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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:38 AM ET
Kotkaniemi sucks.

If it’s KK, Romanov and picks I’m going to throw up

- Pegullaville



Agreed
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 30 @ 9:40 AM ET
No, but I do negotiate some contract provisions particularly around a vendor's deliverables and remedies. Procurement does the legal speak but I get a hand in saying you will do X by Y date, and then I'm the one that enforces it.

I'm not a jerk, because I'm the vendors biggest advocate at my company and I ensure they get paid, that's HUGE to them. But they know I'm fair.

And I become infinitely more detail oriented and document everything if I see you're not delivering on what was promised.

Edit: But the vendors that I work with typically get more share of the available annual business because I am very straight forward and factual. Which is how I approach everything. And I DO choose not to enforce minor provisions in a contract and cut them some slack when I know outside things effect it and they're giving me everything they have. It's about maintaining a relationship.

- gcomella34


#same
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 9:42 AM ET
1 per draft
- SabresFaninIndiana



Every year.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jul 30 @ 9:43 AM ET
#same
- SyrSabreFan



Literally doing PO Friday for the vendors for this weeks work.

My favorite thing.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 30 @ 9:44 AM ET
I saw someone else say he's the next Carey Price, I'll have to find the article I believe.

Just goes to show you, goalies are ALL over the place.

- gcomella34


I mean people are idiots, so I guess. One was drafted 5OA, won 24 games 2 years after being drafted. The other was nearly not drafted at all and won't see the NHL for years. Goalies are all over the place, there are better and worse ones. He's a worse one. UPL and Portillo will both be better.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 30 @ 9:44 AM ET
Buffalo has to take on some really bad contracts to get that done. Kotkaniemi definitely gone too. Montreal would be making a mini overhaul of their roster to get it done. To say this deal would have to be a blockbuster is an understatement.
- mochoson

Shea Weber would have to be involved.
and probably Armia or Toffoli just to make the cap work.

Then also picks and prospects.

It would be a hell of a trade.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jul 30 @ 9:46 AM ET
Shea Weber would have to be involved.
and probably Armia or Toffoli just to make the cap work.

Then also picks and prospects.

It would be a hell of a trade.

- ImThatGuy


Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:48 AM ET
I’d personally love to watch Jack deal with the Montreal press.
- Frizzlefry



This!!

The ultimate revenge on captain Pissy Pants is to have him go the fishbowl of insane fans and media. I give him two years as a Hab before he gets traded.

That or send him to Arizona or Winnipeg. That would show him.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jul 30 @ 9:51 AM ET
This!!

The ultimate revenge on captain Pissy Pants is to have him go the fishbowl of insane fans and media. I give him two years as a Hab before he gets traded.

That or send him to Arizona or Winnipeg. That would show him.

- Da_Cashman



Not interested in revenge, just want assets.

But this would be awesome...

Not interested in revenge though.


Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jul 30 @ 9:55 AM ET
What would be the cost to ship Weber to Arizona ?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 9:56 AM ET
Shea Weber would have to be involved.
and probably Armia or Toffoli just to make the cap work.

Then also picks and prospects.

It would be a hell of a trade.

- ImThatGuy



Weber and Drouin.

2 prospects

2 picks

Nice thing about Weber is he’s only owed 12 mil the rest of his deal. Would help with the cap floor the next few years too.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:56 AM ET
Good point just made on WGR in regards to Devon Levi.

Ullmark was drafted 9 years ago, and we were still unsure if he was a full time starter or not.

Expectations need to be extremely tampered with goalie prospects.

- ImThatGuy


Sure, they take years. Especially the ones outside the first round.

After that, typically, the guys that make it... sporadic.

Samsanov, 5 years RD 1. Hart, 4 years RD 2. Oettinger, 4 years, RD 1. UPL, 4 years, RD 2. Swayman, 4 years, RD 4. Blackwood, 3 years, RD 3. Demko, 5 years, RD 2. Nedeljkovic, Vanacek, 7 years, RD 2. Merzlikins, 6 years, RD 3. Sorokin, 7 years, RD 3. Kahkonen, Shestyorkin 7 years, RD 4. Matt Murray, Andersen(Rd 7 2010 also) 3 years, RD 3. Hellebuyck 5 years, RD 5.

It's exceptionally rare to see guys make it out of the bottom 2 rounds, like Ullmark did. But to target a D+1 7th round pick makes me think we as the fans are missing something. Based on the decisions they made at the draft, the kid clearly must have a tantalizing upside, something we all saw at the WJC.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
Weber and Drouin.

2 prospects

2 picks

Nice thing about Weber is he’s only owed 12 mil the rest of his deal. Would help with the cap floor the next few years too.

