Waaaay too much!
- TommyGTrain

I get not wanting to do that for several reasons. There's just no real goalposts to compare a center that good, that young getting traded. Mika, was nowhere near as "good" as Eichel was at a comparable age, and he cost a borderline star player.

What you'd hope for is that the team is good with Eichel, and those draft picks are in the late 20s (or better yet the 30s!) and that they become big nothing burgers.

I get not wanting to do that for several reasons. There's just no real goalposts to compare a center that good, that young getting traded. Mika, was nowhere near as "good" as Eichel was at a comparable age, and he cost a borderline star player.

What you'd hope for is that the team is good with Eichel, and those draft picks are in the late 20s (or better yet the 30s!) and that they become big nothing burgers.
- 2sticks1puck

For me, the kicker is Miller, not the two firsts.

People want to trade him because Robertson is his replacement. How about both Miller and Robertson on the same team? Isn’t that better?

Nemeth was signed for three years. I bet Robertson spends two years in Hartford and in that third year Robertson and Nemeth split time. Nemeth comes off the books, Robertson steps in full time. Boom.

- Michael Pachla

Very upset I couldn't find a clip of the chickie run from High School High to reply with

For me, the kicker is Miller, not the two firsts.

People want to trade him because Robertson is his replacement. How about both Miller and Robertson on the same team? Isn’t that better?

Nemeth was signed for three years. I bet Robertson spends two years in Hartford and in that third year Robertson and Nemeth split time. Nemeth comes off the books, Robertson steps in full time. Boom.
- Bean_Dip

We need to have this mindset with all our young assets. People want to see Schneider this year, why? Being able to keep people on ELC's and staggering when we bring the youth in is what is going to keep this window we have open the longest.

One of the reason Reilly Smith's name is all over the rumor mill is because Gerard Gallant loves him." —
@FriedgeHNIC


"Loved him in FLA, loved him in VGK. I don't think it would surprise anybody if Reilly Smith ends up a member of the #NYR." —
@JeffMarek
10:16 AM · Aug 2, 2021·Twitter Web App

Here is an analogy proving how silly all of this attention for Eichel really is:

You are out shopping for a home to purchase. You find a great house and make an offer.

The homeowner says: Just want to let you know, there is a large crack in the foundation of the house. The local building inspector says there are 2 very different approaches to repairing the foundation, but we are unsure which one to perform at this time. Its entirely possible that the house will be condemned and you won't be able to live in it if the foundation repair fails.
So we are going to give you a slight discount on the purchase price if you buy now and before you attempt the repair. But the good news is --- if you can't fix it, you won't be fully responsible for the $10 million annual taxes due for the next 5 years.

Now what person in their right mind even MAKES AN OFFER?
This is the Jack Eichel saga.....

We need to have this mindset with all our young assets. People want to see Schneider this year, why? Being able to keep people on ELC's and staggering when we bring the youth in is what is going to keep this window we have open the longest.
- newenglandpuck

Braden Schneider isn't even 20 years old yet and played 24 hockey games last year

he needs to play, and play big minutes in 2021-22

One of the reason Reilly Smith's name is all over the rumor mill is because Gerard Gallant loves him." —
@FriedgeHNIC


"Loved him in FLA, loved him in VGK. I don't think it would surprise anybody if Reilly Smith ends up a member of the #NYR." —
@JeffMarek
10:16 AM · Aug 2, 2021·Twitter Web App
- jimbro83

Going to play 12 wingers, no centers next season

One of the reason Reilly Smith's name is all over the rumor mill is because Gerard Gallant loves him." —
@FriedgeHNIC


"Loved him in FLA, loved him in VGK. I don't think it would surprise anybody if Reilly Smith ends up a member of the #NYR." —
@JeffMarek
10:16 AM · Aug 2, 2021·Twitter Web App
- jimbro83

Strome for Smith after we acquire Eichel?

Strome for Smith after we acquire Eichel?
- rangerdanger94

I was thinking Strome for Smith in some way

Waaaay too much!
- TommyGTrain

Haha the sabres thread says "easy pass" on that package.

It's like they think Eichel's value is him coming off a 40 goal, 100 point season, 100% fully healthy, and without any public circus that is essentially forcing the Sabres to either pay him $10 mil to sit in the press box or trade him for the best package available by a certain deadline.

I was thinking Strome for Smith in some way
- jimbro83

If we get Eichel and trade a center, I want it to be Chytil and not Strome. I do think Strome is the perfect 3C on this team in this scenario: he already has a proven chemistry and production with your best players. He's also signed for only 1 year. You either see if he takes a discount to continue playing here, or you cut ties with him and hope by that time that Barron is ready to assume that role.

my favorite Buffalo Sabres thing of all is that they actually sell B.S. hats





- jimbro83

This is what happens when the Pegulas let their kids run the show.

Waaaay too much!
- TommyGTrain

an excellent d-prospect, a young second-pairing defenseman and two firsts which will probably end up in the high-teens at best is waaaaaayyy too much for a no. 1 center?

