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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
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Jul 24 @ 10:36 AM ET
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Peter Baugh
@Peter_Baugh
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4m
The #Avs have signed Cale Makar to a six-year deal.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 10:37 AM ET
I would think so
- Fakepartofme


I don’t see how, in one week, he could possibly assess if the kid really was remorseful. I don’t see how, in three days, he could possibly decide that it was in the kid’s best interests to ignore his request to not be drafted.

Assuming the kid is remorseful and wants to learn and put all of this behind him, he had a chance to get through the weekend and put it all behind him and come back again in a year.

Instead, Bergevin put a huge spotlight on him in (frank)ing Montreal where he’s going to be hounded. It’s such a bad move by the Habs.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
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Jul 24 @ 10:37 AM ET
Peter Baugh
@Peter_Baugh
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2m
Cale Makar's six-year deal has an average annual value of $9 million, per
@BartlettHockey
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 24 @ 10:38 AM ET
Bergy could probably still do one.
- Garnie


It was a good pick by the Habs even if it pissed off some people. Kid made a terrible mistake doing an immature and fairly common thing. Did it ruin the young woman's life? - probably not unless she lets it, he needs to grow up and she needs to move on. Did Craig McTavish murder someone while drunk driving and walk out of jail a year later into an NHL job?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 24 @ 10:39 AM ET
Sabres probably be better then us by then.


- Garnie

You know how the Leafs are cursed?

The Sabres are double-cursed right now.
winsix
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Jul 24 @ 10:39 AM ET
Peter Baugh
@Peter_Baugh
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Cale Makar's six-year deal has an average annual value of $9 million, per
@BartlettHockey
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- 21peter


Is MacKinnon still going to give the Avs a discount on his next deal?
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 10:40 AM ET
Peter Baugh
@Peter_Baugh
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2m
Cale Makar's six-year deal has an average annual value of $9 million, per
@BartlettHockey
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- 21peter


Holl for Draisatl straight up
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 24 @ 10:42 AM ET
Is MacKinnon still going to give the Avs a discount on his next deal?
- winsix

just like the Leafs' superstars??
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 24 @ 10:43 AM ET
I don’t see how, in one week, he could possibly assess if the kid really was remorseful. I don’t see how, in three days, he could possibly decide that it was in the kid’s best interests to ignore his request to not be drafted.

Assuming the kid is remorseful and wants to learn and put all of this behind him, he had a chance to get through the weekend and put it all behind him and come back again in a year.

Instead, Bergevin put a huge spotlight on him in (frank)ing Montreal where he’s going to be hounded. It’s such a bad move by the Habs.

- Canada Cup

The thing that makes me uneasy is that we aren’t hearing the kid’s side of the story regarding the apology.

If he really did make further attempts to apologize and was rebuffed, what exactly does sitting out a year accomplish?
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 10:44 AM ET
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 24 @ 10:44 AM ET
So apparently Chicago now has $45M tied up in four guys.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 24 @ 10:46 AM ET
So apparently Chicago now has $45M tied up in four guys.
- Atomic Wedgie

They won some cups after WW2, they’re ok for a while.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 24 @ 10:48 AM ET
Makar
54m
6x9
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 24 @ 10:48 AM ET
This week has sucked as a Leafs fan.

Losing players.

No Cap for any trades.

No picks in the draft.

Sitting on the sidelines while other teams make moves while being first round losers year after year, sucks.

Really pissed with this Leafs team and GM, especially after his "stand pat, I have confidence in the core because I have to, I created the mess" presser.

Seems like one day in retrospect this might be the start of one of the worst Leafs eras. I know the Leafs been losing forever but seems different now. The team is now sucking with top tier talent that are all probably gone in 4-5 years, at the same time, the Leafs aren't replenishing shiit.

This smells like it could get bad, really fu3king bad. Ya, this sucks.



PS....when did OEL become bad? Thought Leafs fans wanted him forever but now that he's a Canuck he sucks and his contract is horrible???
winsix
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Jul 24 @ 10:49 AM ET

- twiztedmike

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 24 @ 10:49 AM ET
So apparently Chicago now has $45M tied up in four guys.
- Atomic Wedgie

They won cups already with two if those guys.
Its all good
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 24 @ 10:56 AM ET
But what are “subsequent attempts”?

