The eventual contract extension will be too much. To top it all off, Risto is a POS. This is another AMac, but likely worse. Coach will play him too much, the GM will be hamstrung, fans will despair sooner than later. In 2-3 years time, nobody will be defending this trade.

3. Also an incomplete grade. Voracek is the better player right now. If Atkinson can rekindle his scoring touch, this could be a passing grade. If not, CF saddled himself with an additional year of contract and is stuck with an expensive dime-a-dozen middle-six winger.
- Tomahawk

Ok so Chuckles didn't kill it in the trade market. A+ in free agency tho right?

1. Incomplete grade. Can Ellis stay healthy and not heavily decline? Will Myers flourish in NSH? Will Patrick/Glass get their poop together? This one could go from A to a straight F depending on when you revisit it.

2. Stone cold F. The trade cost was too high. The eventual contract extension will be too much. To top it all off, Risto is a POS. This is another AMac, but likely worse. Coach will play him too much, the GM will be hamstrung, fans will despair sooner than later. In 2-3 years time, nobody will be defending this trade.

3. Also an incomplete grade. Voracek is the better player right now. If Atkinson can rekindle his scoring touch, this could be a passing grade. If not, CF saddled himself with an additional year of contract and is stuck with an expensive dime-a-dozen middle-six winger.
- Tomahawk

if meyers turns out good, and risto has bad analytics and jake has more points that atkinson, but the flyersr are much better......are those trades graded as F's?. To me they would be A's if we are much improved, but some will judge player vs player

Can we all please stop pencilling g in at top line lw.

That’s bees spot. Put g with frost at 3c on 3rd line to teach frost


Thank you in advance
- Stayin alive

Stop calling giroux g

(frank) you in advance
- Stayin alive

What am I reading here? Giroux is a top line player. Also his nickname comes from his teammates.

The one thing I haven’t been able to understand is why the Preds would trade Ellis for such a nominal return. Earlier today, I posed that question on the Preds HB blog. The analysis from the Preds side gave me a more balanced view of the trade.
- Minnyhock

And their side is?

Ok so Chuckles didn't kill it in the trade market. A+ in free agency tho right?
- PLindbergh31

Please name me the last GM of the Flyers that you actually liked and were not critical of?

1. Incomplete grade. Can Ellis stay healthy and not heavily decline? Will Myers flourish in NSH? Will Patrick/Glass get their poop together? This one could go from A to a straight F depending on when you revisit it.

2. Stone cold F. The trade cost was too high. The eventual contract extension will be too much. To top it all off, Risto is a POS. This is another AMac, but likely worse. Coach will play him too much, the GM will be hamstrung, fans will despair sooner than later. In 2-3 years time, nobody will be defending this trade.

3. Also an incomplete grade. Voracek is the better player right now. If Atkinson can rekindle his scoring touch, this could be a passing grade. If not, CF saddled himself with an additional year of contract and is stuck with an expensive dime-a-dozen middle-six winger.
- Tomahawk

I like the Rasmus Ristolainen trade the most. He has all the tools, just a matter of putting it all together. Only 26. I truly believe Ristolainen will end up next to Provorov. I think Travis Sanheim is more in need for a D-partner like Ellis, than Provorov.

The Elllis trade comes in second because I think we’re talking him up too much and his health is a concern. He’s a very, very good player but putting him in talks of being the next Kimmo Timonen is unfair, starting with Kimmo being an Iron man.

The Atkinson trades comes in third. Atkinson doesn’t change the element of the forwards alone. We’re pretty much the same with Atkinson filling one spot.

Yandle is a OK move. I can take it or leave it.

I don’t hate Thompson but common, you couldn’t do better, fletch?

Please name me the last GM of the Flyers that you actually liked and were not critical of?
- jd250

Outside of Keith Allen, and Clarke's first tenure, they've all been pretty underwhelming. Clarke's second tenure had some positives, but I lost respect for him the way he handled the situation with Roger Nielson.

I like the Rasmus Ristolainen trade the most. He has all the tools, just a matter of putting it all together. Only 26. I truly believe Ristolainen will end up next to Provorov. I think Travis Sanheim is more in need for a D-partner like Ellis, than Provorov.

The Elllis trade comes in second because I think we’re talking him up too much and his health is a concern. He’s a very, very good player but putting him in talks of being the next Kimmo Timonen is unfair, starting with Kimmo being an Iron man.

The Atkinson trades comes in third. Atkinson doesn’t change the element of the forwards alone. We’re pretty much the same with Atkinson filling one spot.

Yandle is a OK move. I can take it or leave it.

I don’t hate Thompson but common, you couldn’t do better, fletch?
- SuperSchennBros

i think atkinson changes that whole line, he plays a totally differet game than jake. Im sxcited to see it

Outside of Keith Allen, and Clarke's first tenure, they've all been pretty underwhelming. Clarke's second tenure had some positives, but I lost respect for him the way he handled the situation with Roger Nielson.
- PLindbergh31

I liked Paul Holmgren a lot actually. You have an aviator or Paul Holmgren next to your name. Why don’t you say Paul Holmgren?

And their side is?
- jd250

The Canes exploited Ellis’ lack of size in the playoffs. Myers is a bigger, younger replacement for Ellis. Ellis is less effective on the power play than years prior. They compared it to the Weber trade. Move him1-2 years early while his value is relatively high so they don’t get stuck with with him being immovable like they did with Johansson and Duchene.

The Canes exploited Ellis’ lack of size in the playoffs. Myers is a bigger, younger replacement for Ellis. Ellis is less effective on the power play than years prior. They compared it to the Weber trade. Move him1-2 years early while his value is relatively high so they don’t get stuck with with him being immovable like they did with Johansson and Duchene.
- Minnyhock

Let it be known they lost the Weber trade