If we get Eichel and trade a center, I want it to be Chytil and not Strome. I do think Strome is the perfect 3C on this team in this scenario: he already has a proven chemistry and production with your best players. He's also signed for only 1 year. You either see if he takes a discount to continue playing here, or you cut ties with him and hope by that time that Barron is ready to assume that role.
- 2sticks1puck

I think a trade like Strome for Reilly Smith can happen without Eichel happenng

If Gallant loves Smith that much, both of these players have 1 year left until they are UFA's, it makes sense, and gives Vegas a little bit more cap space and they need all they can get

I think a trade like Strome for Reilly Smith can happen without Eichel happenng

If Gallant loves Smith that much, both of these players have 1 year left until they are UFA's, it makes sense, and gives Vegas a little bit more cap space and they need all they can get
- jimbro83

then who plays 2c?

an excellent d-prospect, a young second-pairing defenseman and two firsts which will probably end up in the high-teens at best is waaaaaayyy too much for a no. 1 center?
- Michael Pachla

Its a reasonable offer ( perhaps even light ) ---- if he was 100% healthy, which he is NOT!

then who plays 2c?
- picklerick

probably Chytil, then Goodrow, then Rooney if nothing else changed

but I still don't think they'd be done anyway

probably Chytil, then Goodrow, then Rooney if nothing else changed

but I still don't think they'd be done anyway
- jimbro83

Maybe Barron can step up to 3C

Maybe Barron can step up to 3C
- rangerdanger94

I think it's all about getting players that Gallant wants now, how all the pieces fit wont be determined just yet

Its a reasonable offer ( perhaps even light ) ---- if he was 100% healthy, which he is NOT!
- TommyGTrain

point taken, although i think it's reasonable in any case, simply because the rangers are giving up futures other than miller...won't hurt their core

Bc he’s 5’10 and we’re not trading Fox. The stats speak for themselves, Fox is 5’11 Nils is 5’10, out of the last 21 Stanley Cup winners only 1 has had 2 defenseman under 6’. It’s not a recipe for success.
- nyrangers9479

What if in 2008 Detroit said you know what, no European captain has ever won the Stanley Cup, we need to trade/remove the captaincy from Lidstrom? Or in 2018 in the Capitals said that no Russian captain has ever won the Cup so lets do the same with Ovechkin. Or what if the Penguins said that a rookie goalie hadn't won the cup since Cam Ward in 2006 so let's keep playing Fleury over Matt Murray.

I'm not saying Nils is Lidstrom or Ovechkin, my point is that stats like that are meant to be broken and we should probably wait to see what kind of player Nils is before shipping him off because he's 2 inches too short. Also, Nils is listed in a lot of places at 5' 11". I see him listed some places at 5' 10" too also but I have a feeling if you were making an argument to keep him you'd be using the 5' 11" figure.

What if in 2008 Detroit said you know what, no European captain has ever won the Stanley Cup, we need to trade/remove the captaincy from Lidstrom? Or in 2018 in the Capitals said that no Russian captain has ever won the Cup so lets do the same with Ovechkin. Or what if the Penguins said that a rookie goalie hadn't won the cup since Cam Ward in 2006 so let's keep playing Fleury over Matt Murray.

I'm not saying Nils is Lidstrom or Ovechkin, my point is that stats like that are meant to be broken and we should probably wait to see what kind of player Nils is before shipping him off because he's 2 inches too short. Also, Nils is listed in a lot of places at 5' 11". I see him listed some places at 5' 10" too also but I have a feeling if you were making an argument to keep him you'd be using the 5' 11" figure.
- SkjeiStadium

And Fox (and Panarin) avoid taking a direct checks better than anyone I see in the league. Wear down seems unlikely

What if in 2008 Detroit said you know what, no European captain has ever won the Stanley Cup, we need to trade/remove the captaincy from Lidstrom? Or in 2018 in the Capitals said that no Russian captain has ever won the Cup so lets do the same with Ovechkin. Or what if the Penguins said that a rookie goalie hadn't won the cup since Cam Ward in 2006 so let's keep playing Fleury over Matt Murray.

I'm not saying Nils is Lidstrom or Ovechkin, my point is that stats like that are meant to be broken and we should probably wait to see what kind of player Nils is before shipping him off because he's 2 inches too short. Also, Nils is listed in a lot of places at 5' 11". I see him listed some places at 5' 10" too also but I have a feeling if you were making an argument to keep him you'd be using the 5' 11" figure.
- SkjeiStadium

What if in 2008 Detroit said you know what, no European captain has ever won the Stanley Cup, we need to trade/remove the captaincy from Lidstrom? Or in 2018 in the Capitals said that no Russian captain has ever won the Cup so lets do the same with Ovechkin. Or what if the Penguins said that a rookie goalie hadn't won the cup since Cam Ward in 2006 so let's keep playing Fleury over Matt Murray.

I'm not saying Nils is Lidstrom or Ovechkin, my point is that stats like that are meant to be broken and we should probably wait to see what kind of player Nils is before shipping him off because he's 2 inches too short. Also, Nils is listed in a lot of places at 5' 11". I see him listed some places at 5' 10" too also but I have a feeling if you were making an argument to keep him you'd be using the 5' 11" figure.
- SkjeiStadium

Height is a physical attribute though, that probably does have an impact to some degree. A bit different than the birthplace of a captain or age of a goalie.

I just can’t get past the fact that height of the defense is an incomplete lens. It’s a valid point, but not one to base roster decisions on.

In this scenario, if our hulking bottom 6 becomes one of the best forechecking teams in the league, I want an offensive dynamo like Nils on the blue line to snipe some goals when he gets dished the puck. Not a tall guy who may or may not be fit for the “rough style of the playoffs”.