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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:27 PM ET
Yikes!!
- Scott1977


I don’t think the defense is that bad. But, I’d like to replace de Haan with another veteran d-man. Somebody who’s more likely to play without sustaining an injury and miss a bunch of games. Maybe Mike Reilly or somebody like that.

Kalynuk needs to play, I think the Hawks have something in him. Since they dealt Boqvist the Hawks really need a young defenseman to step up. Kalynuk played well, he’ll get a chance to continue his development.

Stillman played well too and has earned more playing time.

Seth Jones will be solid, he’s a top pairing d-man and will play 25 minutes a night.

For me, Caleb Jones is a question mark. I’m not writing him off but I don’t have any expectations that he’ll contribute next season.

I’m not sure how the Hawks will get playing time for Mitchell and/or Beaudin. Their future is promising, maybe spending most of the season in Rockford is best.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:29 PM ET
I don’t think the defense is that bad. But, I’d like to replace de Haan with another veteran d-man. Somebody who’s more likely to play without sustaining an injury and miss a bunch of games. Maybe Mike Reilly or somebody like that.

Kalynuk needs to play, I think the Hawks have something in him. Since they dealt Boqvist the Hawks really need a young defenseman to step up. Kalynuk played well, he’ll get a chance to continue his development.

Stillman played well too and has earned more playing time.

Seth Jones will be solid, he’s a top pairing d-man and will play 25 minutes a night.

For me, Caleb Jones is a question mark. I’m not writing him off but I don’t have any expectations that he’ll contribute next season.

I’m not sure how the Hawks will get playing time for Mitchell and/or Beaudin. Their future is promising, maybe spending most of the season in Rockford is best.

- DarthKane



He blows.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 25 @ 11:47 PM ET
As the defense stands now (not including Zadorov since he’s not signed):

Kalynuk - Jones
de Haan - Murphy
Stillman - Jones
Beaudin

- DarthKane

You forgot Suban.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 25 @ 11:49 PM ET
Yep, for sure the forwards have to play much better defense. Without that nobody will look great, imo. I would like to see JC demand more of that next season, using the bench as a threat.
- mohel

I would like to be in on Jordan Staal.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:59 PM ET
You forgot Suban.
- rpeters01


Ha, wouldn’t surprise me.

I’m most interested in what the Hawks will do in net this off-season. I don’t think they’ll go with Lankinen, Subban and Delia.

Do they upgrade Subban/Delia or do they upgrade Lankinen?
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:06 AM ET
I don’t think the defense is that bad. But, I’d like to replace de Haan with another veteran d-man. Somebody who’s more likely to play without sustaining an injury and miss a bunch of games. Maybe Mike Reilly or somebody like that.

Kalynuk needs to play, I think the Hawks have something in him. Since they dealt Boqvist the Hawks really need a young defenseman to step up. Kalynuk played well, he’ll get a chance to continue his development.

Stillman played well too and has earned more playing time.

Seth Jones will be solid, he’s a top pairing d-man and will play 25 minutes a night.

For me, Caleb Jones is a question mark. I’m not writing him off but I don’t have any expectations that he’ll contribute next season.

I’m not sure how the Hawks will get playing time for Mitchell and/or Beaudin. Their future is promising, maybe spending most of the season in Rockford is best.

- DarthKane

Agree need another veteran d man in case dehann goes missing again. Ian cole veteran blocks shot phyiscal average defensively can play both rd and ld wouldn't hurt to explore. 1 year contract flip tdl for 4th 5th pick if the season not going well.
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:07 AM ET
Ha, wouldn’t surprise me.

I’m most interested in what the Hawks will do in net this off-season. I don’t think they’ll go with Lankinen, Subban and Delia.

Do they upgrade Subban/Delia or do they upgrade Lankinen?

- DarthKane

reimer might be a good option
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:20 AM ET
He blows.
- Elbows15


Then he’ll fit right in!
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:22 AM ET
reimer might be a good option
- Scott1977


He could be. There could be others too once the buyout period is done.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 26 @ 12:26 AM ET
Then he’ll fit right in!
- DarthKane

Jake McCabe would be a much better signing to play with Stiff Jones.
rwilliams88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: carol stream
Joined: 02.20.2009

Jul 26 @ 12:34 AM ET
Tough.
- Elbows15

Cool
Diamondhands
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2021

Jul 26 @ 12:37 AM ET
How many more days till Bowman says “we are really happy with our team right now and don’t see any further moves?”?
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 26 @ 12:50 AM ET
Ha, wouldn’t surprise me.

I’m most interested in what the Hawks will do in net this off-season. I don’t think they’ll go with Lankinen, Subban and Delia.

Do they upgrade Subban/Delia or do they upgrade Lankinen?

- DarthKane

I think upgrading Lankinen/Suban is harder than you think. Both are capable of getting hot and when one was down the other seemed to pick the team up. Delia, he was terrible when it counted and good when the team was gassed and the games meaningless. If you look at Delia's fundamentals he is terrible and not improving.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 26 @ 1:09 AM ET
Jake McCabe would be a much better signing to play with Stiff Jones.
- Elbows15


McCabe would be a great addition, but he’ll cost more (cap-wise). If they could get McCabe for 3-4 years at a reasonable cap hit I’d be on board.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 26 @ 1:32 AM ET
How many more days till Bowman says “we are really happy with our team right now and don’t see any further moves?”?
- Diamondhands

Next year when he takes over Edmonton.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 26 @ 1:39 AM ET
McCabe would be a great addition, but he’ll cost more (cap-wise). If they could get McCabe for 3-4 years at a reasonable cap hit I’d be on board.
- DarthKane

I doubt he would cost much. He is coming off a knee injury. He may have to settle for 1-2 year deal and his max, imo, is 3-3.5M. I rather pay him slightly more than Zadorov. He is twice the player.

