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Diamondhands
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2021

Jul 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
Fleury a 'Hawk is a pretty big deal.
- 35Tony0


Big dumb deal not getting a sweetener back to take on that much salary.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 27 @ 1:59 PM ET
So the league would not allow Seattle to draft Price and then trade him back to MTL at a lower salary, yet they allow Vegas to circumvent salary? Something else is going to happen.
- powerenforcer

How so?
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 27 @ 1:59 PM ET
Big dumb deal not getting a sweetener back to take on that much salary.
- Diamondhands

Agreed unless Stan has a deal with another team to take him for assets by retaining salary.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 27 @ 2:00 PM ET
Fleury a 'Hawk is a pretty big deal.
- 35Tony0

Pretty bad deal. $7.0 for a position we could’ve had wrapped up for half of that.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Jul 27 @ 2:02 PM ET
Big dumb deal not getting a sweetener back to take on that much salary.
- Diamondhands


I think this deal is not as dumb as ED not making us retain on keith for 2 years. MAF is coming off a great year and keith was antlicatially one of the worst D in the league when you factor he got 22 mins a game.


Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 27 @ 2:04 PM ET
I think this deal is not as dumb as ED not making us retain on keith for 2 years. MAF is coming off a great year and keith was antlicatially one of the worst D in the league when you factor he got 22 mins a game.
- kmw4631

A player we didn’t need, from a team that needed to move him, with nothing thrown in to sweeten the pot? Bad.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 27 @ 2:08 PM ET
I think this deal is not as dumb as ED not making us retain on keith for 2 years. MAF is coming off a great year and keith was antlicatially one of the worst D in the league when you factor he got 22 mins a game.
- kmw4631

Its apparent hawks are taking one last shot at the cup while towes kane are here. If hawks don't make the playoffs fleury murphy big z are traded at the tdl. In the offseason kane and towes are traded if they want to chase a cup. Maybe bowman knows he is on the hot seat and bold moves to save his job. Who knows what's going on anymore guess were in for interesting offseason.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jul 27 @ 2:09 PM ET
Stan has his #1 D and now a #1 netminder. Have to think the team will be better next year??
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 27 @ 2:09 PM ET
How so?
- Ogilthorpe2


You are a smart man, and you have been around this game long enough.
Diamondhands
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2021

Jul 27 @ 2:10 PM ET
Agreed unless Stan has a deal with another team to take him for assets by retaining salary.
- Assman22


Yes, but would they have made an official announcement if they were just going to trade him? It’s on FB that we acquired him.
Lido_Shuffle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.10.2012

Jul 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
Stan has his #1 D and now a #1 netminder. Have to think the team will be better next year??
- z1990z


They are better in net. How much better is Jones than Duncs? Other then that, it's still the same team as last year.

Still a big unknown on Toews, Nylander, Guadette, Dach, De Haan. Lots of ways this team could go.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 27 @ 2:22 PM ET
Yes, but would they have made an official announcement if they were just going to trade him? It’s on FB that we acquired him.
- Diamondhands

Fleury still deciding if wants to retire or not. Are the hawks better yes are they playoff team imo right now no but have to think more moves are coming if not its very confusing two questionable trades in which we gave up a lot cap space draft capital and a promising young d man. Just confusing.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 27 @ 2:23 PM ET
They are better in net. How much better is Jones than Duncs? Other then that, it's still the same team as last year.

Still a big unknown on Toews, Nylander, Guadette, Dach, De Haan. Lots of ways this team could go.

- Lido_Shuffle


JC the great communicator will lead us to the the Promised Land.
Q-stache
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 11.20.2015

Jul 27 @ 2:25 PM ET
Stan does nothing: FIRE STAN!

Stan makes aggressive moves: FIRE STAN!

CSKA1981
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jul 27 @ 2:26 PM ET
They are better in net. How much better is Jones than Duncs? Other then that, it's still the same team as last year.

Still a big unknown on Toews, Nylander, Guadette, Dach, De Haan. Lots of ways this team could go.

- Lido_Shuffle


Anything can happen, but I would imagine having healthy Toews, Dach, Nylander, Guadette and others will make the team significantly better.
Q-stache
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 11.20.2015

Jul 27 @ 2:28 PM ET
This might not work out, but I believe the Hawks are trying to get better right now. I'd rather see these types of aggressive moves than more wasted years doing nothing while Toews & Kane get older. This is a win now league.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 27 @ 2:31 PM ET
A player we didn’t need, from a team that needed to move him, with nothing thrown in to sweeten the pot? Bad.
- Ogilthorpe2

Agreed you never know what you get with him in the playoffs but besides that, Vegas should have eaten at least $2M just because.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 27 @ 2:36 PM ET
Has anyone noticed Lankinen is not signed yet?
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 27 @ 2:37 PM ET
Has anyone noticed Lankinen is not signed yet?
- rpeters01


Yes he is.
Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Jul 27 @ 2:38 PM ET
There are a lot of ways this could play out. Sure, it would have been nice if Vegas retained salary. Really not much of a bad situation.

Scenario 1 - Fleury retires. No big deal. The guy they traded away (Hakkarainen) probably wasn't on anyone's radar to even sniff the NHL.

Scenario 2 - Fleury is traded before the season. Hawks send him to a team that he wants to play for. Package in the rights to Zadorov (or whoever). At least the Hawks are bargaining from a position of power here.

Scenario 3 - Fleury plays and he is bad. No biggie. His cap hit is off the books next year. Maybe someone picks him up for picks the the trade deadline.

Scenario 4 - Fleury plays and he is decent/good. Offer him a 2 year deal for 3.5 mil or trade him away for even better picks.

Scenario 5 - Fleury is awesome. Trade him at the deadline and fleece the other team.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jul 27 @ 2:38 PM ET
Has anyone noticed Lankinen is not signed yet?
- rpeters01

He has a contract for 21/22 season, then UFA.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 27 @ 2:39 PM ET
He has a contract for 21/22 season, then UFA.
- Angotti

He's not listed on the front page here.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jul 27 @ 2:40 PM ET
He's not listed on the front page here.
- rpeters01

See CapFriendly.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 27 @ 2:41 PM ET
There are a lot of ways this could play out. Sure, it would have been nice if Vegas retained salary. Really not much of a bad situation.

Scenario 1 - Fleury retires. No big deal. The guy they traded away (Hakkarainen) probably wasn't on anyone's radar to even sniff the NHL.

Scenario 2 - Fleury is traded before the season. Hawks send him to a team that he wants to play for. Package in the rights to Zadorov (or whoever). At least the Hawks are bargaining from a position of power here.

Scenario 3 - Fleury plays and he is bad. No biggie. His cap hit is off the books next year. Maybe someone picks him up for picks the the trade deadline.

Scenario 4 - Fleury plays and he is decent/good. Offer him a 2 year deal for 3.5 mil or trade him away for even better picks.

Scenario 5 - Fleury is awesome. Trade him at the deadline and fleece the other team.

- Tanuki

And we keep a lottery pick.
Lido_Shuffle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.10.2012

Jul 27 @ 2:42 PM ET
He's not listed on the front page here.
- rpeters01


capfriendly is your friend. He's signed for 800K cap hit this year. UFA next.
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