It should’ve been done behind closed doors.


Eichel’s camp isn’t working in his favor right now unfortunately.

Shutting the fudge up is what they should be doing.

Sabres hold all the cards.

You want out? Fine

We want a premium return. As we should.

You aren’t getting moved unless we get a premium. As of now we’re getting garage sale offers.

Tell your agent to shut their d!ck suckers or enjoy the next 5 years in Buffalo. The more they talk, the worse the offers are.


Agent/player ego is the issue here.
- dadeadhead

10000000%

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

10000000%

Couldn’t have said it better myself.
- Jammerz04

He’s behind the 8 ball(no pun intended) and is throwing a temper tantrum.

He wants out and he wants it now!

Patience is a virtue son.

At 25 you’re learning to be humble.

I blame his parents.

Adams should come out with another statement ... something like :

We consider Jack a Buffalo Sabre and is under contract for another 5 years. After his injury is cleared up, we expect him to suit up for our team next season and for many more. As all teams do, if an offer comes in for their star player, we will consider it if the move makes our team better - but we all prefer to have Jack here. We wish him a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing him in our uniform next season.

Would be fun to see what happens after that statement, that's for sure.

Also, if the team or anybody wants to see Jack "punished" for all of this, don't trade him to Arizona or some other hockey hell; make him play for the Sabres. That'll really piss him off
- kritter65

Not one person with an active brain would believe the bullpoop in bold above, especially Adams.

I get the Eichel hate. The kid has been kind of a primadonna. Imagine though you have a neck injury and they won't let you get your preferred treatment. Having a contract with someone doesn't mean you own them.

I also see the Sabres side. It's an experimental surgery that has never been performed on a hockey player. Eichel is your C and most talented player. It's really a shame they didn't handle this internally.
- Pierceme69

It kind of does in the sports world. Just ask the NFLers who got cut and/or had their salary/signing bonuses revoked for working out away from the team and getting hurt.

Does it make it right? No, but it's the way it is at the moment.

Tuch out 6 months. Shoulder surgery.
- Stripes77

I’d still be willing to take him as PART of a package for Eichel
Idk if they have enough high end pieces to get it done though
Pretty much seems like it’s Krebs, Tuch, and then late 1sts
There’s other teams that can beat that….
If they want

Kravstov + Jones + Georgiev + 2nd
- rangerdanger94

Not….. even….. close…..

I’d still be willing to take him as PART of a package for Eichel
Idk if they have enough high end pieces to get it done though
Pretty much seems like it’s Krebs, Tuch, and then late 1sts
There’s other teams that can beat that….
If they want
- jdfitz77

Krebs, Tuch, Theodore, 2022 1st???

I get the Eichel hate. The kid has been kind of a primadonna. Imagine though you have a neck injury and they won't let you get your preferred treatment. Having a contract with someone doesn't mean you own them.

I also see the Sabres side. It's an experimental surgery that has never been performed on a hockey player. Eichel is your C and most talented player. It's really a shame they didn't handle this internally.
- Pierceme69

Kind of??

There is a reason this is playing out in the media and not behind closed doors.

Eichel could file for medical arbitration, but he knows he will lose. They are trying to play the victim card when in fact Adams called their bluff and they know they have no other outs.

They are making it seem that the Sabres are the bad guys, when in actuality Jack just wants out but he is trying to save face in the public eye. Him and his agent are morons. Nobody would bat an eye if Jack wanted out, the team is bad and they're going to be bad for a while. Nobody would think any less of him in the NHL or the media minus a bunch of Sabres fans. But now everyone is seeing through his BS and he is screwing over the Sabres win any type of real NHL trade with a good return.

Adams should come out and say we've been negotiating in good faith but since Mr Fish wanted to make this public, we are not trading Jack until we get a package we feel we are comfortable with. In the mean time Jack can go have his surgery and we will see him when he is ready to go.

My favorite part of the statement from the agent: "The process is not working".


Both side agreed upon a contract where your client was compensated for his talent and services handsomely. That contract is being faithfully executed by the Sabres and they are trying to trade your client in an effort to appease him. They believe that is in the best interests of both parties provided they get adequate compensation from the other team. Just because you didn't get what you want, doesn't mean it's not working. There is not a provision in the contract that states Jack has final say in all things.

However, there IS a provision in the contract that allows you to contest the team's choice of treatment and you should use that. If all of that has been done and it hasn't worked out in your clients favor, the process STILL isn't broken because, if you didn't like that you should have negotiated that OUT of the contract PRIOR to signing it.

