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lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 29 @ 10:28 AM ET
the reinhart trade is the only one that realistically could have fetched a ready prospect right?

then it turns out his value wasnt that great

- robz228

Modestly productive year on last place team. Inflated stats as a result.
My criticism of Rhino has always been his lack of high level NHL speed and foot speed.
We got fair market value. GMKA fielded all offers and took the best I’m convinced of that
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
Anaheim: Eichel
Buffalo: 1st Comtois Lundestrom Grouix

- Buff36


Lundestrom and Grouix are 3C’s at best. Most likely both will just be bottom 6’ers.

So it’s really Comtois and a 1st for Eichel.

I’d like to see Drysdale at least.

Keepcomplaining
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.01.2020

Jul 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
This is all true, but I don't think it's near what it could have been in terms of young talent that's NHL ready coming back..

I was expecting 2-3 guys along the lines of Zegras or a few of the LA prospects who at worse are joining the Sabres in 2022 for the Reinahart/Eichel trades.

Now I fear the Eichel trade might not even garner those pieces as a return

- sbroads24



If he can’t get you a top prospect you keep him and tell him to play nice or he’ll never be traded.

This is his and his agents fault he’s got no value.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
the reinhart trade is the only one that realistically could have fetched a ready prospect right?

then it turns out his value wasnt that great

- robz228

I think I'm surprised they got 0 NHL ready players for 23 and 55.

I expected at least one prospect that was close to making the jump.

lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 29 @ 10:30 AM ET
Lundestrom and Grouix are 3C’s at best. Most likely both will just be bottom 6’ers.

So it’s really Comtois and a 1st for Eichel.

I’d like to see Drysdale at least.

- Pegullaville

I’m with you. If it’s not at least a first and elite prospect, why trade him now
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 29 @ 10:31 AM ET
I think I'm surprised they got 0 NHL ready players for 23 and 55.

I expected at least one prospect that was close to making the jump.

- sbroads24


dude...wadr, you led the charge on the risto-hate...why on earth would you expect anything close to that?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 29 @ 10:31 AM ET
I have a hunch that the return wasn’t that great because he said piss off to an extension with FLA.

It was a deadline deal only Florida get the whole season with him and if they stink for whatever reason, they can recoup the pick.

- dadeadhead

So then why deal him now?

I just don't get that trade at all

And it's a long shot Devon Levi is a good NHL starter someday as all goalie prospects are long shots
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
So then why deal him now?

I just don't get that trade at all

And it's a long shot Devon Levi is a good NHL starter someday as all goalie prospects are long shots

- sbroads24

Or Levi pans out as many experts have predicted and it’s a career move. Time will tell
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
Lundestrom and Grouix are 3C’s at best. Most likely both will just be bottom 6’ers.

So it’s really Comtois and a 1st for Eichel.

I’d like to see Drysdale at least.

- Pegullaville

Really don't know that, unfortunately those 2 are highly rated in there system
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
dude...wadr, you led the charge on the risto-hate...why on earth would you expect anything close to that?
- Michael Pachla

JFC. I'm not gonna turn this into a 10 page long Risto debate

The guy sucks. But the market for RD has been crazy high this offseason. I'm surprised they didn't get any NHL ready or close to ready prospects

That is all
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jul 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
So then why deal him now?

I just don't get that trade at all

And it's a long shot Devon Levi is a good NHL starter someday as all goalie prospects are long shots

- sbroads24

maybe the late first will be a future all star to replace girgens
KaltatasSkirt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
dude...wadr, you led the charge on the risto-hate...why on earth would you expect anything close to that?
- Michael Pachla


Hagg plays NHL minutes
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
Or Levi pans out as many experts have predicted and it’s a career move. Time will tell
- lulags

Huh?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
So then why deal him now?

I just don't get that trade at all

And it's a long shot Devon Levi is a good NHL starter someday as all goalie prospects are long shots

- sbroads24



Didn’t want his negativity in the locker room.
Keepcomplaining
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.01.2020

Jul 29 @ 10:34 AM ET
So then why deal him now?

