I like it

It's competitiveness, always happens in training camp
- Stripes77

I agree if they can have a beer after. Hopefully no grudges are kept

I think that's probably likely but I wouldn't rule out a jump from him to be a good 2C.

I don't think there's much of a chance he's 1C
- sbroads24

If Turcotte turned out to be Reinhart, I’d be ok
He was picked 5th, he’s got some talent

No, he could help the kiddie core grow. He is still young enough that if he comes and plays well you could resign him, or you can use him to get assets, he's a good hockey player
- Buff36

Monahan's play and production the past 2 seasons makes questioning how good a hockey player he actually is as a very good question.

Sal Capaccio American football
@SalSports
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3m
Bills practice has ended today. Had a good skirmish between DT Ed Oliver and rookie OT Spencer Brown. Punches were thrown. Oliver ripped off Brown’s helmet. Brown dove on top of him. Other players came running in and there was a big pile of large people.


First training camp fight!
- Stripes77

Was Brown on his knees, surprised Oliver could reach his helmet.😏😏

I think that's probably likely but I wouldn't rule out a jump from him to be a good 2C.

I don't think there's much of a chance he's 1C
- sbroads24

There is definitely worse things in the world then having Cozens-Mitts-Kotkaniemi however I’m not a fan of any other prospect the Habs have in their system other than Suzuki or Caufield

Kotkaniemi being the big piece in the trade is underwhelming for me

when you guys are feeling hazy (from bad sleep) and coffee isn't cutting it, where do you turn to next?
- TheSabresTaco

back to bed

If Turcotte turned out to be Reinhart, I’d be ok
He was picked 5th, he’s got some talent
- jdfitz77

Turcotte is on everyone's top prospects list. I've seen some where he's a top ten. I've seen Kupari on several lists, too.

Monahan's play and production the past 2 seasons makes questioning how good a hockey player he actually is as a very good question.
- kingcong39

There whole team fell apart, the guy has had a 80pt season and 3 60pt seasons, even if he Averaged 50pts for us would help.

Matthew Bové
@Matt_Bove
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2m
Levi Wallace says there is more anger and urgency about camp this year. He said a lot of his teammates are “pissed off” with how last year ended #BillsMafia
@WKBW

There is definitely worse things in the world then having Cozens-Mitts-Kotkaniemi however I’m not a fan of any other prospect the Habs have in their system other than Suzuki or Caufield

Kotkaniemi being the big piece in the trade is underwhelming for me
- Pegullaville

Agreed, but the secondary pieces from LA trump what MTL could give us IMO.

I also think Turcotte> JK as we have a larger sample on JK

Turcotte is on everyone's top prospects list. I've seen some where he's a top ten. I've seen Kupari on several lists, too.
- Powerslave

I had Turcotte ranked as the third best prospect in that entire draft class going into it. So far it looks like a huge whiff.

Zegras, Cozens, Caufield, Boldy, Krebs, Newhook have all taken huge steps and look like better prospects at this point.

Turcotte should still be a pretty good player though, would you take Mittelstadt as the main piece in an Eichel deal ?

Matthew Bové
@Matt_Bove
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2m
Levi Wallace says there is more anger and urgency about camp this year. He said a lot of his teammates are “pissed off” with how last year ended #BillsMafia
@WKBW
- Stripes77

Good.

They should be.

There whole team fell apart, the guy has had a 80pt season and 3 60pt seasons, even if he Averaged 50pts for us would help.
- Buff36

Monahan would be coming to a team in even worse (much worse) shape then the one he produced poorly for that fell apart, as you put it.

You're expecting a turnaround with the Sabres?

That sounds like a seriously questionable expectation to have.

Matthew Bové
@Matt_Bove
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2m
Levi Wallace says there is more anger and urgency about camp this year. He said a lot of his teammates are “pissed off” with how last year ended #BillsMafia
@WKBW
- Stripes77

Love it.

Agreed, but the secondary pieces from LA trump what MTL could give us IMO.

I also think Turcotte> JK as we have a larger sample on JK
- sbroads24

I won’t argue that.

