mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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I'm not bitter about Marner any more, that has passed... To me, it's all about cap space now.. How can they improve the team with less than $10M left in cap space? Dubas has said that they are looking at brining in 2 or 3 more forwards, a defenseman like Bogosian and a goalie to play with Campbell...
How do they add 5 valuable pieces with less than $10M in cap space..
Marner is a highly skilled, offensively gifted and dynamic player that can change a game, but to me, to address 5 needs (assuming Dubas is telling the truth) they can't do it.. Not unless they move out one of the big 4. - PatC80
Exactly this. I think Marner is a star winger and is crazy talented.
That cap hit though. |
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Aaron_85
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Martinez was expensive
Bennett was too. |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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We have several of them - Fakepartofme
Yes, but one of those contracts looks a couple million worse than the others. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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In:
Dougie Hamilton - 9M
Gabriel Landeskog - 7.5M
Out:
Marner - 10.9M
Rielly - 5M
That is what I would do.
Fantasy insanity, but it's so clean and beautiful I can't help but indulge. - mjones242
Put the bong down and back away slowly... |
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Canada Cup
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I think it's 2 Fwds plus a goalie with ~ 9M to spend. Any more additions will mean someone is probably getting subtracted.
Still not sexy though.
Here's hoping Robertson is having one hell of a summer and is ready to make the jump. - The Law
Kerfoot is the swing guy if they want sexy |
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TVR.MapleLeafs
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 10.09.2020
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i decided we should make Carter Rowney our top priority signing this offseason |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Put the bong down and back away slowly... - bixll
That is precisely the last thing I should do.
How else can I deal with the pain than living in a drug-fueled fantasy world? |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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In:
Dougie Hamilton - 9M
Gabriel Landeskog - 7.5M
Out:
Marner - 10.9M
Rielly - 5M
That is what I would do.
Fantasy insanity, but it's so clean and beautiful I can't help but indulge. - mjones242
I think we age quite a bit and maybe get better? How many years does Landy have left, he’s 29 in Nov. We’ll have to give him 7 years and $8 maybe?
Edit: his last 5 playoff games 2 assists and -7 😱 |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Kerfoot is the swing guy if they want sexy - Canada Cup
He needs to go, overpaid IMO
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Hawks pondering not qualifying Pius Suter due to his likely high arb case.
This is why there will be no trades until Wednesday..A guy like this could be had.
Also a former Auston Matthews teammate in Zurich, often linemate as well.
25 year old C. 27 points in 55 games.
Could be a guy that can slot with AM as well on a cheap deal. |
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Archaic
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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I wish that Dubas was interested in Hamilton, I'd trade Reilly to make that happen. They could get assets back for Reilly and sign Hamilton
Muzzin-Hamilton
Sandin-Brodie
Dermott-Holl |
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Archaic
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Martinez was expensive
Bennett was too. - Aaron_85
That's an awful contract for Bennett |
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The Law
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Kerfoot is the swing guy if they want sexy - Canada Cup
I think so - if he's viewed as a 3rd liner it's too much cap hit.
Kerfoot and Dermott AAV = 5M
trade and replace with
Bogosian type and a physical 3rd liner = 3.5 to 4M
That's 1M+ in space to add to the allocation in goal or another forward. |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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In:
Dougie Hamilton - 9M
Gabriel Landeskog - 7.5M
Out:
Marner - 10.9M
Rielly - 5M
That is what I would do.
Fantasy insanity, but it's so clean and beautiful I can't help but indulge. - mjones242
I dont think this makes us better.
Gab hasnt been great for several playoffs and you would have to sign them both long term. Gab's contract wont age well IMO |
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shack67
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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I’m old as (frank) and I hope dubass gets gonnareah in the mouth 😡 - Skalapy
But you feel that way about pretty much everyone. |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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I wish that Dubas was interested in Hamilton, I'd trade Reilly to make that happen. They could get assets back for Reilly and sign Hamilton
Muzzin-Hamilton
Sandin-Brodie
Dermott-Holl - Archaic
Unless Dubas knows Rielly will sign for under 6m per, he has to be traded.
However, Dubas wont do a damn thing.
