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mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 25 @ 6:36 PM ET
Apparently Jones wanted to wear #6 but Stan isn’t ready to let anyone wear that number out of respect for Maatta.
- DarthKane


That's well played.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:40 PM ET
Unwarranted? How so? The stats have clearly exposed how negligent this trade was and how bad of a contract it is needed will hinder the progress of this team. Jones is clearly on the decline and you don’t trade that much for a guy who only had a couple of teams he was willing to sign with.

Bowman is getting most of the heat.

- Diamondhands
don't worry bowman won't be much longer imo. New information with the investigation and how upper management people knew what happen plus if hawks get off to horrible start wirtz's will have make a decision and should be fire anyone who still with organization that knew about.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 25 @ 6:42 PM ET
don't worry bowman won't be much longer imo. New information with the investigation and how upper management people knew what happen plus if hawks get off to horrible start wirtz's will have make a decision and should be fire anyone who still with organization that knew about.
- Scott1977

You think Wirtz didn't know about it...
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
You think Wirtz didn't know about it...
- rpeters01

If he did the nhl should heavily fine the hawks and strip them of picks. We all will know more when the dust settles on this case.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
I have a new blog focusing on this coming up. Stay tuned.
- Theo Fox


Hey Theo, just wanna mention how nice of an in depth, cover all bases lead up to coverage of and post draft work you've done. Nicely done.

An internet bud of mine who follows the USHL as close as anyone also loves youth and midget hockey, watches all the 14-15-16 yr olds tournaments and gets to a few of them called me today to talk World Junior Summer Showcase and the draft. He's my guy for heads up on 16-17 yr olds coming into the USHL.

Asked him about Allan. Right away said nasty dude. Straight outa 1970. Thinks he's a nasty 16-18 minute shutdown guy if he makes the bigs. ..... Asked him do you take Buium, Morrow or Peart ahead of Allan? He said all 3. Likes Allan but maybe late rd 2 or rd 3....... Since they didn't have another pick until 62 maybe they didn't wanna chance not getting Allan.

Seems the direction the Hawks went is guys who fit the hard to play against high floor types figuring they have speed/skill that they like.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
If he did the nhl should heavily fine the hawks and strip them of picks. We all will know more when the dust settles on this case.
- Scott1977


Fined for what?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 25 @ 7:05 PM ET
Hey Theo, just wanna mention how nice of an in depth, cover all bases lead up to, coverage of and post draft work you've done. Nicely done.

In internet bud of mine who follows the USHL as close as anyone also loves youth and midget hockey, watches all the 14-15-16 yr olds tournaments and gets to a few of them called me today to talk World Junior Summer Showcase and the draft. He's my guy for heads up on 16-17 yr olds coming into the USHL.

Asked him about Allan. Right away said nasty dude. Straight outa 1970. Thinks he's a nasty 16-18 minute shutdown guy if he makes the bigs. ..... Asked him do you take Buium, Morrow or Peart ahead of Allan? He said all 3. Likes Allan but maybe late rd 2 or rd 3....... Since they didn't have another pick until 62 maybe they didn't wanna chance not getting Allan.

Seems the direction the Hawks went is guys who fit the hard to play against high floor types figuring they have speed/skill that they like.

- Mr Ricochet


I saw your response to my question last night. Thanks.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
Apparently Jones wanted to wear #6 but Stan isn’t ready to let anyone wear that number out of respect for Maatta.
- DarthKane


Or Lou Angotti.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Jul 25 @ 7:08 PM ET
I think it is a tribute to Theo that his posts attract so many trolls. Stick tap to Theo for penning the most well read blog on HB.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 25 @ 7:09 PM ET
If he did the nhl should heavily fine the hawks and strip them of picks. We all will know more when the dust settles on this case.
- Scott1977


Maybe you're onto something Scott. Stanbo knew this penalty was coming down so he beat the league to the punch.
CanHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 10.27.2020

Jul 25 @ 7:17 PM ET
don't worry bowman won't be much longer imo. New information with the investigation and how upper management people knew what happen plus if hawks get off to horrible start wirtz's will have make a decision and should be fire anyone who still with organization that knew about.
- Scott1977


Terrible all around if they knew.
Heads should roll.
And if it's TRUE the players knew and were taunting him then truly awful. I have no words.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 25 @ 7:24 PM ET
The $64,000 question for Monday is does Zadorov and which other RFA's get QO's.

