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jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jul 24 @ 6:08 PM ET
That Rashevsky pick is also intriguing. Looked like Jets spent lots of time scouting in Russia this past year.

Rashevsky is also 20 years old. Could be NHL ready sooner than some other kids.

- TheUltimateJet


Rash would be 21 before the next draft and therefore Chevy must have felt some other team might have taken a chance on him in the later rounds before he becomes an undrafted UFA. Hence took a chance. I guess the upside is he is actually rated as one of the top 10 shooters in this draft class. Needs to work on his skating a D but I guess at 5th round why not roll the dice . He represents the very type of young player who might make a 5th round pick really pan out. Sure ...why not ?

It's like teaching Happy Gilmour how to putt.
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jul 24 @ 7:51 PM ET
Perfetti
Lucius
Chibrikov


All of a sudden some high skill forward prospects are in place…..the more I learn about first 2 picks the more I like our draft
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 24 @ 10:08 PM ET
I’m so thankful for the Jets amateur scouting. The pro scouts are some of the NHLs worst, but man do we hit in the draft.

I also love Ottawa hiring Pierre, and then immediately sh*tting their pants repeatedly through the whole draft
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 24 @ 10:18 PM ET
I think our first 2 picks are fantastic and wait on the rest

Trade for Dillon and/or land Savard and I’ll be ok til training camp

What was the trade going to be ? Can you tell us now?

- jjonah


Sabres wanted Heinola and our first for Ristolainen. We were trying to get them to take slightly less.
Thank fully Philly completely over paid and saved us
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jul 24 @ 10:27 PM ET
Sabres wanted Heinola and our first for Ristolainen. We were trying to get them to take slightly less.
Thank fully Philly completely over paid and saved us

- Ross77


That would have been an awful deal!! Thank you Philly
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jul 24 @ 11:04 PM ET
I’m so thankful for the Jets amateur scouting. The pro scouts are some of the NHLs worst, but man do we hit in the draft.

I also love Ottawa hiring Pierre, and then immediately sh*tting their pants repeatedly through the whole draft

- Rexypoo


Way too soon to judge the draft. Ottawa may have drafted the next Adam Lowry an our picks haven’t done anything yet either.

Among those who haven’t done anything yet are perfetti and heinola. These are still prospects with more to prove.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jul 24 @ 11:13 PM ET
Way too soon to judge the draft. Ottawa may have drafted the next Adam Lowry an our picks haven’t done anything yet either.

Among those who haven’t done anything yet are perfetti and heinola. These are still prospects with more to prove.

- 2.0


My final ranking based on where Chevy and his team was picking are :

Round 1 = A+
Round 2 = A
Round 3 = D
Round 5 = B+

The good thing is getting A's in the first two rounds is where it matters most.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 11:31 PM ET
6’6”
6’2”
6’4”
6’2”
6’1”
6’3”
6’2”

Dmen drafted in round 1

- jjonah

do you have their penii lengths and girth too?
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jul 25 @ 9:00 AM ET
I’m so thankful for the Jets amateur scouting. The pro scouts are some of the NHLs worst, but man do we hit in the draft.


- Rexypoo


WRONG again !

The Jets are no slouches when it comes to scouting with one of the larger teams out there and maybe the hardest working. While Chicago has by far the most scouts it isn't always quantity that makes the difference as a larger team can't always agree. I believe Marc Comeau also still consults for the Jets after Hiller to over as director. Add Chevy into the mix and I believe the Jets have some of the best scouting out there.

It takes seriously hard work by a team to make the right choices at the draft table and as guys like Craig Button and Brian Burke will attest, the Jets are one of the best .
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Jul 25 @ 9:54 AM ET
I'm going to call Kuzemin a bad gamble. His size will be a key constraint to hi ever making the NHL. Some offensive abilities but lots of liabilities as well. A big gamble The Jets could have done better than this.

First and second picks were top-notch straight A material . I rank this pick as a D

- jetsnation


I guess we can keep track of Kuzemin as he’s expected to play in the Ontario Hockey League with the Flint Generals in the 2021-22 season.

Not very big so he going to have to be pretty dynamic. I read that they refer to him as a possession extender in the O zone.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jul 25 @ 10:48 AM ET
do you have their penii lengths and girth too?
- penguininnevada

C'mon man, there is no need for this!
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 25 @ 10:54 AM ET
WRONG again !

