Anything more than 6 years at 6 per Is retarded In the Seth Jones ordeal, This was NOT a blockbuster, The move Is a gigantic dumpster fire.
- Shady1962

No

Entwistle could be one of those being groomed to replace Kampf eventually. He needs more time in the NHL so it's fine to keep him at wing then shift him to the middle in due course.

There's also Saarela who is in Finland for another year. He's a hybrid of Kampf and Kruger but with more offense.
- Theo Fox

I'd differ on the premise of the question - Kampf has more value than at the dot. Especially given the lack of defensive ability or desire among the rest of the forwards. I recall his line giving McJesus fits. He makes small money - to me, he stays until someone shows they are better than him at his role.

You are right, a manager has a budget, however they only have authority to spend up to X amount of that budget at one time, anything over the authorized amount has to be approved. This is normal process in any business, speaking from experience. Granted I never had an $81M budget, kind of hard to have that type of budget flipping burgers.
- Angotti

True and in a public company a manager can have a billion dollar budget and a million dollar signing authority set by the BOD. Anything higher takes CEO sign off because they want the CEO to know WTF his people are spending money on.

Dach & Reichel...and to a lesser extent Borgstrom.

Still trying to figure out your math for 22-23
- NamedSources

You forget our stud Nylander.

Yes, if you count Seabrook but he will be on LTIR so that's a non issue.

Connolly won't be on this team and neither will be Carpenter.

So you are around forty million which is about 6.7 per player from the six which is completely manageable. Again...not in cap hell.
- NamedSources

Carpenter only makes a million he's just a place holder for the next million dollar body.

Imo i do think knows he at least on the hot seat. And whether he gone before the season starts due to interal investigation outcome and what is actually reveal that he possibly had hand in keeping it quiet and covering it up if that is the case. Wait all fact and due process before determining if he had wrong dueing the matter. Or if hawks fail again to make the playoffs and are in bottom of the league again he made a desperate move in acquiring jones and then double down with the 32 pick for player projected in the 4th round. So he knows his days are numbered just my look on things. One more did it seemed odd that the all women standing behind bowman looked displeased to be there as almost puppets because from my view they look happy to be there. And were there as a pr stunt. Maybe i m wrong and it was nothing.
- Scott1977

I'll go on record now and say the "investigation" will not touch Stan in any way. I truly believe his MBA taught him not to Fup in that kind of situation besides I think he has more scruples.

He gets paid to spend Wirtz’s money. That’s his job. He has a budget, he better not need to run to his boss to spend within that budget. That would be organizational dysfunction.
- Ogilthorpe2

Actually you are quite wrong. Budget does not equal signing authority typically anything over a million bucks takes CEO sign off even in the largest companies and that's set by the BOD. Without the sign off the people processing the contract won't do it. Another check and balance.

Carpenter only makes a million he's just a place holder for the next million dollar body.
- rpeters01

They tried to move in at the deadline. He is cheap...my guess it they will find a new home for him soon.

Here are the likely forwards when camp opens
Kane
Toews
Dach
Dcat
Kubalik
Suter
Kurashev
Kampf
Hagel
Entwistle
Carpenter
Connolly
Nylander
Borgstrom
Reichel
Strome
Hardman
Gaudette
maybe Hino

There will be injuries...a few will start in the rock...but a few will be traded. My guess is Carpenter or Connolly....for future late draft picks...reclamation projects or AHL depth.

Actually you are quite wrong. Budget does not equal signing authority typically anything over a million bucks takes CEO sign off even in the largest companies and that's set by the BOD. Without the sign off the people processing the contract won't do it. Another check and balance.
- rpeters01

Virtually every contract is over a million dollars. If he has to get approval for every signing, then his job is redundant.

I'll go on record now and say the "investigation" will not touch Stan in any way. I truly believe his MBA taught him not to Fup in that kind of situation besides I think he has more scruples.
- rpeters01

I think Stan survives this...unless the "internal" investigation turns up something horrible MCD was running the show and the decisions on how to proceed were his.

I believe MCD and Gary take the hit on this if it comes to that.

Everyone in the room could've believed with confidence it was taken care of..they did let him go etc. The name on the cup is wrong 100%...and if there is a letter of recommedation...another shake your head situation.

Wrong player, at the wrong time, for the wrong price (asset wise) IMO. The money matters not to me, although it seems a bit rich to me.
- Ogilthorpe2

So you are waiting for the market to go up?

So you are waiting for the market to go up?
- rpeters01

Waiting for the team to be closer to contending before wasting building block assets on a player who won’t matter when the rest of the team matters.