Hope the fax machine is working. On 2nd thought it could be unplugged if and when Z's paperwork is submitted.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jul 25 @ 7:34 PM ET
Or Lou Angotti.
- boilermaker100

Hey! I was thinking Bob Murray.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 8:11 PM ET
I saw your response to my question last night. Thanks.
- mohel


Sure.....

I read this prospect guy named Steve Kournianos, The Draft Analyst. His board looks like no others, kinda like Wiz'. .....Was turned on to his draft day analysis in real time on his You Tube today and it's really good. Dude rattles off every team's prospect/depth list, gives context to these picks. Unless one is offended by F-bombs you'll find this guy fun and informative.... I'm on pick 7 but look forward to anything he has to say about the Hawks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4lC5S-x2vs
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 8:15 PM ET
And I know we talked again about again about the wear and tear on the guys with all those extra playoff games, but this guy might have gotten the worst of it:

@BlackhawksDzone

Niklas Hjalmarsson blocked 1,605 shots during his 14-year NHL career.
That’s the equivalent of getting hit with a puck everyday straight for over 4 years.
#Blackhawks

@JFreshHockey
Hjalmarsson was in the 97th percentile or higher at preventing scoring chances against for 10. straight. seasons. What a legend

He's hanging them up today.

- pdx2ord


The Hjalmarsson-Oduya combo was amazing on the PK. The top for of Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson and Oduya will be hard to surpass in the foreseeable future.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 8:17 PM ET
The $64,000 question for Monday is does Zadorov and which other RFA's get QO's.

Hope the fax machine is working. On 2nd thought it could be unplugged if and when Z's paperwork is submitted.

- boilermaker100


I think Zadorov gets qualified. I don’t see Stan letting any assets go for free.
Diamondhands
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2021

Jul 25 @ 8:22 PM ET
Sure.....

I read this prospect guy named Steve Kournianos, The Draft Analyst. His board looks like no others, kinda like Wiz'. .....Was turned on to his draft day analysis in real time on his You Tube today and it's really good. Dude rattles off every team's prospect/depth list, gives context to these picks. Unless one is offended by F-bombs you'll find this guy fun and informative.... I'm on pick 7 but look forward to anything he has to say about the Hawks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4lC5S-x2vs

- Mr Ricochet


If there are not f-bombs, than it’s a pointless conversation
Diamondhands
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2021

Jul 25 @ 8:25 PM ET
don't worry bowman won't be much longer imo. New information with the investigation and how upper management people knew what happen plus if hawks get off to horrible start wirtz's will have make a decision and should be fire anyone who still with organization that knew about.
- Scott1977


I put no weight in that ludicrous legal crap. The guy was old enough to call the cops.

Also, McDumbnuts was in charge and there was no way he was going to let a scandal rock the boat he created. So, if the guy wants to sue someone he should go after the man who said no.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 25 @ 8:49 PM ET
don't worry bowman won't be much longer imo. New information with the investigation and how upper management people knew what happen plus if hawks get off to horrible start wirtz's will have make a decision and should be fire anyone who still with organization that knew about.
- Scott1977


Thank God you don't run the legal system in this country
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 25 @ 8:50 PM ET
I put no weight in that ludicrous legal crap. The guy was old enough to call the cops.

Also, McDumbnuts was in charge and there was no way he was going to let a scandal rock the boat he created. So, if the guy wants to sue someone he should go after the man who said no.

