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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 28 @ 4:05 PM ET
well I’d rather have Tanev.
- Grinder47


Hahahah
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 28 @ 4:06 PM ET
Nick Foligno to Boston. They definitely bolstered their bottom six.
- Rinosaur


I thought it was pretty much done he was going with his bro in Minny...
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 28 @ 4:07 PM ET
I thought it was pretty much done he was going with his bro in Minny...
- MattStrat


I think many thought the same.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 28 @ 4:07 PM ET
Is Legare or Poulin anywhere close to filling in? I think they still need a RW unless Simon is that guy?

Who is the 3rd RD? Rudwheel? Friedman?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 28 @ 4:08 PM ET
Is Legare or Poulin anywhere close to filling in?
- sammy87


Probably not
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 28 @ 4:09 PM ET
What is the thought process in keeping Rodrigues and letting Gaudreau walk? Jesus Christ, this can’t be that hard. They Sh!t the bed every time.
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Jul 28 @ 4:11 PM ET
Agree. Ultimately when they couldn't move Zucker, Pettersson, or Matheson there wasn't a lot they could do. Maybe find an offensive wing or upgrade in net instead of McGinn.
- Tojo.


That's where I side with Rutherford being better than Hextall. Yup, he could make some crappy deals, but it goes with the territory of high risk/reward and being a proactive GM, versus a passive Nancy like Hextall. I also think he would have saw the poop storm of expansion and free agency in a dead cap environment coming a mile away and made pre-emptive roster moves long ahead of time that would have had them better positioned for this. He would have found a way to make something happen instead of lying down, crying poor (We'll go to the store to look, but we probably won't be buying becuase it's too expensive...WTF) and hoping they didn't take the jewelry too. Never heard JR cry poor even when they were right up against the cap...poop even over the cap, they still found a way to make moves to make the team better. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't, but he made the effort.

I hate how Hextall manages. Simon and ER? Really? One former Penguin who couldn't crack an NHL lineup for more than 11 games last season and recorded no points doing it, and another that they felt so good about they wouldn't even let on the ice for the playoffs the last two seasons. That's what you get? Oh, sorry I forgot about overpaying in salary and term for a depth role penalty killer when you had better already who you could pay less. That and a backup goalie with no NHL experience. Well at least the playoffs will be exciting to witness, if they get there.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
I believe Vensel reported today that the Pens have no interest in MAF.
- madmike71


Hopefully trying to gain leverage... Fleury considering retiring, not many options for Chicago to trade him to. Their only other goalie is Lankinen (meh) and the goalie market is starting to get slim. Jarry and a 3rd for Fleury (1/2 retained)... do they want a guy capable of competing to be a starter and a mid round draft pick or do they want nothing?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
What is the thought process in keeping Rodrigues and letting Gaudreau walk? Jesus Christ, this can’t be that hard. They Sh!t the bed every time.
- Barnaby36

I don’t see the point of getting upset about picking one fringe nhler over another.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 28 @ 4:13 PM ET
That's where I side with Rutherford being better than Hextall. Yup, he could make some crappy deals, but it goes with the territory of high risk/reward and being a proactive GM, versus a passive Nancy like Hextall. I also think he would have saw the poop storm of expansion and free agency in a dead cap environment coming a mile away and made pre-emptive roster moves long ahead of time that would have had them better positioned for this. He would have found a way to make something happen instead of lying down, crying poor (We'll go to the store to look, but we probably won't be buying becuase it's too expensive...WTF) and hoping they didn't take the jewelry too. Never heard JR cry poor even when they were right up against the cap...poop even over the cap, they still found a way to make moves to make the team better. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't, but he made the effort.

I hate how Hextall manages. Simon and ER? Really? One former Penguin who couldn't crack an NHL lineup for more than 11 games last season and recorded no points doing it, and another that they felt so good about they wouldn't even let on the ice for the playoffs the last two seasons. That's what you get? Oh, sorry I forgot about overpaying in salary and term for a depth role penalty killer when you had better already who you could pay less. That and a backup goalie with no NHL experience. Well at least the playoffs will be exciting to witness, if they get there.

- NJPensfan

TL;DR
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 28 @ 4:14 PM ET
Probably not
- Rinosaur

Hell the way this roster is it looks like they are banking on it lol
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 28 @ 4:14 PM ET
What is the thought process in keeping Rodrigues and letting Gaudreau walk? Jesus Christ, this can’t be that hard. They Sh!t the bed every time.
- Barnaby36


I mean could be the team didn't want him or he didn't want the team? Pens seem to struggle in FA. Could be cap strapped or players aren't interested?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 28 @ 4:16 PM ET
Hell the way this roster is it looks like they are banking on it lol
- 668710

I’d expect the young Finns to get a look first.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 28 @ 4:19 PM ET
Curious what AZ is going to do. Most of their team will be a UFA after this season. They only have 4 Dmen on the roster. Both G's are over 30.

Avs will have to go after a G. They are in a win now mode while Mac is cheap.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 28 @ 4:19 PM ET
I mean could be the team didn't want him or he didn't want the team? Pens seem to struggle in FA. Could be cap strapped or players aren't interested?
- sammy87

I don’t buy it. Gaudreau had a nice role for us in the 3rd line. $1.2M was fair price. We gave Rodrigues (a 13th forward at best) $1M. This sucks.
I’m ok with Simon on a two-way deal btw.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 28 @ 4:20 PM ET
What is the thought process in keeping Rodrigues and letting Gaudreau walk? Jesus Christ, this can’t be that hard. They Sh!t the bed every time.
- Barnaby36

Gaudreau also has a say in the matter.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 28 @ 4:20 PM ET
I don’t buy it. Gaudreau had a nice role for us in the 3rd line. $1.2M was fair price. We gave Rodrigues (a 13th forward at best) $1M. This sucks.
I’m ok with Simon on a two-way deal btw.

- Barnaby36

Give ERod a chance.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 28 @ 4:21 PM ET
Give ERod a chance.
- Feds91Stammer


They have he sucks.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 28 @ 4:22 PM ET
This Filip Lindberg kid (he has a Swede name but he’s a Finn) might have gotten the word he’d be up from the minors by year 2.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 28 @ 4:23 PM ET
Give ERod a chance.
- Feds91Stammer

LOL
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 28 @ 4:24 PM ET
They have he sucks.
- sammy87

Exactly. He’s easy af to play against. I thought management wanted to play a heavier game.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 28 @ 4:25 PM ET
Gaudreau also has a say in the matter.
- Grinder47

If this is the case, mngmnt should say it @ the press conference.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 28 @ 4:25 PM ET
Exactly. He’s easy af to play against. I thought management wanted to play a heavyer game.
- Barnaby36

You’re crying about ERod vs Gaudreau as if it will make any difference for the pens
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jul 28 @ 4:26 PM ET
This Filip Lindberg kid (he has a Swede name but he’s a Finn) might have gotten the word he’d be up from the minors by year 2.
- Barnaby36



The way I am looking at it, Wild got Freddy, we got thier prospect Linderg... Who wouldn't have traded Freddy for a good goalie prospect?!?!?
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 28 @ 4:27 PM ET
I don’t buy it. Gaudreau had a nice role for us in the 3rd line. $1.2M was fair price. We gave Rodrigues (a 13th forward at best) $1M. This sucks.
I’m ok with Simon on a two-way deal btw.

- Barnaby36


As that wise hockey philosopher Feds91Stammer would say:

They both suck!

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