I just don't get that trade at all

And it's a long shot Devon Levi is a good NHL starter someday as all goalie prospects are long shots

- sbroads24



We got a top goalie prospect and a first for a guy who was leaving the first chance he got…. No ones over paying unless he was re-signing and I thinks he wants to test the market and either go home or make as much money as possible.
Keepcomplaining
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.01.2020

Jul 29 @ 10:34 AM ET
Didn’t want his negativity in the locker room.
- dadeadhead



His negativity is what has gotten him in this mess.

You tell him to smarten up play nice and score goals. And he’ll be outta here before the new year.
KaltatasSkirt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 29 @ 10:35 AM ET
JFC. I'm not gonna turn this into a 10 page long Risto debate

The guy sucks. But the market for RD has been crazy high this offseason. I'm surprised they didn't get any NHL ready or close to ready prospects

That is all

- sbroads24


I wonder what the alternatives were to a Risto deal to the Flyers. If Kyvyn targeted a first, you're not getting much more for the guy. Well, a 2nd and a warm body I spose.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 29 @ 10:35 AM ET
We got a top goalie prospect and a first for a guy who was leaving the first chance he got…. No ones over paying unless he was re-signing and I thinks he wants to test the market and either go home or make as much money as possible.
- Keepcomplaining

Debatable

And goalie prospects are the most unpredictable prospects in hockey.

There's a better chance Levi never plays an NHL game than it is he becomes a bonafide starter
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Jul 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
Like i said months ago its going to be a season where if you need to spend more time with family etc its the year do it .

They're looking for (daddy vets to bring the kids along)

- gerbe75pts



sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 29 @ 10:37 AM ET
I wonder what the alternatives were to a Risto deal to the Flyers. If Kyvyn targeted a first, you're not getting much more for the guy. Well, a 2nd and a warm body I spose.
- KaltatasSkirt

The trade itself is fantastic. No complaints

But of course people like Pachla are trying to spin it into anything else than me saying I am surprised between the two trades we did not get an NHL ready guy
KaltatasSkirt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 29 @ 10:37 AM ET
Ethan Prow spent last season with JJ Peterka, Phil Gogulla, Zach Redmond, Derek Roy and Andrew MacWilliam,
Keepcomplaining
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.01.2020

Jul 29 @ 10:38 AM ET
Debatable

And goalie prospects are the most unpredictable prospects in hockey.

There's a better chance Levi never plays an NHL game than it is he becomes a bonafide starter

- sbroads24


And there also a bigger chance Reinhart was gone after this coming season then staying….

Who’s going to pay a nhl ready prospect for what most likely looks like a rental?

I think it’s a solid deal given the circumstances.

Risto deal as well was a major grab.

Now just gotta hit on Eichel.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 29 @ 10:40 AM ET
Huh?
- sbroads24

https://www.si.com/hockey...on-levi-at-your-own-peril

https://thehockeywriters....l-draft-prospect-profile/

https://www.eliteprospect.../player/276555/devon-levi
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 29 @ 10:40 AM ET
And there also a bigger chance Reinhart was gone after this coming season then staying….

Who’s going to pay a nhl ready prospect for what most likely looks like a rental?

I think it’s a solid deal given the circumstances.

Risto deal as well was a major grab.

Now just gotta hit on Eichel.

- Keepcomplaining


Reinhart pulled a better return than Buchnevich. That market was obviously dryer for forwards than d-men.

You don’t trade a player in the division if it isn’t truly the best package teams are offering.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 29 @ 10:41 AM ET
And there also a bigger chance Reinhart was gone after this coming season then staying….

Who’s going to pay a nhl ready prospect for what most likely looks like a rental?

I think it’s a solid deal given the circumstances.

Risto deal as well was a major grab.

Now just gotta hit on Eichel.

- Keepcomplaining

Yeah, I think it's an awful deal considering what we were all talking about as a potential return a week ago. But that's neither here nor there.

Remember when it was Matthew Tkachuk or pick 5 from Columbus? Or even pick 8 and a prospect from LA?

We got a pick that will most likely be 25-32 and an unpredictable undersized goalie

It's brutal
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