Andersen was the only reason the leafs were any good at all before this season. He’s not bad at all, but I don’t see him coming here on a minimum contract.
- Hextall271

His one issue….where ever he goes he wants to start.

Absolutely no offense to bill but he is paid by the team. He has to really toe the line and be careful with any criticism. Which is expected. Anyone that fully believes any teams personal isn’t too bright. Take it with a huge grain of salt. Again no offense to bill. Even if he hates a move he can only slightly question it and also add some team spin as to why or how the move is good or can work.
- Stayin alive

To bills credit he’s one of the few who actual does criticize moves. So all in all bill is one of the best flyers media to follow

Yes. Agreed. I’ve been watching his reactions on Twitter however. Balanced as always and I was happy that he wasn’t standing on the edge of the Walt Whitman after the rr trade. Haha. He’s ok with it if he’s re signed and used second pair. People simply shouldn’t forget how god awful bad the buffa slugs have been.
- Hextall271

They judge risto's play during his time in buffalo but did anybody in buffalo play well besides eichel?
Even Taylor hall had his worst season playing in buffalo. I think CF is thinking that a change of scenery would help risto find his game. I think we are all hoping that that happens

Columbus traded Jones with 1 year remaining on contract for absolute humongous big return.


Philly sits on coots


Some teams get and some don’t
- Stayin alive

Maybe Coots hasn’t told them he won’t re-sign like Jone told CLB.

They judge risto's play during his time in buffalo but did anybody in buffalo play well besides eichel?
Even Taylor hall had his worst season playing in buffalo. I think CF is thinking that a change of scenery would help risto find his game. I think we are all hoping that that happens
- Bob Habib

No doubt that’s a gamble but I think you’re spot on with the idea regarding the trade. Young guy who may benefit from a change. I think the whole team is terrible. It’s like for Hall, based on his time in Buffalo albeit short the Bruins we’re mad signing him to that contract.

To bills credit he’s one of the few who actual does criticize moves. So all in all bill is one of the best flyers media to follow
- Stayin alive

Agreed and this is why I put a lot of stock in it. He’s able to word his takes carefully. I think if he thought this was a full tire fire of a trade you’d be able to read between the lines to understand he hates it..

Maybe Coots hasn’t told them he won’t re-sign like Jone told CLB.
- landros 2

Did you see the return? Who cares if coots wants to return. I bet he would’ve gotten close to that package.

How much improved... hmm lets see what the others in the conference do. Currently based on trajectories if other teams, imo the peak next 2-3 years is a 2nd round exit/maybe an uncompetitive CF exit. There is some danger the bottom will fall out

Cost: well, ha ha. Lets just say the cost is no hope of going higher than that in the next few years thereafter
- PT21

Maybe just maybe Chuck isn’t done. Their D is a hell of a lot better. While I think Jakes time here shouldn’t be viewed in the negative I think both him and the Flyers needed a change. I like Atkinson. He a better all around player, although Jakes offence is superior. I never liked the fact that Jake always picked and chose when he wanted to buy in defensively. That is such a detriment to the team when your viewed as a leader. The young guys see that.

I really don’t believe he was brought in to be a first pair guy. That’s Ellis with provy. Barring injury, I’d see him playing way less than the 23 mins he had been playing and perhaps even more sheltered. It’s a gamble but the rationale is that maybe under those circumstances he does well as a stay at home defender.

The whole draft pick thing I’ve mentioned before. I believe they’ll re sign him and that first is in a weak draft where they couldn’t scout. Be dry mucus. Crap shoot. I never like pissing away picks but it also could be that the org feels they could afford to part with the pick as we’ve got quite a few prospects already after years of sticking the cupboards. It’s not like they’ve been passing away picks year after year like pitt.
- Hextall271

Yeah you guys have to have several deep runs into the playoff bracket before you hit those levels of draining the draft pick warchest.

Did you see the return? Who cares if coots wants to return. I bet he would’ve gotten close to that package.
- Stayin alive

Maybe Chucks not done.