Sal Capaccio American football
@SalSports
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3m
Bills practice has ended today. Had a good skirmish between DT Ed Oliver and rookie OT Spencer Brown. Punches were thrown. Oliver ripped off Brown’s helmet. Brown dove on top of him. Other players came running in and there was a big pile of large people.


First training camp fight!
- Stripes77

i crushed a folding table billsmafia style, ed...what have you done ya p^ussy?

I had Turcotte ranked as the third best prospect in that entire draft class going into it. So far it looks like a huge whiff.

Zegras, Cozens, Caufield, Boldy, Krebs, Newhook have all taken huge steps and look like better prospects at this point.

Turcotte should still be a pretty good player though, would you take Mittelstadt as the main piece in an Eichel deal though ?
- Pegullaville

Depends. Getting Turcotte along with Bjornfot and 22 unprotected first, you got 3 assets all along those lines. Add in Kempe or Vilardi or someone else whos a half step down, could do a lot worse. Could make the team better as a whole.

Monahan would be coming to a team in even worse (much worse) shape then the one he produced poorly for that fell apart, as you put it.

You're expecting a turnaround with the Sabres?

That sounds like a seriously questionable expectation to have.
- kingcong39

Have something else lined up for Monahan if traded for. (frank) it, hold 50% of his contract. That would be massive for a team. Getting him at like 3.4M would be very enticing.

I had Turcotte ranked as the third best prospect in that entire draft class going into it. So far it looks like a huge whiff.

Zegras, Cozens, Caufield, Boldy, Krebs, Newhook have all taken huge steps and look like better prospects at this point.

Turcotte should still be a pretty good player though, would you take Mittelstadt as the main piece in an Eichel deal though ?
- Pegullaville

He's 20 years old. Had 21 points in 32 AHL games last year in his first year of pro hockey. So I wouldn't compare him to Mitts.

Would I prefer Zegras? Heck yeah.

But if LA comes calling with Turcotte, Kupari ++, I'm listening.

Turcotte is on everyone's top prospects list. I've seen some where he's a top ten. I've seen Kupari on several lists, too.
- Powerslave

I don’t think super high end talent is coming back to us in the Eichel trade
And that even if we get a guy like Turcotte, Rossi, Zegras, etc etc
I think we get that top offensive talent in the next 2 drafts by picking high

So in an Eichel trade,
I’m looking for talented players that can supplement the future talent we are hopefully getting

That way…. guys like Wright, Bedard, etc aren’t walking into the sh!tshow that Eichel had to walk into here

Monahan would be coming to a team in even worse (much worse) shape then the one he produced poorly for that fell apart, as you put it.

You're expecting a turnaround with the Sabres?

That sounds like a seriously questionable expectation to have.
- kingcong39

I think it's reasonable to question it, but also some guys just need a change.

I always find it hard to believe when mid-20's guys numbers fall off a cliff, that they suddenly just became below average.

Depends. Getting Turcotte along with Bjornfot and 22 unprotected first, you got 3 assets all along those lines. Add in Kempe or Vilardi or someone else whos a half step down, could do a lot worse. Could make the team better as a whole.
- SDSabre

Yeah, like Sbroads mentioned LA have the secondary pieces that most organizations don’t have. Unless Minny steps up which they have been reluctant to do so

Depends. Getting Turcotte along with Bjornfot and 22 unprotected first, you got 3 assets all along those lines. Add in Kempe or Vilardi or someone else whos a half step down, could do a lot worse. Could make the team better as a whole.
- SDSabre

Common logic says a return of Turcotte, Bjornfot, Vilardi, and a 22 1st makes sense and is solid, but based on Adams still holding out, it makes me think that even the return above has not been offered.

Depends. Getting Turcotte along with Bjornfot and 22 unprotected first, you got 3 assets all along those lines. Add in Kempe or Vilardi or someone else whos a half step down, could do a lot worse. Could make the team better as a whole.
- SDSabre

Making teh salary work with LA is difficult.
It involves Quick, Iafallo, + another salary peice cming back to Buffalo.

Quick is a dump, Iafallo holds value, AA for example holds some value.

There whole team fell apart, the guy has had a 80pt season and 3 60pt seasons, even if he Averaged 50pts for us would help.
- Buff36

Help what exactly?

We don’t wanna be good this year
And even if we did, we are still gonna stink