The process is that Jack is under contract for 5 more years and can exclusively play hockey in the NHL for the Sabres. No one forced him to sign that contract under duress. He did it of his own volition and of sound mind.

The ONLY way this works out for Jack is if he shuts the (frank) up and let's the team work it out. They're not doing ANYTHING wrong if they choose to keep him AND exercise their rights to authorize medical treatment THAT JACK EICHEL AGREED TO.

That's how contracts work folks. Quit being a whiny female dog.

Edit: The org will probably cave if recent history tells us anything, that's why this temper tantrum is happening. But I would LOVE to see KA hold the line.

I'd also love to see the Buffalo fans boo his ass while WEARING a Sabres uniform because of his prima donna poop.

My favorite part of the statement from the agent: "The process is not working".


Both side agreed upon a contract where your client was compensated for his talent and services handsomely. That contract is being faithfully executed by the Sabres and they are trying to trade your client in an effort to appease him. They believe that is in the best interests of both parties provided they get adequate compensation from the other team. Just because you didn't get what you want, doesn't mean it's not working. There is not a provision in the contract that states Jack has final say in all things.

However, there IS a provision in the contract that allows you to contest the team's choice of treatment and you should use that. If all of that has been done and it hasn't worked out in your clients favor, the process STILL isn't broken because, if you didn't like that you should have negotiated that OUT of the contract PRIOR to signing it.

The process is that Jack is under contract for 5 more years and can exclusively play hockey in the NHL for the Sabres. No one forced him to sign that contract under duress. He did it of his own volition and of sound mind.

The ONLY way this works out for Jack is if he shuts the (frank) up and let's the team work it out. They're not doing ANYTHING wrong if they choose to keep him AND exercise their rights to authorize medical treatment THAT JACK EICHEL AGREED TO.

That's how contracts work folks. Quit being a whiny female dog.

Edit: The org will probably cave if recent history tells us anything, that's why this temper tantrum is happening. But I would LOVE to see KA hold the line.

I'd also love to see the Buffalo fans boo his ass while WEARING a Sabres uniform because of his prima donna poop.
- gcomella34

Good post!

I get the Eichel hate. The kid has been kind of a primadonna. Imagine though you have a neck injury and they won't let you get your preferred treatment. Having a contract with someone doesn't mean you own them.

I also see the Sabres side. It's an experimental surgery that has never been performed on a hockey player. Eichel is your C and most talented player. It's really a shame they didn't handle this internally.
- Pierceme69

You're spot on here, they don't own him.

Jack Eichel agreed to this when he signed the contract. It's not like this was a "poison pill" provision that was inserted into the contract in the fine print. He's not Tim Allen in "The Santa Clause" using a magnifying glass to see this provision.

As an athlete what sets him apart is his skill and the condition of his body. There are ALL KINDS of provisions with respect to what he can do. Many contracts in the NFL don't allow players to Jet Ski or ride motorcycles during the season.

So no, they don't own him. But Jack gave the right of treatment to the organization when he signed the contract. Jack had TONS of representation through his agent and all kinds of lawyers to look over that contract and they did.

Yet he still signed it.

There is no ownership, merely one side abiding by the contract both parties signed. The other side is choosing not to use the remedies available to them in that contract and are instead choosing "hissyfit" to get their way.

John Jack “Veruca Salt” Eichel

John Jack “Veruca Salt” Eichel
- SyrSabreFan

Underrated band.

Krebs, Tuch, Theodore, 2022 1st???
- chugger38

I’d do that in a heartbeat
But i think Theodore is pretty much “untouchable” for Vegas (*at least he should be)

Kind of??

There is a reason this is playing out in the media and not behind closed doors.

Eichel could file for medical arbitration, but he knows he will lose. They are trying to play the victim card when in fact Adams called their bluff and they know they have no other outs.

They are making it seem that the Sabres are the bad guys, when in actuality Jack just wants out but he is trying to save face in the public eye. Him and his agent are morons. Nobody would bat an eye if Jack wanted out, the team is bad and they're going to be bad for a while. Nobody would think any less of him in the NHL or the media minus a bunch of Sabres fans. But now everyone is seeing through his BS and he is screwing over the Sabres win any type of real NHL trade with a good return.

Adams should come out and say we've been negotiating in good faith but since Mr Fish wanted to make this public, we are not trading Jack until we get a package we feel we are comfortable with. In the mean time Jack can go have his surgery and we will see him when he is ready to go.
- Stripes77

I think a lot of Sabres fans are taking this personally & just a little too butthurt by what’s going on

"The process is not working"

My favorite part of the statement from the agent: "The process is not working".


