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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 1 @ 11:46 AM ET
Fleury will play for Chicago
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 11:46 AM ET
Imagine how that looks when the Pegulas are paying him to win the cup for someone else.
- Hank Balling


about as foolish as asking tax payers to fund 100 percent of a new stadium
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 1 @ 11:47 AM ET
I dont think the Sabres have any interest in retaining money on Eichel. Imagine how that looks when the Pegulas are paying him to win the cup for someone else.
- Hank Balling


Yes, very good point. Bad look for sure.

But, if the upgrade is getting laferierre or kappo vs. Very little around the league.....

Not taking back a bad contract is the same as retaining salary. Bottom line.

And you have players that want to be in buffalo ☝️

What's nice about this rebuild is were going to basically have a expansion team fresh start on the books minus cody and erhoff.
Skimmer , eichel and okposo ( gone in 2 years)

Bad look , smart business
BufBanditsFan71
Buffalo Sabres
Location: miss Buffalo Pizza, FL
Joined: 06.30.2021

Aug 1 @ 11:47 AM ET
No
- ImThatGuy


Hold out for that "Matt Duchene" type deal. No need to make an unnecessary, unprofitable trade.

Eventually/hopefully go west... especially if/when Evander Kane is booted from the league.

Also, at some point, there will be injuries to teams in the playoff hunt.

If we're patient, they will come!
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 1 @ 11:48 AM ET
Fleury will play for Chicago
- Stripes77


Okposo and a 7th rounder gets it done.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 1 @ 11:49 AM ET
about as foolish as asking tax payers to fund 100 percent of a new stadium
- homiedclown


They were smart to wait to ask until the Bills were finally good again.

"Nice Bills you have there. It would be a shame if something happened to them..."
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 1 @ 11:49 AM ET
Yes, very good point. Bad look for sure.

But, if the upgrade is getting laferierre or kappo vs. Very little around the league.....

Not taking back a bad contract is the same as retaining salary. Bottom line.

And you have players that want to be in buffalo ☝️

What's nice about this rebuild is were going to basically have a expansion team fresh start on the books minus cody and erhoff.
Skimmer , eichel and okposo ( gone in 2 years)

Bad look , smart business

- Boss34


if kanes contract is voided:


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 1 @ 11:50 AM ET
Hold out for that "Matt Duchene" type deal. No need to make an unnecessary, unprofitable trade.

Eventually/hopefully go west... especially if/when Evander Kane is booted from the league.

Also, at some point, there will be injuries to teams in the playoff hunt.

If we're patient, they will come!

- BufBanditsFan71



Tough to move a $10 million salary at the tdl


Unless the Sabres retained some $?

skullthrash
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.28.2021

Aug 1 @ 11:51 AM ET
Yes, very good point. Bad look for sure.

But, if the upgrade is getting laferierre or kappo vs. Very little around the league.....

Not taking back a bad contract is the same as retaining salary. Bottom line.

And you have players that want to be in buffalo ☝️

What's nice about this rebuild is were going to basically have a expansion team fresh start on the books minus cody and erhoff.
Skimmer , eichel and okposo ( gone in 2 years)

Bad look , smart business

- Boss34


I agree with you here. But let’s not kid ourselves, if we retained something like 50% on eichel’s contract not only would we be the laughing stock of the league (again), it would also be a poor business decision.

I could see retaining a small amount like 1-2 million if that was the difference between getting laf, but anyone suggesting 50% on a 5 contract is out of their mind. They would be getting a top 10 center in the league, being paid at $5 million.
Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY
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Aug 1 @ 11:51 AM ET
if kanes contract is voided:


- Michael Pachla



Kane's contract is more of a when not if

Maybe that gets the other California teams to ante up a bit more as well.

Imagine if a team immediately flips eichel to boston....
skullthrash
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.28.2021

Aug 1 @ 11:53 AM ET
Kane's contract is more of a when not if

Maybe that gets the other California teams to ante up a bit more as well.

Imagine if a team immediately flips eichel to boston....

- Boss34

I’d rather not
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 1 @ 11:54 AM ET
Interesting that the KBC cost $127m to build. According to the internet's handy dandy inflation calculator, that's $233m in today's money.

For $400m, I'd assume they want to strip it to the studs (cinderblocks).

Granted I understand this is just a starting point in negotiations

- Hank Balling


Who knows how long the shortage of various building supplies will last, but merely adjusting inflation is vastly underestimating the true current cost environment.
Probably more like north of $300m.

