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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 29 @ 1:11 PM ET
Upstate's forward group that you all like so much has Lee being double shifted on the first and second lines!
- UIF

It’s like Schwein created that lineup.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
It’s like Schwein created that lineup.
- Cptmjl


JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
It’s like Schwein created that lineup.
- Cptmjl


According to my source Lee will also be playing on the 3rd line.

FYI - My source is Schwein.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
Upstate's forward group that you all like so much has Lee being double shifted on the first and second lines!
- UIF

Maybe Schweiner hacked his account
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:16 PM ET
It’s like Schwein created that lineup.
- Cptmjl

Self-reporting here:

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
Peter Baugh @Peter_Baugh
3m
Brandon Saad is going to the #stlblues on a five-year deal, the team announces. He spent last season with the #Avs.


UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 1:30 PM ET
Peter Baugh @Peter_Baugh
3m
Brandon Saad is going to the #stlblues on a five-year deal, the team announces. He spent last season with the #Avs.



- eichiefs9


$22.5m. Not bad at all...4 and change for a cap hit?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
$22.5m. Not bad at all...4 and change for a cap hit?
- UIF

Leaves the Blues with just over $8.5M in cap space to sign Thomas/Kyrou/Sanford/Barbashev

Have to imagine this means that they are confident that Tarasenko will get moved and/or it's getting close to going down

edit: Gross agrees with me

Andrew Gross @AGrossNewsday
now
Would think this makes a Tarasenko trade even more inevitable. Perhaps.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
At this point, how much would it even take to acquire Tarasenko? The Blues have kinda backed themselves into a corner here.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:34 PM ET
At this point, how much would it even take to acquire Tarasenko? The Blues have kinda backed themselves into a corner here.
- potvin05

I don't know, but I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out what exactly we could offer without giving up Beau. Maybe one of Bolduc or Salo (plus Bellows and maybe other assets) gets it done.

Either that, or Lou goes full-on no emotion and trades Bailey
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 1:35 PM ET
Leaves the Blues with just over $8.5M in cap space to sign Thomas/Kyrou/Sanford/Barbashev

Have to imagine this means that they are confident that Tarasenko will get moved and/or it's getting close to going down

edit: Gross agrees with me

Andrew Gross @AGrossNewsday
now
Would think this makes a Tarasenko trade even more inevitable. Perhaps.

- eichiefs9


Yep, agree. We'll see where he goes...

I'd take Saad at $4.5 over Tarasenko at $7.5 though!
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
Yep, agree. We'll see where he goes...

I'd take Saad at $4.5 over Tarasenko at $7.5 though!

- UIF

Possibly. He likely won't replicate the offensive production he had last year playing on a real good line with Kadri and Burakovsky though. He's good defensively and would have been a great fit for the third line, but that was pretty much dead the minute word got out that Parise deal was all but done here

The upside of Tarasenko is so tantalizing. If he's healthy, he'll probably easily put up 30 playing with Barzal and Lee, plus he'd vastly improve the PP. Imagine having him and either Wahlstrom or Palmieri out there on the same PP? That'd be two elite-to-very good shooters out there at once. Obviously we know the downside though, can't ignore that.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:40 PM ET
I don't know, but I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out what exactly we could offer without giving up Beau. Maybe one of Bolduc or Salo (plus Bellows and maybe other assets) gets it done.

Either that, or Lou goes full-on no emotion and trades Bailey

- eichiefs9

It’s funny you mention Bailey. I’ve seen some scenarios, by non-Isles fans, that proposed Bailey+ for Tarasenko and this was yesterday. So, he is valued and his contract isn’t terrible at all. Unlike a lot of you, I want no part of trading Beau. I think that would be a big mistake.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:43 PM ET
It’s funny you mention Bailey. I’ve seen some scenarios, by non-Isles fans, that proposed Bailey+ for Tarasenko and this was yesterday. So, he is valued and his contract isn’t terrible at all. Unlike a lot of you, I want no part of trading Beau. I think that would be a big mistake.
- potvin05

I would mostly agree with you. I'd trade Beau, but not for a 30yo injury-prone winger.

Very torn on moving Bailey. Tough to trade him 81 games before he plays 1000, all with the Isles. We'd also lose a lot of positional versatility moving on from him and are saddled with the risk of Vladdy's shoulder issues.