The Jets are no slouches when it comes to scouting with one of the larger teams out there and maybe the hardest working. While Chicago has by far the most scouts it isn't always quantity that makes the difference as a larger team can't always agree. I believe Marc Comeau also still consults for the Jets after Hiller to over as director. Add Chevy into the mix and I believe the Jets have some of the best scouting out there.

It takes seriously hard work by a team to make the right choices at the draft table and as guys like Craig Button and Brian Burke will attest, the Jets are one of the best .

- jetsnation


You are supporting my point after telling me I’m wrong. What?

Amateur scouts = drafting, random college signings, etc. They do GOOD.
Pro scouts = all of our annually rotating 5th-liner AHL forwards and terrible 7/8 defencemen we love to over-play. They do BAD
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 25 @ 10:56 AM ET
Way too soon to judge the draft. Ottawa may have drafted the next Adam Lowry an our picks haven’t done anything yet either.

Among those who haven’t done anything yet are perfetti and heinola. These are still prospects with more to prove.

- 2.0


We drafted Adam Lowry in the 3rd round. Not jumping way ahead to pick him early in round 1.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 25 @ 10:59 AM ET
WRONG again !

The Jets are no slouches when it comes to scouting with one of the larger teams out there and maybe the hardest working. While Chicago has by far the most scouts it isn't always quantity that makes the difference as a larger team can't always agree. I believe Marc Comeau also still consults for the Jets after Hiller to over as director. Add Chevy into the mix and I believe the Jets have some of the best scouting out there.

It takes seriously hard work by a team to make the right choices at the draft table and as guys like Craig Button and Brian Burke will attest, the Jets are one of the best .

- jetsnation



Rexy said our amateur scouts (that handle the draft ) are great.

He said our pro scouts, the ones that say yes go out and get Keaton Ellerby, Anthony Bitetto, Thompson, hendricks, sbiza, and the 50’other non NHL talented players that we have signed are bad, and he’s not wrong.

The Jets do very well at the draft table but rarely find a gem when it comes to adding at the pro level. I can think of Perreault as the only decent addition in ten years, I’m probably missing one or two but the amount of misses is probably closer to 30
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:51 AM ET
Rexy said our amateur scouts (that handle the draft ) are great.

He said our pro scouts, the ones that say yes go out and get Keaton Ellerby, Anthony Bitetto, Thompson, hendricks, sbiza, and the 50’other non NHL talented players that we have signed are bad, and he’s not wrong.

The Jets do very well at the draft table but rarely find a gem when it comes to adding at the pro level. I can think of Perreault as the only decent addition in ten years, I’m probably missing one or two but the amount of misses is probably closer to 30

- Ross77

That's how I read Rexy's comments as well!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jul 25 @ 12:08 PM ET
I guess we can keep track of Kuzemin as he’s expected to play in the Ontario Hockey League with the Flint Generals in the 2021-22 season.

Not very big so he going to have to be pretty dynamic. I read that they refer to him as a possession extender in the O zone.

- Old Flopper

He was being compared to Quinn Hughes and Cale Makar on the NHL draft broadcast.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jul 25 @ 4:05 PM ET
Rexy said our amateur scouts (that handle the draft ) are great.

He said our pro scouts, the ones that say yes go out and get Keaton Ellerby, Anthony Bitetto, Thompson, hendricks, sbiza, and the 50’other non NHL talented players that we have signed are bad, and he’s not wrong.

The Jets do very well at the draft table but rarely find a gem when it comes to adding at the pro level. I can think of Perreault as the only decent addition in ten years, I’m probably missing one or two but the amount of misses is probably closer to 30

- Ross77


While at first glance I took it as a knock on the overall scouting which I disagree, I do see on second glance he is supporting amateur scouting as opposed to out pro scouts. That being said I believe the Jets have rarely lost a trade. Recently ....Demelo for a third, and the Pionk trade were both great pickups. UFA's ...I thought both Lewis and Thompson played well last year to the point their line barely gave up a goal for most of the season. They served their purpose. Let's face it your not going to find a 4th line Wayne Gretzky as a UFA. We also won the Myers , Armia trade hands down. IMHO the pro side has done a pretty decent job.