Your general point still stands that $400m gets a very nice arena ... and possibly upgrades to the surrounding area. Or maybe lines the pocket to enhance the lifestyle.
homiedclown
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Aug 1 @ 11:54 AM ET
They were smart to wait to ask until the Bills were finally good again.

"Nice Bills you have there. It would be a shame if something happened to them..."

- Hank Balling

"The team has made no overt threats, sources say, to leave Buffalo if it doesn’t get the full funding request, but it has made clear to government negotiators that there are other cities elsewhere that desire an NFL franchise and would pay handsomely for it."
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 1 @ 11:54 AM ET
I agree with you here. But let’s not kid ourselves, if we retained something like 50% on eichel’s contract not only would we be the laughing stock of the league (again), it would also be a poor business decision.

I could see retaining a small amount like 1-2 million if that was the difference between getting laf, but anyone suggesting 50% on a 5 contract is out of their mind. They would be getting a top 10 center in the league, being paid at $5 million.

- skullthrash


I think we agree , just need to work out the numbers.

Your at 1-2 I'm at 3-4 million retained.

1-2 you get kakko
3-4 you get laferierre

Regardless the Sabres need to take on a cap dump or retain salary to make any trade work.

Aside from the kracken....
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Aug 1 @ 11:54 AM ET
if kanes contract is voided:


- Michael Pachla

when was the last time a tweet was grounds to void a contract?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 1 @ 11:55 AM ET
Kakko + Chytil + Robertson + 1st for Eichel 50% retained, let's get it done boys.
- rangerdanger94


I see.
skullthrash
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.28.2021

Aug 1 @ 11:56 AM ET
I think we agree , just need to work out the numbers.

Your at 1-2 I'm at 3-4 million retained.

1-2 you get kakko
3-4 you get laferierre

Regardless the Sabres need to take on a cap dump or retain salary to make any trade work.

Aside from the kracken....

- Boss34

Good post!!

I would much rather take on a salary dump than retain but that’s just me. I think it’s more principle (optics) than anything. If 3 million retained gets it done, I might bite
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Aug 1 @ 12:01 PM ET

- Hank Balling


Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Aug 1 @ 12:03 PM ET
Kane's contract is more of a when not if

Maybe that gets the other California teams to ante up a bit more as well.

Imagine if a team immediately flips eichel to boston....

- Boss34

that's fine...as long as they can get a decent return it shouldn't matter what that team does with him
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Aug 1 @ 12:04 PM ET

- Gr8daygo

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Aug 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
when was the last time a tweet was grounds to void a contract?
- homiedclown

meh...roll with it
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Aug 1 @ 12:07 PM ET
The fact that there is a risk that he is damaged goods is precisely while you are not getting all our blue chip prospects/Laf.
- rangerdanger94



Ok, I'll play along...

I'll take the trade under this condition;
Should Jack return to play, and be available to play in 80% of the games in the '21-22 season after gaining full medical clearance to play in the '21-22 season (games missed due to other medical conditions are excluded from the calculation); the the NY Rangers shall trade the Following players to the Buffalo Sabres immediately upon the end if the '21-'22 season (June 30, 2022)
- Adam Fox
- Alex Lafranierre
- Igor Shesterkin
- K'Andre Miller
While the Buffalo Sabres shall trade back to the NY Rangers
- Alex Georgiev
- Kaapo Kakko
- Chytil
- Olofsson

Please sign and send the fax over!
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Aug 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
I think we agree , just need to work out the numbers.

Your at 1-2 I'm at 3-4 million retained.

1-2 you get kakko
3-4 you get laferierre

Regardless the Sabres need to take on a cap dump or retain salary to make any trade work.

Aside from the kracken....

- Boss34


Boss you still smoking that good good with Rangers fans?

Stop it. f the rags.

Much rather have quick as a dump vs. retain on jack… as an example. At least you could start quick this year.
skullthrash
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.28.2021

Aug 1 @ 12:10 PM ET
meh...roll with it
- Michael Pachla

He has a point, there’s a lot of crucifying going around before a full investigation is complete. Social media has created a scary precedent.

Bottom line: I’m glad I’m not famous and under a microscope
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 12:12 PM ET
there is no need to retain part of eichel's salary in a ranger trade


all that is doing, is bailing them out for the 4.5 mil they have on the books for buyouts this season
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