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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 1 @ 2:19 PM ET
Financial concerns would be alleviated

Damage to the franchise would not be.

Bad surgery would = no trade return

Rules in place for the team doctor to decide.
Why break the rules and favor the player?

- Boss34


His body...THAT trumps bad look for Franchise
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 2:21 PM ET
he holds out and doesn't show up at camp
- homiedclown


Shows up, fails his physical and goes home and collects his paycheck from his couch
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 1 @ 2:21 PM ET
he holds out and doesn't show up at camp
- homiedclown


Yeah, it's all fun and games until Jackie misses a paycheck.

He's gonna fake injury over losing $

If he sits out, he's gonna be in buffalo for 6 years potentially 😀
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 2:22 PM ET
That's the most common sense thing. Letting jack sit/ get healthy to maximize return and really let everyone know kAgM is in charge . No bag of burglands....
- Boss34

yup

returns suck, do nothing


he will pout and be a no show for training camp and maybe around Jan show up and ready to go

then move him when return is better



or dump him now to the worst place outside of buffalo which would be arizona, the habs or the sens
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 2:23 PM ET
Shows up, fails his physical and goes home and collects his paycheck from his couch
- TheGame316

from what i heard, he would pass a physical based on the pick up game
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 1 @ 2:24 PM ET
His body...THAT trumps bad look for Franchise
- IonSabres


Technically his body his choice, but realistically he's under a contract that states exactly what choice he has.

Which is listen to the team doctors.

Bad look also isnt including bad asset management.

Sure were off the hook for $50 million, but he is a tremendous asset for this franchise.
Can't risk that coming off 4/8 last place finishes
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
yup

returns suck, do nothing


he will pout and be a no show for training camp and maybe around Jan show up and ready to go

then move him when return is better



or dump him now to the worst place outside of buffalo which would be arizona, the habs or the sens

- homiedclown


Spicy take
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Aug 1 @ 2:36 PM ET
Here's what I don't get...WTF is wrong with just signing Zibs for the 10 mil....he's a damn good player and the odds are zero the Sabres are holding and the Rags aren't going to keep both Zibs and Eichel or they will be entering Toronto territory of tying up to almost 50% cap in 4 players.
- Leninthebuff


He’s no Eichel and not good enough. He’s average 1C and a really great 2C
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 1 @ 2:37 PM ET
yup

returns suck, do nothing


he will pout and be a no show for training camp and maybe around Jan show up and ready to go

then move him when return is better



or dump him now to the worst place outside of buffalo which would be arizona, the habs or the sens

- homiedclown



If we could just be competitive and in the hunt thru January, maybe he has no choice but to dress and play.

If there's been 1 talent in buffalo Sabres history to not give up "too early" on its eichel.

His age, his position, his controlled contract.....

Terry the fan is having a tough time getting rid of eichel.

I bet it's an expensive time of the year at pse and terry just came into some big bills I'm the mail. With no real revenue coming in. Reality.

Similar to my shell shock of opening my season ticket invoice. Made me instantly want to keep jack.

If they trade eichel, it's at least 3 more years of losing.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 1 @ 2:39 PM ET
He’s no Eichel and not good enough. He’s average 1C and a really great 2C
- Sabretooth9


This is spot on. Zib is worth $7.5-$8m max. He’ll be 29 and has had 6 concussions
TaroTsujimoto5
Location: Finding Secrets
Joined: 03.03.2010

Aug 1 @ 2:45 PM ET
Curious if you can show me one up to date prospect list that has KK and Laf listed as prospects?
- rangerdanger94
I am curious if you could get out of our forum, like its been asked of you?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 2:45 PM ET
I am curious if you could get out of our forum, like its been asked of you?
- TaroTsujimoto5

he can stay
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 1 @ 2:45 PM ET
Flying solo ☝️

I didnt come up with the concept, although I introduced the thought to the board.

We're not "helping" the rags, we're helping the Sabres get the best return possible for our franchise center.

Retain vs. Cap dump.

No loser taking up a spot being miserable
More teams able to take on eichels contract
More teams willing to take a risk on his injury
Getting rid of skimmer (in 2 years) makes this very possible


I do absolutely agree with paying eichel to beat us in the playoffs or them winning the cup on our dime.