But outside of moving either of those two...someone would have to go...unless Barry wants to perma-roll with 13F and 5D
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:44 PM ET
I love these morons proposing Hickey and Leo in these trades. The only way StL takes any money back is with a productive player. They’re not even in a position for us to “dump” salary to.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:46 PM ET
I would mostly agree with you. I'd trade Beau, but not for a 30yo injury-prone winger.

Very torn on moving Bailey. Tough to trade him 81 games before he plays 1000, all with the Isles. We'd also lose a lot of positional versatility moving on from him and are saddled with the risk of Vladdy's shoulder issues.

But outside of moving either of those two...someone would have to go...unless Barry wants to perma-roll with 13F and 5D

- eichiefs9

In all honesty, I don’t want Bailey traded at all. His brain farts drive us, well 99% of us, absolutely crazy but he plays so many roles on this team. And, I’m being a fan here, I want him to play in the new arena and if anyone deserves to lift a Cup in this uniform, it’s him.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:46 PM ET
I would mostly agree with you. I'd trade Beau, but not for a 30yo injury-prone winger.

Very torn on moving Bailey. Tough to trade him 81 games before he plays 1000, all with the Isles. We'd also lose a lot of positional versatility moving on from him and are saddled with the risk of Vladdy's shoulder issues.

But outside of moving either of those two...someone would have to go...unless Barry wants to perma-roll with 13F and 5D

- eichiefs9


Figure it has to be Bailey or Beau with the edge being Beau traded.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
In all honesty, I don’t want Bailey traded at all. His brain farts drive us, well 99% of us, absolutely crazy but he plays so many roles on this team. And, I’m being a fan here, I want him to play in the new arena and if anyone deserves to lift a Cup in this uniform, it’s him.
- potvin05

Yea I try not to get too sentimental with players, but man that'd be a real ice cold move by Lou to jettison him right before a) his 1000 game milestone b) the new arena and c) right when the team finally turns the corner into a top-flight organization

He's the definition of a 2nd liner and too many people expected more from a 9th overall pick. Plus he's a big time playoff performer.

Everyone thinks the grass is always greener, but sometimes it isn't.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jul 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
Yea I try not to get too sentimental with players, but man that'd be a real ice cold move by Lou to jettison him right before a) his 1000 game milestone b) the new arena and c) right when the team finally turns the corner into a top-flight organization

He's the definition of a 2nd liner and too many people expected more from a 9th overall pick. Plus he's a big time playoff performer.

Everyone thinks the grass is always greener, but sometimes it isn't.

- eichiefs9

This sounds kinda nuts, even typing seems crazy, if he stays and we win, his Jersey might be hanging in the rafters one day. Crazy
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 29 @ 2:00 PM ET
It’s funny you mention Bailey. I’ve seen some scenarios, by non-Isles fans, that proposed Bailey+ for Tarasenko and this was yesterday. So, he is valued and his contract isn’t terrible at all. Unlike a lot of you, I want no part of trading Beau. I think that would be a big mistake.
- potvin05


Agree with you on Beau.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 29 @ 2:05 PM ET
Upstate's forward group that you all like so much has Lee being double shifted on the first and second lines!
- UIF

Yea I sold to chiefs it was supposed to be Beau on the 2nd
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 29 @ 2:07 PM ET
Leaves the Blues with just over $8.5M in cap space to sign Thomas/Kyrou/Sanford/Barbashev

Have to imagine this means that they are confident that Tarasenko will get moved and/or it's getting close to going down

edit: Gross agrees with me

Andrew Gross @AGrossNewsday
now
Would think this makes a Tarasenko trade even more inevitable. Perhaps.

- eichiefs9

You guys break my balls but I posted last night that the isles and blues were the only teams without a move and this was maybe what they were waiting for. It was actually from Twitter
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 29 @ 2:15 PM ET
According to my source Lee will also be playing on second pair LD.

FYI - My source is Schwein.

- JimmyP


Your source fixed your rumour.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 29 @ 2:19 PM ET

- Isleshockeyman


Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 29 @ 2:23 PM ET
I like taresenko but if he's coming then someone is leaving for and who's that, Bailey or Beau?
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