- dadeadhead

I didn't include Drouin because he has a M-NTC and i assume Buffalo is on the list.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
Watched tape. I don't see an NHL caliber prospect unless a lot changes fwiw. He hangs his glove, doesn't get good push oftentimes and even has issues tracking. Not sure he's making the show. Hope I'm wrong.
- QuinnFan


Great username (Jack?), hope you're wrong. I see him as a something from nothing guy, like your namesake.

Is it sad that it doesn't say Rhino anymore? I am sad.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:03 AM ET
Weber and Drouin.

2 prospects

2 picks

Nice thing about Weber is he’s only owed 12 mil the rest of his deal. Would help with the cap floor the next few years too.

- dadeadhead


He's on LTIR for the rest of his career likely. What did Seabrook net? Inactive cap dump for a cap dump and a pick.

So Montreal would be paying Buffalo more to take Weber.



TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:05 AM ET
I didn't include Drouin because he has a M-NTC and i assume Buffalo is on the list.
- ImThatGuy


Woof. There's a guy Kyvyn doesn't want.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 30 @ 10:05 AM ET
I didn't include Drouin because he has a M-NTC and i assume Buffalo is on the list.
- ImThatGuy

WTF Drouin has a NTC?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 30 @ 10:07 AM ET
Sure, they take years. Especially the ones outside the first round.

After that, typically, the guys that make it... sporadic.

Samsanov, 5 years RD 1. Hart, 4 years RD 2. Oettinger, 4 years, RD 1. UPL, 4 years, RD 2. Swayman, 4 years, RD 4. Blackwood, 3 years, RD 3. Demko, 5 years, RD 2. Nedeljkovic, Vanacek, 7 years, RD 2. Merzlikins, 6 years, RD 3. Sorokin, 7 years, RD 3. Kahkonen, Shestyorkin 7 years, RD 4. Matt Murray, Andersen(Rd 7 2010 also) 3 years, RD 3. Hellebuyck 5 years, RD 5.

It's exceptionally rare to see guys make it out of the bottom 2 rounds, like Ullmark did. But to target a D+1 7th round pick makes me think we as the fans are missing something. Based on the decisions they made at the draft, the kid clearly must have a tantalizing upside, something we all saw at the WJC.

- TheSabresTaco

Grubauer 4th rd
Saros 4th rd
Sorokin free agent
Smith 5th rd
Oettinger free agent
Halak 9th rd
Khudobin 7th rd
DeSmith free agent
Kuemper 6th rd
Hellebuyck 5th rd
Shesterkin 4th rd
Talbot free agent
Ullmark 6th rd


13 out of the top 21 GAA for last season taken 4th rd or higher


https://www.espn.com/nhl/...st/year/2021/seasontype/2








Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 30 @ 10:11 AM ET
Grubauer 4th rd
Saros 4th rd
Sorokin free agent
Smith 5th rd
Oettinger free agent
Halak 9th rd
Khudobin 7th rd
DeSmith free agent
Kuemper 6th rd
Hellebuyck 5th rd
Shesterkin 4th rd
Talbot free agent
Ullmark 6th rd


13 out of the top 21 GAA for last season taken 4th rd or higher


https://www.espn.com/nhl/...st/year/2021/seasontype/2

- homiedclown

Yeah, people can say what they want but you don't know, plus Bales is a pretty highly regarded goalie coach that will help him to.
Keepcomplaining
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.01.2020

Jul 30 @ 10:16 AM ET
Irrelevant information incoming!!!


Tyler Myers half brother made the NBA last night…

He’s also Black.

Explains the height
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:21 AM ET
Grubauer 4th rd
Saros 4th rd
Sorokin free agent
Smith 5th rd
Oettinger free agent
Halak 9th rd
Khudobin 7th rd
DeSmith free agent
Kuemper 6th rd
Hellebuyck 5th rd
Shesterkin 4th rd
Talbot free agent
Ullmark 6th rd


13 out of the top 21 GAA for last season taken 4th rd or higher


https://www.espn.com/nhl/...st/year/2021/seasontype/2

- homiedclown


Sorokin was a third rounder and Oettinger was a first rounder.
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 10:22 AM ET
Literally doing PO Friday for the vendors for this weeks work.

My favorite thing.

- gcomella34



what industry? Ive been on both sides of that coin
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 30 @ 10:23 AM ET
Kotkaniemi sucks.

If it’s KK, Romanov and picks I’m going to throw up

- Pegullaville

Caufield/Suzuki + Kitkaniemi or no deal
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 10:23 AM ET
This!!

The ultimate revenge on captain Pissy Pants is to have him go the fishbowl of insane fans and media. I give him two years as a Hab before he gets traded.

That or send him to Arizona or Winnipeg. That would show him.

- Da_Cashman


His home town team's arch enemy as well...
Super high taxes....


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:25 AM ET
Caufield/Suzuki + Kitkaniemi or no deal
- sabresfan69


Kotkaniemi is going to be whatever Nick Bonino become. Count on it.
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