well the player did not want to be drafted. Montreal (frank)ed up by drafting him putting a lot of scrutiny on the player.
- mr.peanut

yeah he didn't want to be drafted, but then was basically "forced into it"... that part I don't quite get.

as I said it's a questionable choice considering the market, but if the league won't allow him to retract himself from the draft then that's just silly.

If you think they didn’t talk to him before they drafted him, you and AK27 should talk pay cuts..
- pete26

He said there was no discussion with them.

a lot of hypocrisy going on... "oh of course I believe in rehabilitation and giving people a second chance, just not in my city".
- Pat1993

Reminds me of Adonis Stevenson, the boxer, shortly after he became world champion at 36. The never do wrongers would constantly bring up his past as a pimp during his early twenties, even when the man did his time in prison, apologized to her victims and helped young black communities in Montreal to stay out of the streets. Some of them even cheered when he was put in a coma in his last fight against Gvozdyk, saying it was karma and he deserved it. At this point, Mailloux should just go radio silence for a couple of years and work on his craft because no matter what you do to appease the lynch mob, it's never enough for those hypocrites. They believe in rehabilitation but hey, don't you dare become someone successful and better than me, because I will do whatever it takes to drag you down below my status.

well the player did not want to be drafted. Montreal (frank)ed up by drafting him putting a lot of scrutiny on the player.
- mr.peanut

I am still convinced if Montreal passes him, he gets drafted elsewhere.

That was the victim's issue. He only apologized because he was told to and felt it lacked sincerity.

An article was written prior to the draft
- mr.peanut

you seem to have privileged information on the whole thing

I am still convinced if Montreal passes him, he gets drafted elsewhere.
- Scabeh

Then that team would have to deal with what montreal, rightfully or wrongfully, got

He said there was no discussion with them.
- mr.peanut

He said there was no discussion between his statement and the draft.

They did talk to him before his statement.

He said there was no discussion between his statement and the draft.

They did talk to him before his statement.
- Scabeh

That was my reply to macho pete

He said there was no discussion with them.
- mr.peanut

So you know him.

Say hi from me..

Reminds me of Adonis Stevenson, the boxer, shortly after he became world champion at 36. The never do wrongers would constantly bring up his past as a pimp during his early twenties, even when the man did his time in prison, apologized to her victims and helped young black communities in Montreal to stay out of the streets. Some of them even cheered when he was put in a coma in his last fight against Gvozdyk, saying it was karma and he deserved it. At this point, Mailloux should just go radio silence for a couple of years and work on his craft because no matter what you do to appease the lynch mob, it's never enough for those hypocrites. They believe in rehabilitation but hey, don't you dare become someone successful and better than me, because I will do whatever it takes to drag you down below my status.
- AK27

yeah I'm not sure the comparison with Adonis is the best one, but I get what you're saying. people want to appear compassionate and righteous, while having the power to completely cancel someone without any possibilities of redemption.

He said there was no discussion between his statement and the draft.

They did talk to him before his statement.
- Scabeh

What about his agent??

What about his agent??
- pete26

THE STORY DOESN'T SAY!

THE STORY DOESN'T SAY!
- Scabeh

mr. peanut surely has the info

yeah I'm not sure the comparison with Adonis is the best one, but I get what you're saying. people want to appear compassionate and righteous, while having the power to completely cancel someone without any possibilities of redemption.
- Pat1993

Agreed.

Adonis tortured and beat young girls for years.

Mailloux shared an intimate picture without consent.

Not even close.

THE STORY DOESN'T SAY!
- Scabeh

HANG ALL INVOLVED IN THIS!!

if you find it's wrong for the habs to draft him, then it should be wrong for all teams, and the league should put in rules that forbid players to participate in the draft in the first place if they have unacceptable conduct on their record...
- Pat1993

It would be wrong for any other team to draft him the Yotes proved that last year. No team is untouchable. That being said I do think some other teams wouldn’t have felt as much public heat, the Habs just happen to be considered a bit of a gold standard team with them being an original six team etc. so being drafted by them is seen as a reward. They so have a lot of media attention.

