Braden Schneider isn't even 20 years old yet and played 24 hockey games last year

he needs to play, and play big minutes in 2021-22
- jimbro83

Yes, in Junior, or in the AHL. Anyplace that isn't with the Rangers. NHL experience is what earns the pay day. Going to have to hold players back like MLB teams do so we can maximize our window.

"I don't think Chris Drury is done by any stretch of the imagination."

—
@FriedgeHNIC
on #NYR off-season

Okay, so let's forget the Eichel crap for now

We need a 2C and Drury knows this. Likely it's coming from the west. Who would we target besides Dvorak from Arizona. I'm thinking Horvat...

Okay, so let's forget the Eichel crap for now

We need a 2C and Drury knows this. Likely it's coming from the west. Who would we target besides Dvorak from Arizona. I'm thinking Horvat...
- MeltingPlastic

There is as much chance of us moving Lafreniere as there is of Vancouver moving Horvat, IMO.

There is as much chance of us moving Lafreniere as there is of Vancouver moving Horvat, IMO.
- Tonybere

If I'm emptying the coffers for Eichel, I'd rather do it for Horvat... But I agree it's a long shot

Okay, so let's forget the Eichel crap for now

We need a 2C and Drury knows this. Likely it's coming from the west. Who would we target besides Dvorak from Arizona. I'm thinking Horvat...
- MeltingPlastic

Josh Norris
Will be costly, but a much better investment than Eichel.

Take the height of defenseman stat for how you want, I take it as in order to be successful in the playoffs you need bigger defenseman that are able to clear a crease/hit etc. You guys want to take it as stats/trends are meant to be broken? Ok, we’ll see. I think 1 out of 21 cup winners is pretty strong evidence but we’ll see.

Josh Norris
Will be costly, but a much better investment than Eichel.
- TommyGTrain

I think Norris is a great target, not sure OTT trades him though. He could go right into that 2C spot and not skip a beat. Strome and Krav for Norris and a 2nd?

Take the height of defenseman stat for how you want, I take it as in order to be successful in the playoffs you need bigger defenseman that are able to clear a crease/hit etc. You guys want to take it as stats/trends are meant to be broken? Ok, we’ll see. I think 1 out of 21 cup winners is pretty strong evidence but we’ll see.
- nyrangers9479

So a defense that featured Fox and Makar would be doomed

There is absolutely no way I include Kakko in any deal for Eichel, even a healthy Eichel. He cried about his coach, they fired him. They cried he wasn’t captain, they made him captain. The kid is an entitled punk. Stay away.

I can’t believe we didn’t offer more for Ritchie after seeing him sign for what he signed for. He would’ve been a perfect addition that could play on line 1 or line 4, I think that was a big miss by Drury.
- nyrangers9479

You're delusional. You're not getting Eichel for pennies on the dollar.

You're delusional. You're not getting Eichel for pennies on the dollar.
- Kinsella13

Read! He doesn’t want him full stop . Called Eichel whiney

Take the height of defenseman stat for how you want, I take it as in order to be successful in the playoffs you need bigger defenseman that are able to clear a crease/hit etc. You guys want to take it as stats/trends are meant to be broken? Ok, we’ll see. I think 1 out of 21 cup winners is pretty strong evidence but we’ll see.
- nyrangers9479

it doesn't matter, none of this is any proof that the Rangers are looking to trade Lundkvist

signing Nemeth is proof that its the last thing they are thinking about

Im sorry but I still dont see the need to trade 4-5 assets to Buffalo for a player we have no idea if he can play at all! No med records, no communication between player and team so who's hiding certain information? I think we have the pieces we need to contend. They need to be put in the correct situation. Zibanejad needs to center Kaako & Lafreniere, Cyhtil needs to center Panarin & Kravtsov, Strome can center Goodrow and Kreider then you have either Barron or Rooney centering Reeves and Blais. Also, I know they probably start in Harftord but would love to see Cuylle, Robertson and Braden Schider get a shot at the big club. I know we have Nemeth and Tinordi, but the Dmen are big mean and nasty, just the way Jeff Gorton was building towards. Stay in Buffalo Jack, or go to LA, Vegas, anywhere but here!

it doesn't matter, none of this is any proof that the Rangers are looking to trade Lundkvist

signing Nemeth is proof that its the last thing they are thinking about
- jimbro83

I never once said they’re looking to trade him. I said they SHOULD be looking to trade him. My reasons are number 1 his size, number 2 we’d be dealing from a position of strength, our depth on the right side looks promising with Schneider maybe a year out. I understand he’s most likely being dealt right now, but I’d rather trade a guy like Nils than Kravtsov.

