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Ball Bag
Seattle Kraken
Location: WA
Joined: 01.30.2021

Jul 25 @ 4:17 PM ET
You could cheer for the expansion cousins, thier record is off the charts lol.
- Bettmanhatesus


Actually, I am.
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 25 @ 4:23 PM ET
So looking at cap friendly, here's my take on the 'core' as I keep reading about just a list of our best and/or youngest prospects as a 'core'.

Boeser
Hoglander
Pettersson
Podkolzin

Maybe/probably Richardinson, Garland

Ekman-Larsson
Schmidt
Rathbone
Hughes

Demko

Notably, I leave Bo and Miller off of this due to expiring contracts UFA. Miller will cash in I think, especially if he puts up points next couple years playing with Petey. Horvat will want to win ... and if we're not heading there I can see him walking if offered money and team primed to win.

This is just where I see the 'core' as JB has shaped it based on contracts and faith put in prospects. Again, really based on cap friendly and retainability (word?). I know Nate might not be considered core by most and maybe not by JB either, but with that contract I think he is until traded.

My point being, fairly underwhelming . Potential to be a middle of the pack team in my opinion.



neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 25 @ 4:48 PM ET
Hopefully, they'll share some of their excuses with their new teammates.
- Marwood

At least they wont be complaining about them, thats the worst!
CoolerHeads
Joined: 07.04.2015

Jul 25 @ 4:48 PM ET
Actually, I am.

- Ball Bag


Oh…no, ball…bag…is…not…a…Canucks…fan.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jul 25 @ 4:57 PM ET
Actually, I am.

- Ball Bag

They know how to run a franchise, how many top 3 picks have they had, canucks havn't had any since the Sedins.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
How can fans not like the roster & be excited?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 25 @ 5:02 PM ET
Flyers have now traded a 2021 1st, 2022 2nd, 2023 2nd, 2022 7th, Gostibehere, Myers, and Patrick to get Ellis and Ristolainen…

Fletcher the worst GM in hockey? Lol
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 25 @ 5:39 PM ET
How can fans not like the roster & be excited?
- Nighthawk

I’m excited, hopefully get over to Vancouver for a few games to support the team this year.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 25 @ 5:51 PM ET
I’m excited, hopefully get over to Vancouver for a few games to support the team this year.
- Makita

When Ottawa plays the Canucks?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 25 @ 5:56 PM ET
I’m excited, hopefully get over to Vancouver for a few games to support the team this year.
- Makita

Holes filled contracts to get done & JB usually does well there.

Still see Schmidt on the move. Hughes could be RSD in my roster thinking unless more RHD to come.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 25 @ 6:08 PM ET
Faber on Forsell…

https://mobile.twitter.co...19047989549559808/photo/1

I like it he can slide & develop. Fill in his frame & improve skating the kid could be a comer.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 25 @ 6:22 PM ET
How can fans not like the roster & be excited?
- Nighthawk


I strongly dislike 2 defenseman, until the get rid of at least one, I will not be as excited about this team as some others.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jul 25 @ 6:31 PM ET
I knowni said I'd troll but legit question.

Petey is talented enough for a 1c. Can his body hold up for 4 rounds of playoffs? All the chips are on him cause there is zero 1 c in vans future
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 25 @ 6:38 PM ET
I knowni said I'd troll but legit question.

Petey is talented enough for a 1c. Can his body hold up for 4 rounds of playoffs? All the chips are on him cause there is zero 1 c in vans future

- Jkuzzi


It's okay they won't be in a 4th round of the playoffs for a long long time.
Just being honest.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 25 @ 6:53 PM ET
So looking at cap friendly, here's my take on the 'core' as I keep reading about just a list of our best and/or youngest prospects as a 'core'.

Boeser
Hoglander
Pettersson
Podkolzin

Maybe/probably Richardinson, Garland

Ekman-Larsson
Schmidt
Rathbone
Hughes

Demko

Notably, I leave Bo and Miller off of this due to expiring contracts UFA. Miller will cash in I think, especially if he puts up points next couple years playing with Petey. Horvat will want to win ... and if we're not heading there I can see him walking if offered money and team primed to win.

This is just where I see the 'core' as JB has shaped it based on contracts and faith put in prospects. Again, really based on cap friendly and retainability (word?). I know Nate might not be considered core by most and maybe not by JB either, but with that contract I think he is until traded.

My point being, fairly underwhelming . Potential to be a middle of the pack team in my opinion.