...and the big one in PLD still is too early to call but let's face it , you don't need a pro scout to make the call on that trade.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 25 @ 6:20 PM ET
While at first glance I took it as a knock on the overall scouting which I disagree, I do see on second glance he is supporting amateur scouting as opposed to out pro scouts. That being said I believe the Jets have rarely lost a trade. Recently ....Demelo for a third, and the Pionk trade were both great pickups. UFA's ...I thought both Lewis and Thompson played well last year to the point their line barely gave up a goal for most of the season. They served their purpose. Let's face it your not going to find a 4th line Wayne Gretzky as a UFA. We also won the Myers , Armia trade hands down. IMHO the pro side has done a pretty decent job.

...and the big one in PLD still is too early to call but let's face it , you don't need a pro scout to make the call on that trade.

- jetsnation


- Evander Kane is, and was, the best player in the Buffalo deal. We traded two bad defencemen for eachother, but got Roslovic and Armia out of the deal. I’d say that’s a win overall.
- Hayes deal was a Maurice L.
- Stastny worked out.
- Losing Armia to dump Mason was a loss. We never should have signed him, and we didn’t need that cap space badly.
- Setoguchi and Frolik were pointless trades, but Fro was good.
- The Trouba trade was a huge loss. Pionk should have failed, and we got our own pick back.
- Laine trade is also a loss. It makes us look bad, and both players have regressed dramatically.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 25 @ 7:01 PM ET
Being realistic here.....the pro scouts may very well be doing a great job in identifying and evaluating players, however if the players don't want to come here, that may be the bigger issue.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 25 @ 8:31 PM ET
Being realistic here.....the pro scouts may very well be doing a great job in identifying and evaluating players, however if the players don't want to come here, that may be the bigger issue.
- bennythehat


You’re telling me they had talks with like 300 defencemen before signing Bitetto
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
- Evander Kane is, and was, the best player in the Buffalo deal. We traded two bad defencemen for eachother, but got Roslovic and Armia out of the deal. I’d say that’s a win overall.
- Hayes deal was a Maurice L.
- Stastny worked out.
- Losing Armia to dump Mason was a loss. We never should have signed him, and we didn’t need that cap space badly.
- Setoguchi and Frolik were pointless trades, but Fro was good.
- The Trouba trade was a huge loss. Pionk should have failed, and we got our own pick back.
- Laine trade is also a loss. It makes us look bad, and both players have regressed dramatically.

- Rexypoo


You can’t include our own pick in the Trouba trade. It’s two separate trades, once you trade a pick it’s no longer ours. We got Heinola and Pionk for Trouba. That’s a win

Laine trade is still way to early to tell but Laine’s struggles, disrespecting an assistant coach (who is now his head coach) shows he’s still the same 16 who threatened to kill a coach in Finland. I hope the best for Laine but the kid has warts, big ones
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 25 @ 9:14 PM ET
You’re telling me they had talks with like 300 defencemen before signing Bitetto
- Rexypoo


And you think he was the first choice ?
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 25 @ 10:08 PM ET
You can’t include our own pick in the Trouba trade. It’s two separate trades, once you trade a pick it’s no longer ours. We got Heinola and Pionk for Trouba. That’s a win

Laine trade is still way to early to tell but Laine’s struggles, disrespecting an assistant coach (who is now his head coach) shows he’s still the same 16 who threatened to kill a coach in Finland. I hope the best for Laine but the kid has warts, big ones

- Ross77


Pionk and a later 1st for Trouba is a massive L.
How they turned out, and who we picked, doesn’t matter. Could’ve just as easily been an AHLer D and a Jesse Winchester
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jul 25 @ 10:48 PM ET
Pionk and a later 1st for Trouba is a massive L.
How they turned out, and who we picked, doesn’t matter. Could’ve just as easily been an AHLer D and a Jesse Winchester

- Rexypoo


Pionk vs Trouba straight up is already a massive win for Winnipeg. The 1st round pick is just the icing and the cherry on top. Pionk blows away Trouba in just about every stat there is. It's not even close. Furthermore, Pionk is also less than half the salary of overpaid Trouba. You might actually be the only person in the world that thinks the Jets lost that trade so calling it a "massive loss " is just being even more ignorant.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jul 25 @ 10:51 PM ET
Pionk and a later 1st for Trouba is a massive L.
How they turned out, and who we picked, doesn’t matter. Could’ve just as easily been an AHLer D and a Jesse Winchester

- Rexypoo


It’s starting to sound like it is the Rexy scouting team that failed and not the Jets pro scouts. The Jets knew Pionk was good and trouba was not irreplaceable, rexy saw an ahl dman and a cornerstone defender. Failed by Twitter and his interpretation of data provided by those who profit from providing pseudo-relevant data.
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