Virtually every contract is over a million dollars. If he has to get approval for every signing, then his job is redundant.
- Ogilthorpe2

I worked in Purchasing 10 year's you're lecturing the wrong guy. There's a higher signature than Stan's on the player contracts I would bet.

Rico, what's your take on the Hawks draft at this point?
- mohel

I wanted as many picks as possible in this draft. Due to the funk caused by the pandemic I really believe 5 yrs from now kids drafted late are gonna be useful NHLers, more so than most any yr. I think strong scouting teams like TB are gonna unearth some good ones...... Hawks? We'll see.

Unless a kid is a USHLer I have to hunt video like anyone else so I'm behind. I like back class, kids who played in the Brick Invitational, WHC-17, Hlinka, WJC's, drafted real high in CHL drafts and the Hawks have a couple who check a box or two.

Del Mastro in every important tournament except the Hlinka which was cancelled, Allan WHC and WJC same as Del Mastro, Dach drafted 6th overall as a Bantam, Harding played in the Brick, love EP's report on Stjernborg's motor, played in the WCH as a 17 yr old and this yr as an 18 yr old played 30 pro games in the top Svedish league the SHL (that's good), the Connor Kelley kid played in the WCH, played a season with the powerhouse U of MN Duluth and although his stats don't say much he played with the USNDP only 50 kids play on those two national teams out of a population of 330 million.

Would like to see them swing on a goalie every yr and they didn't. Never know when a 5th rd pick ends up as one of 32 starters. Took 4 Dmen and 4 forwards. Now that StanBow traded away this yrs and next yrs chance at a top 6 type and with the pipeline near bare of top 6 types they gotta hit late on one of them, or get one from Europe. After Dach next forward taken was at 108.

Guess I didn't answer your question cuz I really don't know. Like the look "on paper" of Allan and Del Mastro. Lotta kids with back class ...... With Jones on board does StanBow feel he can limit drafting smallish puck moving Dmen? Seems he went big at the position.

Love that the lil ole 16 team USHL had more kids drafted than any of the Major Junior leagues, IIRC all of them are 20 team leagues, (OHL, WHL, QMJHL) AGAIN!!

And of course the Mighty Chicago Steel had a bunch drafted, AGAIN. 2 in the 1st rd and think a total of 7 or 8. I'll know more tomorrow but my guess is that club had more kids drafted than any Jr team on earth. .......... Tired of StanBow check out a Steel game for 10 bucks, kids skate with the team for free after Saturday games.

I have have a feeling the Hawks hang on to Strome until there is a little more clarity on Toews' possible return.
- Rota's Rooter

Agree with you, but I think it will be over the next year unless another Center steps up as a clear top 4 (not counting Toews). There is so much unknown about Toews' condition and if, as he surmised, COVID long hauler, he may be in and out of the lineup all year.

I'd differ on the premise of the question - Kampf has more value than at the dot. Especially given the lack of defensive ability or desire among the rest of the forwards. I recall his line giving McJesus fits. He makes small money - to me, he stays until someone shows they are better than him at his role.
- mohel

No argument here. Totally agree on your assessment of Kampf.

If there's a Kampf replacement, they need to do what he does well (faceoffs, shutdown defense, extended zone time) and any offense would be icing on the cake.

It shouldn't be the other way around where there's offense but not some or none of Kampf's strengths.

Can we trade Stan Bowman for some goalie water bottles?

The Hawks have had a knack of unloading young d-men that never amounted to much.

Dylan Olsen
Shawn Lalonde
Ryan Stanton
Klas Dahlbeck
Adam Clendening (although he keeps hanging around the league)
Gustav Forsling ( Q seems to like him in Florida)

Maybe Boqvist breaks that trend. We will see.
- Rota's Rooter

...Cam Barker ...

I wanted as many picks as possible in this draft. Due to the funk caused by the pandemic I really believe 5 yrs from now kids drafted late are gonna be useful NHLers, more so than most any yr. I think strong scouting teams like TB are gonna unearth some good ones...... Hawks? We'll see.

Unless a kid is a USHLer I have to hunt video like anyone else so I'm behind. I like back class, kids who played in the Brick Invitational, WHC-17, Hlinka, WJC's, drafted real high in CHL drafts and the Hawks have a couple who check a box or two.