- Sayros


Swap Bo and Boeser. The team will pay Bo to stick around. Boeser is more likely to be trade bait at some point or price himself out of town
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
Swap Bo and Boeser. The team will pay Bo to stick around. Boeser is more likely to be trade bait at some point or price himself out of town
- TheGame316


I think you could swap Myers and Schmidt as well.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 25 @ 7:02 PM ET
Just because there hasn’t been enough whining lately…


Jim Benning is basically a shifty contractor. You bought a perfect, waterfront lot, and hired Jim to build your dream house. His quote is 24 months and $400/sq ft. You agree and put up a significant deposit and he gets to work.

Four months in you start to realize he doesn’t really know what he’s doing. The drywallers keep showing up and the framing isn’t even finished yet. Nobody thought to hire a plumber, the marble showed up but the sizes are all wrong.

At the end of the day, it took 48 months, cost $650/sq ft and now that you’ve moved in and started to find all the small things that were done wrong, he won’t return your calls.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 25 @ 7:13 PM ET
Just because there hasn’t been enough whining lately…


Jim Benning is basically a shifty contractor. You bought a perfect, waterfront lot, and hired Jim to build your dream house. His quote is 24 months and $400/sq ft. You agree and put up a significant deposit and he gets to work.

Four months in you start to realize he doesn’t really know what he’s doing. The drywallers keep showing up and the framing isn’t even finished yet. Nobody thought to hire a plumber, the marble showed up but the sizes are all wrong.

At the end of the day, it took 48 months, cost $650/sq ft and now that you’ve moved in and started to find all the small things that were done wrong, he won’t return your calls.

- 1970vintage

Except the Canucks were a bog and there were many unknown sinkholes while trying to fix it all up and build the house.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 25 @ 7:20 PM ET
Except the Canucks were a bog and there were many unknown sinkholes while trying to fix it all up and build the house.
- Retinalz


So the 101points and playoff appearance was a mirage?

Because that’s a feather in his cap…
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 25 @ 7:20 PM ET
Schmidt for Gudas+?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 25 @ 7:25 PM ET
Schmidt for Gudas+?
- Nighthawk


They absolutely have to get either a cheaper (younger) D back, preferably right side, or draft picks so that they can address D with UFA’s.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 25 @ 7:25 PM ET
So the 101points and playoff appearance was a mirage?

Because that’s a feather in his cap…

- 1970vintage

101 points in a year that lots of teams tanked for McDavid and we had a terrible year before and after... yes it was a mirage. It was the worst season for us in decades because it made FA think we could still be a playoff team. If we sucked instead, we would have rebuilt properly.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 25 @ 7:26 PM ET
That being said, it’s still the hardest trophy in sports to win. Look at the disappointment in Colorado this year. I would have thought they’d get a lot closer. At the end of the day, close only counts in horseshoes and grenades
- Shuswap Wap

That is the exact reason why you want a continuous flow of young talent into the lineup instead of trying to jumpstart a rebuild. I really don't care about 4th round picks unless somebody shows a reason to stick around. After all, there are only so many contracts.


You're going to hit on some picks so having others waiting in the wings to come up and compete is great. Unfortunately it seems we've decided that we have enough talent in the pipeline so we can halt that process for a couple of years.

I hope it works out, because we're creating the same type of gap that Benning tried to rectify when he first got here by handing away draft picks. Had he held onto those 2nds, we likely wouldn't be trading firsts now to fill those holes.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 25 @ 7:29 PM ET
101 points in a year that lots of teams tanked for McDavid and we had a terrible year before and after... yes it was a mirage. It was the worst season for us in decades because it made FA think we could still be a playoff team. If we sucked instead, we would have rebuilt properly.
- Retinalz


Yeah, maybe. There was certainly a greater amount of false promise. I suggest the same is true of the bubble. Think they have finally turned the corner however. Hopefully the lessons of the past years will stick and they will avoid the same ones again.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 25 @ 7:31 PM ET
That is the exact reason why you want a continuous flow of young talent into the lineup instead of trying to jumpstart a rebuild. I really don't care about 4th round picks unless somebody shows a reason to stick around. After all, there are only so many contracts.


You're going to hit on some picks so having others waiting in the wings to come up and compete is great. Unfortunately it seems we've decided that we have enough talent in the pipeline so we can halt that process for a couple of years.

I hope it works out, because we're creating the same type of gap that Benning tried to rectify when he first got here by handing away draft picks. Had he held onto those 2nds, we likely wouldn't be trading firsts now to fill those holes.

- golfingsince


I don’t have a link, but I believe Benning did say something about having too many prospects and nowhere for them to play. It was his interview on SN650 after the trade.
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