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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:09 AM ET
I am ok with the draft. Maybe a reach on the First pick. I think Bowman is still focused on being competitive in 3 years. We have a nice blend of young dmen. Some size and snarl and some wheels and offense. Several bottom 6 options. Top 6 including Kane, Debrincat, Kubalik, Reichel, Dach. Toews probably done by then. But you never know. Maybe 1C or 2c free agent center needed? Goalies Lankinen, Commesso, Soderblom. A few trades or free agents here and there. Will things pan out? Will it be a dumpster fire? Elbows may be sure we are the latter, but I am not so sure.
- Ztra

It was a reactionary draft by the Hawks. It wasn't a maybe on the reach. Allen was projected as a 4th, maybe late 3rd round pick.

It might be the worst draft the Hawks have had under Bowman and Kelley.

The next GM is going to have one heel of a mess to clean up.

Also, when was the last time a 1C UFA was on the market?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:10 AM ET
Drafted Crawford, Keith and Seabs as well. Thought he was at the helm when they drafted Tuomo too but other than Ruttuu and Seabs' his first rounders didn't pan out.

At least he gets mentioned now when people refer to "the team that Tallon built".

Now that the draft is done, it will be interesting to see what other moves the Hawks make. It's been pointed out but even with no Keith or Boqvist, it's still a pretty crowded blue line. Hopefully they can at least find Z a new home...maybe deHaan too.

- HawkintheD


Hey D… how’s it shaking?

I don’t think Stan is done. The Hawks have holes in their roster (so many holes) and I wouldn’t expect to see Stan take a big swing at Jones and stop there (but this is Stan ).

I don’t expect big moves, but there’s lots that can and needs to be done. Hopefully Stan doesn’t take away from the youth movement too much.

- trade or sign Zadorov (hopefully the former)
- trade de Haan
- re-sign Murphy (I’d like to see him signed to reasonable 3 year deal
- pick up a UFA d-man and/or forward to be flipped at the TDL
- sign/acquire a veteran goalie to help support Lankinen
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
What exactly do the Hawks have to deal that will recoup a 1st round pick? That doesn't create another one that needs to be filled?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
It was a reactionary draft by the Hawks. It wasn't a maybe on the reach. Allen was projected as a 4th, maybe late 3rd round pick.

It might be the worst draft the Hawks have had under Bowman and Kelley.

The next GM is going to have one heel of a mess to clean up.

Also, when was the last time a 1C UFA was on the market?

- Elbows15



Agreed. I doubt the Hawks get any NHL regulars from this draft. Maybe Dach, but that’s a stretch.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
What exactly do the Hawks have to deal that will recoup a 1st round pick? That doesn't create another one that needs to be filled?
- Elbows15



Sign a high quality UFA to a big 1 year deal and flip him at the TDL.
FeatheredFinn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Tampere
Joined: 11.30.2014

Jul 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
For those interested USA, FIN, SWE are playing in the World Junior Summer Showcase in Plymouth, MI this week (Canada is not there cuz of the pandemic). It's being streamed on Hockey TV. I doubt many have that subscription but you may find a link to watch. Here's one I find helpful http://onhockey.tv/index....place=sawlive&channel=tvh

USA has a Team Blue and White. Both play today. White at noon and Blue at 3:00.

Hawk's property at the tournament.

Mario Tirabassi Retweeted
Bleacher Nation Blackhawks
@BN_Blackhawks
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USA White:
Wyatt Kaiser
Landon Slaggert
Connor Kelley

USA Blue:
Drew Commesso

Sweden:
Victor Stjernborg

#Blackhawks #WJSS


The showcase schedule: https://teamusa.usahockey...0-2021-wjss-full-schedule

Thru the schedule link you'll find access to all the rosters.

- Mr Ricochet


And some guy named Aatu Räty potted four in the first game in a 5-2 win.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
Hey D… how’s it shaking?

I don’t think Stan is done. The Hawks have holes in their roster (so many holes) and I wouldn’t expect to see Stan take a big swing at Jones and stop there (but this is Stan ).

I don’t expect big moves, but there’s lots that can and needs to be done. Hopefully Stan doesn’t take away from the youth movement too much.