If he had been taken in a later round maybe it wouldn’t have been as much of an issue because people would have seen that as some kind of consequence for his actions, dropping in the draft ranking. I think what makes people angry is the fact that his actions were seemingly consequence free.

Agreed.

Adonis tortured and beat young girls for years.

Mailloux shared an intimate picture without consent.

Not even close.
- Scabeh

torture? holy poop.. not aware of the whole story (and not really interested in knowing it either lol)

torture? holy poop.. not aware of the whole story (and not really interested in knowing it either lol)
- Pat1993

Pretty close comparison though.

-AK..

It would be wrong for any other team to draft him the Yotes proved that last year. No team is untouchable. That being said I do think some other teams wouldn’t have felt as much public heat, the Habs just happen to be considered a bit of a gold standard team with them being an original six team etc. so being drafted by them is seen as a reward. They so have a lot of media attention.

If he had been taken in a later round maybe it wouldn’t have been as much of an issue because people would have seen that as some kind of consequence for his actions, dropping in the draft ranking. I think what makes people angry is the fact that his actions were seemingly consequence free.
- 13sundin13

oh come on... "you've been a naughty boy, so a professional hockey team will draft you, but only in a later round"... if people consider this as an actual consequence then that's just dumb.

oh come on... "you've been a naughty boy, so a professional hockey team will draft you, but only in a later round"... if people consider this as an actual consequence then that's just dumb.
- Pat1993

And again, linking Mailloux with the guy the Yotes drafted... who terrorized and bullied a disabled black kid for YEARS... not in the same ballpark at all.

And I'm not trying to say what Mailloux did was ok. It was a criminal act and completely offensive to the victim. He deserved to be called out on it.

Anyway, going to bet to beat that dead horse in my sleep.

oh come on... "you've been a naughty boy, so a professional hockey team will draft you, but only in a later round"... if people consider this as an actual consequence then that's just dumb.
- Pat1993

I dunno, that would be my only explanation as to why people would be less mad about it. First round picks come with a certain level of prestige and maybe contract money over a 6th rounder.

In the end it’s all about public perception, if you’re good enough at PR you can sell anything to the public. The Habs have so far not done an amazing job since pretty much every media person and a majority of the public have blasted the pick, while most of the Habs responses have come up pretty empty. I’m sure it blows over, the Habs are banking on it, but that seems to be the situation right now.

I dunno, that would be my only explanation as to why people would be less mad about it. First round picks come with a certain level of prestige and maybe contract money over a 6th rounder.

In the end it’s all about public perception, if you’re good enough at PR you can sell anything to the public. The Habs have so far not done an amazing job since pretty much every media person and a majority of the public have blasted the pick, while most of the Habs responses have come up pretty empty. I’m sure it blows over, the Habs are banking on it, but that seems to be the situation right now.
- 13sundin13

I don't think any sort of PR campaign could really have prevented any of the criticism, cancel culture is all over the place. besides this should be seen as a league issue and dealt as such, not as a "team that chooses the guy" issue.

I don't think any sort of PR campaign could really have prevented any of the criticism, cancel culture is all over the place. besides this should be seen as a league issue and dealt as such, not as a "team that chooses the guy" issue.
- Pat1993

Fair enough, I agree that the league also should be taking a lot of the heat because it’s a larger issue than hockey and they would be responsible for that. Not surprisingly they are very quiet right now.

As for the PR thing, it was more of a theoretical. People will be mad yeah, everyone has a right to feel whatever they want about it, I just think that there is probably a way to spin it so there might have been less public outcry, the Habs just couldn’t. It would have been very hard and I have no idea how, but from what I’ve seen from what various politicians and public figures get away with in the past, anything is possible…

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- MONSTERSofMETALZ

Luke Richardson coached this guy for 3 years in Binghampton and used him heavily. Gotta think he had a hand in this.

well the player did not want to be drafted. Montreal (frank)ed up by drafting him putting a lot of scrutiny on the player.
- mr.peanut

And this is the crux of the whole situation. I'm the end, the organization essentially made exactly the same mistake as the kid did when he shared that picture and information. They did something against the consent of the opposing party, and now they're paying the price for it in the court of popular opinion. The infraction is not what's relevant, it's the consent, and it was ignored by the Habs, so now they have to deal with it.