Both side agreed upon a contract where your client was compensated for his talent and services handsomely. That contract is being faithfully executed by the Sabres and they are trying to trade your client in an effort to appease him. They believe that is in the best interests of both parties provided they get adequate compensation from the other team. Just because you didn't get what you want, doesn't mean it's not working. There is not a provision in the contract that states Jack has final say in all things.

However, there IS a provision in the contract that allows you to contest the team's choice of treatment and you should use that. If all of that has been done and it hasn't worked out in your clients favor, the process STILL isn't broken because, if you didn't like that you should have negotiated that OUT of the contract PRIOR to signing it.

The process is that Jack is under contract for 5 more years and can exclusively play hockey in the NHL for the Sabres. No one forced him to sign that contract under duress. He did it of his own volition and of sound mind.

The ONLY way this works out for Jack is if he shuts the (frank) up and let's the team work it out. They're not doing ANYTHING wrong if they choose to keep him AND exercise their rights to authorize medical treatment THAT JACK EICHEL AGREED TO.

That's how contracts work folks. Quit being a whiny female dog.

Edit: The org will probably cave if recent history tells us anything, that's why this temper tantrum is happening. But I would LOVE to see KA hold the line.

I'd also love to see the Buffalo fans boo his ass while WEARING a Sabres uniform because of his prima donna poop.
- gcomella34

Fantastic post. Sums it up perfectly!

I think a lot of Sabres fans are taking this personally & just a little too butthurt by what’s going on
- jdfitz77

It's affecting what happens with the organization and how the team might move forward. Don't care that he wants out, do care about the way it's happening.

I guess if I'm Eichel's camp, I'd come back with "prove Jack Eichel is in that picture and in that pickup game".

Can anyone point him out in that picture with 100% certainty ?
- kritter65

It's affecting what happens with the organization and how the team might move forward. Don't care that he wants out, do care about the way it's happening.
- Buff36

I don't think Eichel really wants the Sabres to get a boatload for him. If they get ripped off again like with O'Reilly it just extends this incompetent narrative about Sabres management and sort of proves him right for leaving, much the same that O'Reilly was vindicated by the Sabres continuing to suck and he going on to win.

The worst thing for Eichel is if the Sabres go get 2 top prospects who then are competing for a playoff spot earlier than they should be. Then the narrative switches to blaming all the losing on Eichel.

This stuff matters to players. Think how defeating those "we don't need you" chants were to Tavares.

It's affecting what happens with the organization and how the team might move forward. Don't care that he wants out, do care about the way it's happening.
- Buff36

I get it it
But it seems to me that many Sabres fans (especially on here) are letting a decade of frustration out in the Jack situation

Not that it really matters one way or another,
but it’s just tiring to continually see ppl going overboard again…. and again…. and again…. etc

- gerbe75pts

OK a different picture. Thanks. Is that him in the Sabres jersey ? Sort of looks like him, but if you zoom in, the # on the helmet shows a 9 and maybe something else...a 6 ? Isn't 96 Bjork's # ?

I get it it
But it seems to me that many Sabres fans (especially on here) are letting a decade of frustration out in the Jack situation

Not that it really matters one way or another,
but it’s just tiring to continually see ppl going overboard again…. and again…. and again…. etc
- jdfitz77

That could be fair, even looking at my own responses.

Just not a fan of the rhetoric his representation is using. Handle it according to the contract.

Great example, I had 0 problem with the way Reinhart handled it. We get it, he made one statement while asking a question in a presser. All understood and I hope he has a great career.

Jack has done this entirely differently. So I want the Sabres to get the best return they can. And so think KA needs to show everyone the Sabres aren’t going to be boxed in or have their hand forced because a player is throwing a public temper tantrum.

I think a lot of Sabres fans are taking this personally & just a little too butthurt by what’s going on
- jdfitz77

You have a star player and his agent knowing they have no real option other than to negotiate in the media.

If Jack really wanted that disc replacement surgery he would have taken the Sabres to medical arbitration by now.

He hasn't because he knows he will lose. So this is their way of getting what they want, but what they don't understand Adams isn't going to trade him for pennies on the dollar and Jack and his agent crying to the media isn't helping their cause.

I get it it
But it seems to me that many Sabres fans (especially on here) are letting a decade of frustration out in the Jack situation

Not that it really matters one way or another,
but it’s just tiring to continually see ppl going overboard again…. and again…. and again…. etc
- jdfitz77

I look at this as a business transaction, you can't give up your best asset for less than market value, however that assets agent is making it worse for you to get a full return. He signed a contract and is under it for 5 more seasons. If you want to get moved you better at least play ball in the public eye (which they are not doing)