- Diamondhands

First time in two days I can agree with 95% of your post! If not call the cops at least get a lawyer and let them decide "criminal or civil?"
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 25 @ 9:04 PM ET
Wow- I can't actually believe that I read that --talk of potentially people getting their undies in a twist because of wearing a former player's number... and considering how many have worn both Steve Larmer's and Doug Wilson's over the years .... if anyone actually does get upset, that seems a bit much really.

I have my doubts that anyone in that category are actually hockey fans, and probably if handed a hockey stick look at it funny and hold it like a broom ... ie too caught up in non-hockey stuff.

- SC116

Personally, I don't care if Jones or any new player on the team wants to wear a certain number. If it's not retired, then it's fair game IMO.

Yet, there are many fans who find it more forbidden or sacrilege to do so. It may be irrational but a lot of being a fan of any team or sport is irrational.

Ironically, that's what can make sports so great sometimes.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 25 @ 9:10 PM ET
Unwarranted? How so? The stats have clearly exposed how negligent this trade was and how bad of a contract it is needed will hinder the progress of this team. Jones is clearly on the decline and you don’t trade that much for a guy who only had a couple of teams he was willing to sign with.

Bowman is getting most of the heat.

- Diamondhands

The comment about the ire towards Jones unwarranted is that it's not really his fault that Bowman gave up all that he did in the trade. That's fair to channel anger toward Bowman.

Sure, Jones signed the dotted line to the contract extension but he's neither the first nor the last pro athlete to want max dollars on a new contract.

Will the contract cripple the team long term? Perhaps but it's still early to say for certain as the roster and salary cap evolves constantly.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 25 @ 9:18 PM ET
Hey Theo, just wanna mention how nice of an in depth, cover all bases lead up to coverage of and post draft work you've done. Nicely done.

An internet bud of mine who follows the USHL as close as anyone also loves youth and midget hockey, watches all the 14-15-16 yr olds tournaments and gets to a few of them called me today to talk World Junior Summer Showcase and the draft. He's my guy for heads up on 16-17 yr olds coming into the USHL.

Asked him about Allan. Right away said nasty dude. Straight outa 1970. Thinks he's a nasty 16-18 minute shutdown guy if he makes the bigs. ..... Asked him do you take Buium, Morrow or Peart ahead of Allan? He said all 3. Likes Allan but maybe late rd 2 or rd 3....... Since they didn't have another pick until 62 maybe they didn't wanna chance not getting Allan.

Seems the direction the Hawks went is guys who fit the hard to play against high floor types figuring they have speed/skill that they like.

- Mr Ricochet

Thanks and you're welcome, Rico.

The insight you shared on Allan is good stuff. Yesterday pdx2ord shared interview transcript from Allan's coach and (as an educator) I particularly liked how he described Allan's high character particularly his dedication to his academics.

I wasn't high on either Buium or Morrow, to be honest, but was hoping the Hawks would've nabbed Peart with their 2nd round pick. While I'm not upset they got Dach, he wasn't high on my list. Between Peart and Dach, I take Peart hands down.

On that note, I also wasn't that high on Boucher (at least as a 1st rounder, later rounds would've been fine) and am surprised the Senators picked him 10th overall. Between the draftees with bloodlines (Dach, Boucher, Helenius, Stillman) who were hopefuls to go in the first two rounds, Stillman was at the top of my list.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 25 @ 9:22 PM ET
I think it is a tribute to Theo that his posts attract so many trolls. Stick tap to Theo for penning the most well read blog on HB.
- Ztra

Thanks on the second part, and I think on the first part too (?). Equal opportunity blogging whether for trolls, gremlins, elves, orcs, uruk-hai, hobbitses, etc. Smurfs as well, Euro or otherwise.
rwilliams88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: carol stream
Joined: 02.20.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:04 PM ET
It was a reactionary draft by the Hawks. It wasn't a maybe on the reach. Allen was projected as a 4th, maybe late 3rd round pick.

It might be the worst draft the Hawks have had under Bowman and Kelley.

The next GM is going to have one heel of a mess to clean up.
You sure complain a lot
Also, when was the last time a 1C UFA was on the market?

- Elbows15

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