Del Mastro in every important tournament except the Hlinka which was cancelled, Allan WHC and WJC same as Del Mastro, Dach drafted 6th overall as a Bantam, Harding played in the Brick, love EP's report on Stjernborg's motor, played in the WCH as a 17 yr old and this yr as an 18 yr old played 30 pro games in the top Svedish league the SHL (that's good), the Connor Kelley kid played in the WCH, played a season with the powerhouse U of MN Duluth and although his stats don't say much he played with the USNDP only 50 kids play on those two national teams out of a population of 330 million.

Would like to see them swing on a goalie every yr and they didn't. Never know when a 5th rd pick ends up as one of 32 starters. Took 4 Dmen and 4 forwards. Now that StanBow traded away this yrs and next yrs chance at a top 6 type and with the pipeline near bare of top 6 types they gotta hit late on one of them, or get one from Europe. After Dach next forward taken was at 108.

Guess I didn't answer your question cuz I really don't know. Like the look "on paper" of Allan and Del Mastro. Lotta kids with back class ...... With Jones on board does StanBow feel he can limit drafting smallish puck moving Dmen? Seems he went big at the position.

Love that the lil ole 16 team USHL had more kids drafted than any of the Major Junior leagues, IIRC all of them are 20 team leagues, (OHL, WHL, QMJHL) AGAIN!!

And of course the Mighty Chicago Steel had a bunch drafted, AGAIN. 2 in the 1st rd and think a total of 7 or 8. I'll know more tomorrow but my guess is that club had more kids drafted than any Jr team on earth. .......... Tired of StanBow check out a Steel game for 10 bucks, kids skate with the team for free after Saturday games.
- Mr Ricochet

I try to get there a half dozen times a year. Good hockey, entertaining presentation, every seat is close to the play.

Safonov is 20 years old. Late picks last year (Crevier and Yetman) were older guys also.
- totem

He centered the top line in the World Junior U-20.
Did a good good.

Can we trade Stan Bowman for some goalie water bottles?
- blkhwkfn

ABC bubble gum is his worth.

...Cam Barker ...
- SC116

Ville Pokka.

Ville Pokka.
- rpeters01

Stephen Johns

His current GM's assessment of Nolan Allen

7. To learn more about first-round pick Nolan Allan, we talked with Prince Albert general manager Curtis Hunt.

What do you see as Nolan’s upside?
I think Nolan can play just about any way you want. I think the game’s easy for him. He’s got great poise, obviously the physical element we saw with Team Canada. But he’s a guy that’s getting better, better and better. He probably hasn’t had some of the offensive opportunity to this point, but certainly with junior hockey, the nature of that beast, as he goes into this season and beyond, he’ll be a mainstay on our blue line. We believe he’s going to be a top-four D at the next level.
With his physicality, what makes him so effective in that area?
Well, his timing is impeccable. It’s simply the understanding of time, space, distance. And then, of course, he’s so strong. He skates, the way he can move his body. I think it’s a missing element in a lot of our game today. We’ve gone to more of a skill, speed-type game. Not that Nolan can’t play that, but he also has this little tool in the box.

Do you see the potential for his offense and puck skills to come around?
I think this year was a tough year for everybody, but just about the time he was starting to take off, he took off and went to Team Canada. You know, we didn’t see him the last 10 games inside the hub in Regina. I think all the tools are there for him. He can walk the line. He’s got poise. He’s got a great release. He can get pucks through to the net, which is as important as anything in today’s hockey. Yeah, it’s a matter of time to simplify, but that’s a young player thing. They like to overcomplicate things. But he can make that first pass as well. He has escapability and the ability to get himself out of trouble either way.

What’s he like off the ice and personality-wise?
There’s a couple things. One, he’s a scholastic player of the year on our side. So, there’s a commitment to school. School’s not easy for junior hockey because of the travel, this year even tougher because of the online, so there’s a discipline component to that as well to make sure you’re on top of assignments and you’re getting stuff mailed in or emailed in, sent in. There’s a maturity there.
The other thing is there’s an ease about him. He comes from a bigger family, obviously a hockey family background. His dad was a Tacoma pick. His uncle was Chad, who played, an ex-Saskatoon Blade. He’s got a big group of siblings. That’s a bigger family. There’s a grounding there as part of a big family, a farm kid. He’ll put the work in and he puts the time in.

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From The Athletic

That last part makes me think that, at least personality and work ethic wise, he'd fit in nicely with DBC, Dach, Kane, etc.

Wonder if Monahan is still available with Capt Serious questionable? Strome plus a cap dump like deHaan? Would it be possible?

Also curious if Tampa pushes hard to offload cap. Can Stan still take on a cap hit like Johnson and a sweetener? You would thing picks are the needed sweetener now after the Jackets trade