I wonder if the Kraken would be willing to Take Skinner +Eichel for Beniers straight up.

It's criminally low return for Eichel, but worth it potentially to be free of that contract.
- matty12345

You’d be taking $19 mill off an already very low payroll. Unless they’re going to start taking on bad contracts to hit the cap floor?

I wonder if the Kraken would be willing to Take Skinner +Eichel for Beniers straight up.

It's criminally low return for Eichel, but worth it potentially to be free of that contract.
- matty12345

I would do that if I were the Kracken, but the Sabres would have to spend like 30 Mill to get to the cap floor.....

FU Darcy and your suffering....
- hehateme

I long for the Doolittle Darcy days………


Proof the grass isn’t always greener on the other side.

It will be one of Wright,Savoie, lambert in 3 years
- gerbe75pts

I’m a huge fan of Lambert, but we need a Center.

Especially since this organization has decided to draft 20 wingers over the course of the last two years.

It will be one of Wright,Savoie, lambert in 3 years
- gerbe75pts

cozensons has his eyes on it...i think he came out and said it at locker cleanout

Need Skinner's contract to hit the cap floor
- Buff36

Not really. Give some extensions to Dahlin and Jokiharyu, go get a couple of one year cap dumps from other teams...it's not hard to find salary for one year.

I get what you're saying but this is the 2nd attempt in 10 years run by the same owner, the current players coming into their primes are still winners but they gave up on this organization.

I still have yet to see a logical solution presented this time around that will allow winners to want to play for the Sabres.

This organizations entire approach and future is dependent on a lottery pick a year from now.


The insiders advice is go spend time with family, ha jesus, hope really is a lucrative market.
- washedup20

I don't think their entire approach is built around the lottery pick. They are acquiring as many picks as they can.

Looks to me like the draft overall is their approach, sure the lotto pick would help, but they're acquiring all the picks they can. Looks like their approach is to get as much young talent into the org as possible to play the numbers game and see what they can develop.

They're not at a point where they want to deal picks for players right now as that will hurt the future, I think they've flipped the philosophy since TM and a desperate JB in his final year towards "stock the shelves".

But I don't think this approach hinges on a lotto pick.

It will be one of Wright,Savoie, lambert in 3 years
- gerbe75pts

Naw, they will hopefully be the MacKinnon. Thinking Cozens in the Landeskog role.

Hmm thought he had at least an AHL look potential
- SDSabre

i figured he would get a look from somebody

It will be one of Wright,Savoie, lambert in 3 years
- gerbe75pts

Oh great.

I remember when we talked about this with Eichel.

He was going to be a great captain for us.

Not really. Give some extensions to Dahlin and Jokiharyu, go get a couple of one year cap dumps from other teams...it's not hard to find salary for one year.
- matty12345

If the cap goes up from the TV deal and Skinner scores some goals, in a few years that contract may not look SO bad.


It will still be bad, but maybe not SO bad. If he's a scoring winger in two maybe three years maybe someone wants him for a push provided the cap goes up.

I know, I know. Crazy optimism.

cozensons has his eyes on it...i think he came out and said it at locker cleanout
- Michael Pachla

See how he plays this season.

If it goes well, put an A on him next season.

Let him play that role for 2 yrs, then slap the C on him.

Not really. Give some extensions to Dahlin and Jokiharyu, go get a couple of one year cap dumps from other teams...it's not hard to find salary for one year.
- matty12345

It is when your looking for 20m in camp dumps and don't want to take spots away from the kids.

cozensons has his eyes on it...i think he came out and said it at locker cleanout
- Michael Pachla

I like the way you think sir

I would do that if I were the Kracken, but the Sabres would have to spend like 30 Mill to get to the cap floor.....
- hehateme

It would be surprisingly easy. You could retain half of Skinner's salary for 21-22 only. Give your guys some 5 year deals:

7 or so for Dahlin
4-5 for Jokiharju
3-4 for Mittelstadt

That takes care of half of close to 20 mil. Overpay one or two vets on one year deals, and maybe take a bad contract that is only one more year.

It would be surprisingly easy. You could retain half of Skinner's salary for 21-22 only. Give your guys some 5 year deals:

7 or so for Dahlin
4-5 for Jokiharju
3-4 for Mittelstadt

That takes care of half of close to 20 mil. Overpay one or two vets on one year deals, and maybe take a bad contract that is only one more year.
- matty12345

No you cannot

No you cannot
- SDSabre

Can you explain? (Not being sarcastic, was not aware).

Can you explain? (Not being sarcastic, was not aware).
- matty12345

I’m like 99% certain you can’t choose retention on single or multiple years of your choosing. It’s an all or nothing type thing

It is when your looking for 20m in camp dumps and don't want to take spots away from the kids.
- Buff36

Look for guys on 2-3yr cap dumps and pick up the extra picks for the trouble.

We need assets, assets, assets.

The more we get the better odds of picking NHL players.

It would be surprisingly easy. You could retain half of Skinner's salary for 21-22 only. Give your guys some 5 year deals:

7 or so for Dahlin
4-5 for Jokiharju
3-4 for Mittelstadt

That takes care of half of close to 20 mil. Overpay one or two vets on one year deals, and maybe take a bad contract that is only one more year.
- matty12345

Can't do that with Skinner

I wonder if the Kraken would be willing to Take Skinner +Eichel for Beniers straight up.

It's criminally low return for Eichel, but worth it potentially to be free of that contract.
- matty12345

Not worth is. Get the return for Eichel and buyout Skinner next year after paying him his $7.5m signing bonus.

I’m a huge fan of Lambert, but we need a Center.

Especially since this organization has decided to draft 20 wingers over the course of the last two years.
- Pegullaville

He's a dual winger/ center I believe he will be a full time center next level

Look for guys on 2-3yr cap dumps and pick up the extra picks for the trouble.

We need assets, assets, assets.

The more we get the better odds of picking NHL players.
- dadeadhead

Yeah I agree with assets, but you still don't want 4 or 5 of them.

Per sevalli

Georgiev request trade

Look for guys on 2-3yr cap dumps and pick up the extra picks for the trouble.

We need assets, assets, assets.

The more we get the better odds of picking NHL players.
- dadeadhead

the butcher deal was a step in that direction...plucked a 5th rounder out of it