Rielly will walk for free. |
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shack67
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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I wish that Dubas was interested in Hamilton, I'd trade Reilly to make that happen. They could get assets back for Reilly and sign Hamilton
Muzzin-Hamilton
Sandin-Brodie
Dermott-Holl - Archaic
But there has to be interest from Hamilton. |
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Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Better, got my feeling back in my left toes finally. It was the last thing keeping me in the hospital. Thankfully it was very minor, so I shouldn't have any lasting damage. - AdamFrench
Glad you are feeling better French |
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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But there has to be interest from Hamilton. - shack67
Sounds like NJD is backing up the truck. |
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Mike Augello
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.25.2006
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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I'm not bitter about Marner any more, that has passed... To me, it's all about cap space now.. How can they improve the team with less than $10M left in cap space? Dubas has said that they are looking at brining in 2 or 3 more forwards, a defenseman like Bogosian and a goalie to play with Campbell...
How do they add 5 valuable pieces with less than $10M in cap space..
Marner is a highly skilled, offensively gifted and dynamic player that can change a game, but to me, to address 5 needs (assuming Dubas is telling the truth) they can't do it.. Not unless they move out one of the big 4. - PatC80
Ok. Well, first off let me say this is NOT me being a Richard or anything. I'm saying let's play that game. What do we trade Marner for? What can we get for him that someone is willing trade that we would want to take back? I'm ruling out Karlsson, Burns, Doughty, Josi, Subban, Makar, Jones, Pietrangelo, Heiskanen, Carlson, Hedman, Weber, Dahlin, Ekblad and Chabot because they are either too old or their teams value them too much or they are divisional rivals. The young-ish guys that come to mind are Byram or Chychrun, and I'm fairly certain neither Colorado nor Arizona would want to take on Marner's cap hit or salary (even though it was front loaded, he still makes over $10m this year and $8m for the next 3 years).
So we trade Marner for some package of futures, but I don't see a deal for an elite top-level pairing that realistically exists.
?? - Matthews - ??
?? - Tavares - Nylander
Engvall - Kerfoot - Mikheyev
Spezza - Brooks - Simmonds
Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Liljegren
Campbell
??
Now we have about $20m in space because we've traded Marner.
The market:
Hamilton: $9m
Landeskog $7.5m
Hoffman: $5m
Schwartz: $5m
Coleman: $4.5m
Danault: $4.5m
Saad: $4m
Palmieri: $4m
Martinez: $4m
Savard: $3.5m
Foligno: $3.5m
Granlund: $3m
Getzlaf: $2m
Bonino: $2.5m
Vatanen: $2m
Alot of the other guys probably in the $1.5 - $3m range . . .like Kahun, Nash, Hutton, Raffl, Dzingel, etc.
Binnington: $8m
Mrazek: $4.5m
Raanta: $4m
Halak: $3m
Bernier: $3m
Reimer: $3m
If I were to go first, I'd start by getting Hamilton and trading Rielly, so there's $16m in space left. Sign Mrazek, $11.5m in space left. Schwartz, Bonino and Granlund or Foligno? Is that a significantly better team? I don't know.
Schwartz - Matthews - Nylander
Granlund - Tavares - Kerfoot
Engvall - Bonino - Mikheyev
Spezza - Brooks - Simmonds
Hamilton - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Liljegren
Campbell
Mrazek
Trading Marner gives us flexibility, but I don't know what the flexibility gets us right now. Other than a new scapegoat.
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Hawks pondering not qualifying Pius Suter due to his likely high arb case.
This is why there will be no trades until Wednesday..A guy like this could be had.
Also a former Auston Matthews teammate in Zurich, often linemate as well.
25 year old C. 27 points in 55 games.
Could be a guy that can slot with AM as well on a cheap deal. - Santo_44
He could also play 3C. |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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I dont think this makes us better.
Gab hasnt been great for several playoffs and you would have to sign them both long term. Gab's contract wont age well IMO - Fakepartofme
Landeskog has 45pts in 49 playoff games and had 13 in 10GP this past post-season. What are you talking about? |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Glad the jays didnt sign Trevor Bauer |
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