- trade or sign Zadorov (hopefully the former)
- trade de Haan
- re-sign Murphy (I’d like to see him signed to reasonable 3 year deal
- pick up a UFA d-man and/or forward to be flipped at the TDL
- sign/acquire a veteran goalie to help support Lankinen

- DarthKane

Your boy fell like a stone.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:14 AM ET
Sign a high quality UFA to a big 1 year deal and flip him at the TDL.
- DarthKane

Why is a high quality FA signing a one year deal with Chicago? Heck, why are signing a one year deal anyway?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:16 AM ET
Agreed. I doubt the Hawks get any NHL regulars from this draft. Maybe Dach, but that’s a stretch.
- DarthKane

It was very odd. It is almost as if they just threw away the draft on purpose.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Jul 25 @ 11:18 AM ET
What exactly do the Hawks have to deal that will recoup a 1st round pick? That doesn't create another one that needs to be filled?
- Elbows15

They do not need much to deal. They have cap space this year. They can take on a big expiring contract. I am not saying it will happen. But it is a possibility in some kind of package.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Jul 25 @ 11:19 AM ET
Why is a high quality FA signing a one year deal with Chicago? Heck, why are signing a one year deal anyway?
- Elbows15

$$$$$
They may not find high dollar long term offers from a team they want to play for. Like musical chairs, after the music stops there is always a player or two without a chair. It happens sometimes.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:23 AM ET
Why is a high quality FA signing a one year deal with Chicago? Heck, why are signing a one year deal anyway?
- Elbows15


Money.

I’m not saying that will or even could happen, just that’s how the Hawks could recount their first round pick. None of the expendable players on the roster would return a 1st round pick. They could get some 2nd round picks, but not 1st.
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Jul 25 @ 11:23 AM ET
I can't believe that CHI overpaid in the trade for Jones, and then massively overpaid him for 8 years. Wow.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:28 AM ET
They do not need much to deal. They have cap space this year. They can take on a big expiring contract. I am not saying it will happen. But it is a possibility in some kind of package.
- Ztra

Bowman hasn't shown any ability to do that at all. He took on a dog contract in Connelly and the best he did was get a pipe dream in Borgstrom and AHL tweener in Stillman.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Jul 25 @ 11:28 AM ET
I can't believe that CHI overpaid in the trade for Jones, and then massively overpaid him for 8 years. Wow.
- DARKSEID

You are so yesterday with this post. Catch up.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 25 @ 11:29 AM ET
What exactly do the Hawks have to deal that will recoup a 1st round pick? That doesn't create another one that needs to be filled?
- Elbows15


Glorious cap space

Like i said, a week from now, I may be in total female dog mode, just want to wait to see how it all plays out.

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:30 AM ET
I can't believe that CHI overpaid in the trade for Jones, and then massively overpaid him for 8 years. Wow.
- DARKSEID


The Jones deal is crippling like Bobrovsky in Florida but it’s made worse by the 8th year plus the significant assets given up to acquire him.
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
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Jul 25 @ 11:31 AM ET
You are so yesterday with this post. Catch up.
- Ztra

Sorry. I couldn't retrieve my login info until this morning. Had to chime in.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
Glorious cap space

Like i said, a week from now, I may be in total female dog mode, just want to wait to see how it all plays out.

- vabeachbear


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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:35 AM ET
Money.

I’m not saying that will or even could happen, just that’s how the Hawks could recount their first round pick. None of the expendable players on the roster would return a 1st round pick. They could get some 2nd round picks, but not 1st.

- DarthKane

I guess but I think the more attractive FAs will sign for less with contenders.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
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Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 25 @ 11:37 AM ET
The Jones deal is crippling like Bobrovsky in Florida but it’s made worse by the 8th year plus the significant assets given up to acquire him.
- DarthKane

The money is too much for sure, but the assets lost are what really hurts. C’est la vie. All we can do now is hope Seth proves us all wrong. I’ll be rooting for it, but won’t be holding my breath.

Tic-Toc Stanley, Tic-Toc.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:37 AM ET
Glorious cap space

Like i said, a week from now, I may be in total female dog mode, just want to wait to see how it all plays out.

- vabeachbear

They don't have as much of that as most think. If you take a look at the RFAs still to sign.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Jul 25 @ 11:39 AM ET
Cant wait to see what Wednesday brings
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 25 @ 11:40 AM ET
They don't have as much of that as most think. If you take a look at the RFAs still to sign.
- Elbows15


Ya, but he probably still has enough to take one bad contract in the short term, also will matter who is still here a week from now.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Jul 25 @ 11:40 AM ET
They don't have as much of that as most think. If you take a look at the RFAs still to sign.
- Elbows15

When you’re used to none, some feels like a ton.
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