Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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Why would Nashville pay anything?
If he's on LTIR with Habs it has no impact on Nashville.
What am I missing here? - Nasty_Duck
It's not the LTIR, it's the possible retirement afterwards. |
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Not at that time, it would have been a horrible look. They were building something and loosing him would have killed it.
They had just lost Suter and the RIM guy was circling. Everyone in Canada (esp MTL) basically said Nashville "didn't deserve" a team (whatever that meant) - farooge
Ball-silly or Silly-balls or whatever was a good amount before this. Point is Nashville did have a choice and they made it. 4 1st round picks isn't a slap in the face and you could argue if they took it they're a significantly better team today than they currently are (although they'd lose their scf run - like a run that ends in a loss matters - yeah I said it) |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Bergy just found Danault's replacement
JDLR will be UFA, did not get a qualification offer - Symba007
it's absolutely astounding to me that that guy has somehow managed to play in the NHL for 8 years.
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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it's absolutely astounding to me that that guy has somehow managed to play in the NHL for 8 years. - DoubleDown
8 games should have been enough |
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Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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if he retires before the end of the contract (still 5 y to go) it will impact Nash on the cap. like seriously. - fidopro
Ding ding! As it is, they're lucky they changed the recapture terms. It used to be that they'd be penalized 24M plus in his final year. Now the amount can't exceed his cap hit, but the amount remains the same, hence the 7.8M hit until 2030. |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: No, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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it's absolutely astounding to me that that guy has somehow managed to play in the NHL for 8 years. - DoubleDown
he was once praised by the great Adam French as a fantastic pick by MTL |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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I see the Habs sending Weber back to Nash for a "B" prospect...nothing crazy. I can't see the Habs trying to screw the Preds over this. - Symba007
because if there's one thing we know about Marc Bergevin, it's his concern with optics
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Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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because if there's one thing we know about Marc Bergevin, it's his concern with optics - DoubleDown
He won't be making the decision. Shea won't retire until he sees how the surgeries go. Bergy will be gone by then. |
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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He won't be making the decision. Shea won't retire until he sees how the surgeries go. - Darksyde
oh absolutely, not before next summer imo |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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He won't be making the decision. Shea won't retire until he sees how the surgeries go. - Darksyde
for sure. earliest he would retire i would say is before the 22-23 season.
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Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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It's not the LTIR, it's the possible retirement afterwards. - Darksyde
How will Nashville prevent him from retiring IF he actually wanted to forgo the 12M he is still owed on the contract?
Even IF he retires, I really don't see the NHL punishing Nashville.
1) they did not create the contract
2) The "penalty" did not exist when they matched the offer sheet
3) The penalty to NJ for Kovalchuk was rescinded I believe
The NHL will find a way around it and not cropple one of their teams.
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Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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How will Nashville prevent him from retiring IF he actually wanted to forgo the 12M he is still owed on the contract?
Even IF he retires, I really don't see the NHL punishing Nashville.
1) they did not create the contract
2) The "penalty" did not exist when they matched the offer sheet
3) The penalty to NJ for Kovalchuk was rescinded I believe
The NHL will find a way around it and not cropple one of their teams. - Nasty_Duck
Nashville will pay him the 12M to stay at home in LTIR...I know Montreal could do the same, but to not take advantage of the situation would be lazy. Respectful, yes, but lazy.
Kovalchuk was told if he was to "retire", he couldn't come back until his existing contract ended. When he came back a year or so early, NJ still held his rights, and had to go through waivers, etc... He couldn't just sign with a new team. |
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Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.20.2012
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Nashville will pay him the 12M to stay at home in LTIR...I know Montreal could do the same, but to not take advantage of the situation would be lazy. Respectful, yes, but lazy.
Kovalchuk was told if he was to "retire", he couldn't come back until his existing contract ended. When he came back a year or so early, NJ still held his rights, and had to go through waivers, etc... - Darksyde
How does MON take advantage? What happens when Nashville says get bent?
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Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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How does MON take advantage? What happens when Nashville says get bent? - Nasty_Duck
Then Weber retires early, and Nashville gets nailed with a cap penalty of 7.8M until 2030, per the penalty, which was already restructured recently.
Edit: Nothing really changes for Weber, it's Nashville that has to worry. |
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Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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And for those who are saying the penalty is unfair, yeah, but so was the manipulation of the contract to lower the cap hit. Even if the terms weren't written by Nashville, they were agreed to by Nashville, hence them paying the penalty. |
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SHabs
Montreal Canadiens |
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Joined: 07.23.2021
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i think the chances of Danault returning are higher than most think. i don't blame him for testing the market. he's hoping there's a big score out there but if there's not, the Canadiens will be there as a fallback option. he knows the Habs are likely unable to properly replace him and will welcome him back. - DoubleDown
If the money isn’t already spent on other players! |
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Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON Joined: 07.11.2007
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(No, I'm not that up to date on contract minutiae, I was just talking about it over lunch with a friend this weekend, and we looked it all up.) |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: No, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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Habs will sign Nick Bonino on wednesday |
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Karine
Hains
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Lévis, QC Joined: 10.27.2018
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The Canadiens have submitted qualifying offers to six players, including Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Artturi Lehkonen and Ryan Poehling. |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: No, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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The Canadiens have submitted qualifying offers to six players, including Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Artturi Lehkonen and Ryan Poehling. - Karine Hains
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Canadiens Montréal
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The Canadiens have submitted qualifying offers to six players, including Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Artturi Lehkonen and Ryan Poehling. |
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Fredobbface
Calgary Flames |
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Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC Joined: 07.31.2008
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Qualifying offers have submitted by the Canadiens to half a dozen players, including but not limited to Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Artturi Lehkonen and Ryan Poehling. |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: No, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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Renaud "Synchronized pushups" Lavoie
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@TVA Sports Only Joseph Blandisi and Jacob Luchini did not receive their QO. They are now UFA. #TVA Sports
@CanadiensMTL
@TVASports
PS: @TVA Sports |
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Fredobbface
Calgary Flames |
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Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC Joined: 07.31.2008
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Renaud "Synchronized pushups" Lavoie
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@TVA Sports Only Joseph Blandisi and Jacob Luchini did not receive their QO. They are now UFA. #TVA Sports
@CanadiensMTL
@TVASports
PS: @TVA Sports - Symba007
La petite italie est en deuil
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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La petite italie est en deuil - Fredobbface
how about that Canadian mens soccer team
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: No, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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how about that Canadian mens soccer team - DoubleDown
2-0 vs Costa Rica, playing Mexico on thursday?
saw that on Sports 30 at lunch |
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