I know nothing about this kid, but that phrase just strikes me as odd.

What prevented him from making another apology?

- Atomic Wedgie

It sounds like the subsequent attempts were all through 3rd parties but I don't really know if he personally attempted to contact her again through further texts, emails, phone calls, or not.

It's pretty clear the victim is in a living hell right now and was exposed to adult men (he plays for a Men's team not a Junior team) in a very demeaning (to say the very least) manner. Does she want all of this attention? Does she want to be known as "that girl who that hockey player shared explicit sexual content without her consent" forever? Does she want to ever look at him again or hear his voice?

I don't know.

It's horrible in every possible respect and I wonder if she even knows what could possibly make this situation "better". Obviously, what he's done so far hasn't met her requirements and maybe he doesn't know how or what she precisely needs or how to deliver it.

I don't know.

All I know is that Montreal should not have selected this player. MB knowingly did it. He had discussions with MTL brass and told them he was going to do it if the "opportunity" presented itself. MTL brass went along with it and they walked through the repercussions of this pick and the consequences knowing full well the media scrutiny and the negative press was going to be tremendous.

They still made the pick in light of the recent Chicago scandal.

They picked this player and possibly subverted whatever redemption arc he was hoping to play (whether sincere or not).

It's just (frank)ed on every front.

All I can think about is my own daughter (who is only 8 at the moment) and how the victim's parents must be trying to handle this situation.

Ugh.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 10:57 AM ET
This week has sucked as a Leafs fan.

Losing players.

No Cap for any trades.

No picks in the draft.

Sitting on the sidelines while other teams make moves while being first round losers year after year, sucks.

Really pissed with this Leafs team and GM, especially after his "stand pat, I have confidence in the core because I have to, I created the mess" presser.

Seems like one day in retrospect this might be the start of one of the worst Leafs eras. I know the Leafs been losing forever but seems different now. The team is now sucking with top tier talent that are all probably gone in 4-5 years, at the same time, the Leafs aren't replenishing shiit.

This smells like it could get bad, really fu3king bad. Ya, this sucks.



PS....when did OEL become bad? Thought Leafs fans wanted him forever but now that he's a Canuck he sucks and his contract is horrible???

- underhill14


Last two or three years and was quite bad last year. Time on ice reduced, faced easiest lines and did badly.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 24 @ 10:59 AM ET
Holl for Draisatl straight up
- Canada Cup

Holl is too valuable.

#2Municorn
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:01 AM ET
Makar
54m
6x9

- Fakepartofme


Better deal than Jones
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:01 AM ET
Holl is too valuable.

#2Municorn

- mjones242


We going to get Hamilton now?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:01 AM ET
fire Dubas.
lost Hyman while keeping the entitled kids.

i hope Leafs will completely tank next seasond and are out of playoff contention by December so we owners will fire Dubas, Shanahan and Keefe -- in order to finally start constructing a team with a winning culture.

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 24 @ 11:02 AM ET
Holl is too valuable.

#2Municorn

- mjones242

mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 24 @ 11:03 AM ET
This week has sucked as a Leafs fan.

Losing players.

No Cap for any trades.

No picks in the draft.

Sitting on the sidelines while other teams make moves while being first round losers year after year, sucks.

Really pissed with this Leafs team and GM, especially after his "stand pat, I have confidence in the core because I have to, I created the mess" presser.

Seems like one day in retrospect this might be the start of one of the worst Leafs eras. I know the Leafs been losing forever but seems different now. The team is now sucking with top tier talent that are all probably gone in 4-5 years, at the same time, the Leafs aren't replenishing shiit.

This smells like it could get bad, really fu3king bad. Ya, this sucks.



PS....when did OEL become bad? Thought Leafs fans wanted him forever but now that he's a Canuck he sucks and his contract is horrible???

- underhill14

The OEL hate is pretty amusing. He may be slightly overpaid at his new AAV but he can still hockey.

Totally agreed with the Leafs so far this weekend though. But what do you expect when you only have 3 picks, barely any prospects worth mentioning in the system, and cap hell?

Dubas needs to do something of note beyond minor tinkering... please?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 24 @ 11:04 AM ET
We going to get Hamilton now?
- Canada Cup

Sure. Trade Rielly and trade Kerfoot. 8.5M unlocked. Bam!
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