Tony D is only listed at 5’11, why didn’t you make this whole argument for him? You seemed fine to have him and Fox long term lol

That one inch for Nils is really the difference lol
- TPC

We’re getting into a TonyD debate? Or just guna leave it alone so we don’t drag it on for 7 pages? The stats would support you couldn’t have TonyD and Fox come playoff time, the only argument would be TonyD plays a physical game more built for the playoffs vs Nils playing a soft finesse game more built for the regular season. I’m willing to leave it at that or we can drag it on for 5 more pages

If I'm emptying the coffers for Eichel, I'd rather do it for Horvat... But I agree it's a long shot
- MeltingPlastic

Was thinking about the OG hockey buzz boys and I forgot plastic. My bad Plastic!

One of two dudes I met in real life. Plastic at a Rancid show and Jan at a Ranger/Thrashers game.

Was thinking about the OG hockey buzz boys and I forgot plastic. My bad Plastic!

One of two dudes I met in real life. Plastic at a Rancid show and Jan at a Ranger/Thrashers game.
- evitageN

It's all good man, I don't post as much since HB is blocked at work and some of the BS arguments here are childish lol

I never once said they’re looking to trade him. I said they SHOULD be looking to trade him. My reasons are number 1 his size, number 2 we’d be dealing from a position of strength, our depth on the right side looks promising with Schneider maybe a year out. I understand he’s most likely being dealt right now, but I’d rather trade a guy like Nils than Kravtsov.
- nyrangers9479

yep, I think I have read your reasoning a time or two

so you don't believe signing Nemeth to a three year deal, which coincides EXACTLY with Lundkvist's entry level deal means anything?

yep, I think I have read your reasoning a time or two

so you don't believe signing Nemeth to a three year deal, which coincides EXACTLY with Lundkvist's entry level deal means anything?
- jimbro83

Personally, I think it means as much as trading for Trouba because him and Skjei were buddies.

Sure, at the start it seemed like a match made in heaven. But things change, and just because Nemeth is here for 3 years, doesn't mean Lundkvist can't be traded if the right opportunity presents itself.

yep, I think I have read your reasoning a time or two

so you don't believe signing Nemeth to a three year deal, which coincides EXACTLY with Lundkvist's entry level deal means anything?
- jimbro83

So you look at that and say Schneider is 4 years away? Bc if you think Nils is here all 3 years Schneider won’t suit up until the 2024-2025 season. I think Nemeth is there regardless of if his partner is from his home country or not.

Personally, I think it means as much as trading for Trouba because him and Skjei were buddies.

Sure, at the start it seemed like a match made in heaven. But things change, and just because Nemeth is here for 3 years, doesn't mean Lundkvist can't be traded if the right opportunity presents itself.
- rangerdanger94

well it's different than that because Lundkvist is coming from over seas and Nemeth is a mentor for him to make the transition to North America easier

Lundkvist is the reason for Nemeth

acquiring Trouba had nothing to do with Skjei being his friend

Personally, I think it means as much as trading for Trouba because him and Skjei were buddies.

Sure, at the start it seemed like a match made in heaven. But things change, and just because Nemeth is here for 3 years, doesn't mean Lundkvist can't be traded if the right opportunity presents itself.
- rangerdanger94

I think everyone thinks Nils could be traded in certain circumstances, we just don't think he has to be traded. I'm all for trading him for the right player. The position of strength argument is valid.

So you look at that and say Schneider is 4 years away? Bc if you think Nils is here all 3 years Schneider won’t suit up until the 2024-2025 season. I think Nemeth is there regardless of if his partner is from his home country or not.
- nyrangers9479

this either it's Schneider or Lundkvist thing is all in your head

there's no reason anyone has to choose yet

Schneider was drafted two years after Nils and didn't play a lot of hockey last year

Nils time is now, this doesn't have to be decided yet

well it's different than that because Lundkvist is coming from over seas and Nemeth is a mentor for him to make the transition to North America easier

Lundkvist is the reason for Nemeth

acquiring Trouba had nothing to do with Skjei being his friend
- jimbro83

I don't necessarily agree with that.

Nemeth fits the same build as every other player we brought in: big, physical, hard to play against.

I think the fact that he is also Swedish and can help mentor Nils is an added bonus, but if Nils wasn't a Ranger, I could still see them bringing in Nemeth as that's just the type of player the Rangers have been trying to add all offseason.

I don't necessarily agree with that.

Nemeth fits the same build as every other player we brought in: big, physical, hard to play against.

I think the fact that he is also Swedish and can help mentor Nils is an added bonus, but if Nils wasn't a Ranger, I could still see them bringing in Nemeth as that's just the type of player the Rangers have been trying to add all offseason.
- rangerdanger94

I don't agree, I don't think they would have signed Nemeth to 3 years without Nils in mind