When healthy, he is what Zadorov is suppose to be
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 26 @ 2:01 AM ET
I don’t think the defense is that bad. But, I’d like to replace de Haan with another veteran d-man. Somebody who’s more likely to play without sustaining an injury and miss a bunch of games. Maybe Mike Reilly or somebody like that.

Kalynuk needs to play, I think the Hawks have something in him. Since they dealt Boqvist the Hawks really need a young defenseman to step up. Kalynuk played well, he’ll get a chance to continue his development.

Stillman played well too and has earned more playing time.

Seth Jones will be solid, he’s a top pairing d-man and will play 25 minutes a night.

For me, Caleb Jones is a question mark. I’m not writing him off but I don’t have any expectations that he’ll contribute next season.

I’m not sure how the Hawks will get playing time for Mitchell and/or Beaudin. Their future is promising, maybe spending most of the season in Rockford is best.

- DarthKane


I saw where a lot of people on this board were unhappy with the Jones trade. Their wrath is primarily centered around how we gave up too much future.in #1 picks for a good albeit not really strong first pair dman

Well I have talked to a few people and below are some facts to help get a better handle on the trade. Which you might feel was not so bad after all.

Where does this team start if it wants to seriously get into the playoff picture.

It starts on defense. It starts with having someone who can cover the other teams big guys. Not just the other teams star players - well, yeah that too - but coverage of the big, large size players.

You want to try to outscore everyone, really, with concussed Boqvist and "Joke e har ju."

You have to pay to play. Overpay. First glance, yes, it seems so. In dollars and sense. But in two years whom makes big dollars - just Kane and S Jones. Toews will make much less or retired.

Now what we next need is that Sillinger type. And a top offensive #2 center....More top two line players whom have some skill but preresiquite can and like to play the cycle boards game. Because teams that win in playoffs are proficient in those ways. The proof is in what you saw the past few playoff years. So Bowman brings in Jones. He basicly is moving on from Boqvist

Not that Boqvist cannot be a star player. But he is fragile

Did you catch how some feel.Montreal is choosing the right time to move on the trade value of two young talent - Kokineimi and Suzuki - if that is what it takes to bring aboard (what Bergevin believes) is a generational player [Eichel]

Well Bowman is sayng what we need is someone who can handle the big boys and is a pretty good player. It is past tense and inconsequential if Jokiharju or Boqvist ever become stud players. Because they weren't going to lead us in the future.

The future begins with a defense that can be the backbone of the team. You have to hope that Mitchell develops. Kalynuk actually is pretty good.

I feel Murphy is solid for now. I foresee Vlasic and Kaiser working out well. I like what they bring, their game and Beaudin has next season to prove he can step up. The other defense prospects, whatever....if they develop, fine but I am not looking toward Regula or even too confidant in Beaudin.

S Jones complements fast skill guys on defense. You need a balance of both even as more new age fast skill guys - even undersized- find teams pushing for their inclusion. Sometimes, though, you push too hard too soon and they aren't ready.

Example: Forsling. He is alright now though..

Example: Boqvist. He may be really good if he can stay healthy. Believe me, I liked better that other trade rumor with Kurashev and was it Mitchell and whatever because I wanted Boqvist to do well as a Blackhawk. Instead, I have to accept that he is brittle and now is the time you trade him because his value is high now. It meant landing Jones.

The drafting by Bowman/Kelly this draft sure sends a message that they believe the way to win is to get tougher, bigger. Sure they still like the European smurfs but there appears a message that the team needs to be tougher and bigger

You know Seabrook is no longer around on defense....just saying so because he was a warrior and could handle the big boys.

Now if the defense can become a strong suit, then we are in the playoff hunt. I believe we are still trying to rebuild, too, but needed this trade to happen. More youth is going to filter in, although more bottom line players than top line guys. Let us hope Reichel and Borgstrom.work out.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 26 @ 3:51 AM ET
New blog! A look at a possible game plan for the Blackhawks once the NHL free agency period begins on July 28.

Plus, thoughts on Niklas Hjalmarsson's pending retirement and whether the Hawks have his replacement in the system.

https://bit.ly/3rwKEpa
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jul 26 @ 5:49 AM ET
Who was the last 1C free agent signed???

Tavarez???
- hawk35

How is that working out?


By that reasoning I guess drafting a #1 overall is a bad strategy too...what have McDavid or Matthews done???...won nothing. I guess having the Top pick is bad!!!
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:38 AM ET
You mean 3 guys better than who they were traded to acquire? I will agree that Bovist injury history is a concern. However, if you look at the data and comps, Boqvist was moving into pretty good company. TBF, the comps are a bit all over the place due to sample size but the top comp was prime Erik Karlsson.

I wouldn't be so quick to just dismiss Boqvist is my point.

- Elbows15


I didn't, I was merely pointing out that many on the board were down on Bovquist because of injury history, and was also pointing out the at least right now, Seth Jones is a much better NHL defenseman, obviously though, my opinion from watching, not studying a chart.

In my real life, people make charts to show what point they are trying to make, and tomorrow, they can present a totally different chart to show the complete opposite point.

Sorry, just don't have the time or desire to study charts.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 26 @ 5:09 PM ET
If and it's a big if, Caleb and Seth can be an effective pairing, this might actually work.
- BetweenTheDots

This. 9.5 mil and 850k for your top line.
Tyler Cameron
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 26 @ 6:55 PM ET
McCabe would be a great addition, but he’ll cost more (cap-wise). If they could get McCabe for 3-4 years at a reasonable cap hit I’d be on board.
- DarthKane


McCabe is high on my wish list.
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