That would suck.
Laferierre and kakko ......

- Boss34


I can give you a major difference in retention vs dump. Term. No dump will be 5 years. If I’m KA and they want 5M over 5 years, Laf and Kakko + or walk.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
I can give you a major difference in retention vs dump. Term. No dump will be 5 years. If I’m KA and they want 5M over 5 years, Laf and Kakko + or walk.
- SDSabre


I still wouldn't do it. I'm not paying Jack Eichel for the privilege of getting my ass kicked in the first round (God willing they make the playoffs in the next 5 years). I have no doubt he'd put up 10 points in 5 games
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
(frank) the Pegulas (frank) Eichel.

Go Bills and take the Sabres with you

https://twitter.com/profo.../1421895846371672067?s=21
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
Don't know Pach's, is there something else going on, really weird situation.
- Buff36

I'm sure there's a lot going on behind the scenes. Jack's camp got defensive with their press release and the appearance of their doctor, who does "minimally invasive" surgery furthered that notion.

Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Aug 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
I'm not going to go back and forth.

I appreciate your imput.
The board is better with you around.

I heard sam was gone %100. For a long time.

My guess was his value was pretty minimal.

- Boss34

Yeah, the most popular opinion was that Reinhart was gone, only because everyone (correctly) believed that he personally wanted out.
From what I’ve heard, Buffalo offered him a longer term contract (even a few different ones with varying amount of years), but they had jerked him around twice with bridge deals (in his mind) and he wasn’t interested in staying. Sabres wanted him to stay, but had treated him kind of like a planB previously, Samson was done with it.
The only thing taking down his trade value was his contract status. All other GMs would trade for is one guaranteed year of Samson, and the cost of that one year was as of yet unknown.




Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 1 @ 2:57 PM ET
See Marco scandella 😐
- Boss34

They shoulda kept him in the first place. Joker was learning a lot from him and developing nicely
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 2:59 PM ET
Or the track record of just putting together the best season of his career.

Also are all gamblers degenerates or just the ones you don't like?

I like how people will draw conclusions because their past automatically makes them guilty.

Never change social media, never change.

- sabresfan69

Not sure what you’re defending, but Kane has proven to be a giant POS his entire career. He deserves absolutely no benefit of the doubt
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 1 @ 3:00 PM ET
I actually watch a lot of Ranger games and can honestly say I disagree. He had his games or a decent period here and there where he was executing but unable to finish but most games I’ve watched like I said he is not noticeable at all imo. Maybe I’m watching the games that he’s coincidentally invisible but that’s not likely.
- Cptmjl

Ask the regulars over at the ranger board and they’ll tell you the same thing I said
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Aug 1 @ 3:00 PM ET
Eichel's camp is banking on that fatigue to get him out sooner


- Hank Balling

Other GMs waiting to see if maybe the owners step in and say get a deal done right now?
His agents seem to be trying to trigger Pegula to an angry, “get that (frank)er outta here!”
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Aug 1 @ 3:01 PM ET
(frank) the Pegulas (frank) Eichel.

Go Bills and take the Sabres with you

https://twitter.com/profo.../1421895846371672067?s=21

- Stripes77


A lot better things can be done for a billion+ than a barely used stadium.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 3:03 PM ET
I actually watch a lot of Ranger games and can honestly say I disagree. He had his games or a decent period here and there where he was executing but unable to finish but most games I’ve watched like I said he is not noticeable at all imo. Maybe I’m watching the games that he’s coincidentally invisible but that’s not likely.
- Cptmjl

Kakko looks like a very underwhelming top 2 pick.

I’d be very displeased if he was a main piece for Eichel.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
I still wouldn't do it. I'm not paying Jack Eichel for the privilege of getting my ass kicked in the first round (God willing they make the playoffs in the next 5 years). I have no doubt he'd put up 10 points in 5 games
- Hank Balling


Fair. My point was extreme overpay if you want 5M Eichel
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 1 @ 3:07 PM ET
Spicy take
- Hank Balling



He loses the most money being shipped to Montreal.

That Quebec tax……….
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