Did you see the return? Who cares if coots wants to return. I bet he would’ve gotten close to that package.
- Stayin alive

I think they would have gotten more. The time to think about trading Coots is the deadline. The flyers would have to be having another disappointing season and any team who is in the plAyoffs, thinks they have any shot at the cup will want Coots. Then add in his current contract and bam, he is the missing piece for some, most would think he is. Hell I would retain half and get more assets if I could.

If the flyers are playing really well, he remains your best player

They have missed nothing by not trading him so far

Yeah you guys have to have several deep runs into the playoff bracket before you hit those levels of draining the draft pick warchest.
- stayinthefnnet

For sure. However the way pitt has done so very callously means that soon the prospect pool is going to be bone dry and you’ll need to trade Malkin to replenish somewhat. But the positive is with a 5 year run of bottom feeding you’re sure to get a few generational talents gifted from the league.

Some-off-the-cuff baffling moves by other teams.

1. Wtf is going on with the Canes? They are on the ascent, and they are going to lose their #1RD, and add nobody? Are they going to keep rolling with the completely inadequate Trochet as their 2C? They are now way under the cap.

2. Oilers: Why add Keith and Hyman? The latter is a great add, but for god's sake, why not go after Seth Jones/Dougie if they can spend 12 m on these 2 players?

3. Makar gets 9 m for 6 and Seth Jones gets 9.5 for 8? Is Bowman now going to bring back Saad yet again? Why make a signing like that after Toews is either not going to return or be a Covid long hauler?

4. Wtf are the Isles doing with the freed up money? Who is playing RW on the 1st line? I assume they are going after an UFA. Who? There is no one. Is Wallstrom going to go from healthy scratch for Palmieri and Zajac in CF to starting 1RW on a team that should contend?

5. On a not quite baffling note, if I were the Bruins, I would not have signed Hall. They need a better 2nd line than Hall-Krejci.

For sure. However the way pitt has done so very callously means that soon the prospect pool is going to be bone dry and you’ll need to trade Malkin to replenish somewhat. But the positive is with a 5 year run of bottom feeding you’re sure to get a few generational talents gifted from the league.
- Hextall271

Oh I’m not saying they’ve always spent wisely at the market. And even when theyve drafted, they haven’t exactly done very well.

Derrick pouliot (think he was last in your minor system) pick absolutely killed them. Beau Bennett. Joe morrow. Three big misses which didn’t even convert into anything asset wise. Then only even making one first round selection in the last 7 drafts. Make no mistake the cupboard is as bare as bare can be. But when you have the shot over a decade plus, you go for it. Realistically, but for some poor decision making identity wise and horrifically ill timed goaltending, they probably could have gotten another one.

Maybe just maybe Chuck isn’t done. Their D is a hell of a lot better. While I think Jakes time here shouldn’t be viewed in the negative I think both him and the Flyers needed a change. I like Atkinson. He a better all around player, although Jakes offence is superior. I never liked the fact that Jake always picked and chose when he wanted to buy in defensively. That is such a detriment to the team when your viewed as a leader. The young guys see that.
- landros 2

The only thing I see more coming is what Tomahawk says: an insurance policy for a goal meltdown that could ruin everything.

This is his "Dear God please do not let me be fired season."

Some-off-the-cuff baffling moves by other teams.

1. Wtf is going on with the Canes? They are on the ascent, and they are going to lose their #1RD, and add nobody? Are they going to keep rolling with the completely inadequate Trochet as their 2C? They are now way under the cap.

2. Oilers: Why add Keith and Hyman? The latter is a great add, but for god's sake, why not go after Seth Jones/Dougie if they can spend 12 m on these 2 players?

3. Makar gets 9 m for 6 and Seth Jones gets 9.5 for 8? Is Bowman now going to bring back Saad yet again? Why make a signing like that after Toews is either not going to return or be a Covid long hauler?

4. Wtf are the Isles doing with the freed up money? Who is playing RW on the 1st line? I assume they are going after an UFA. Who? There is no one. Is Wallstrom going to go from healthy scratch for Palmieri and Zajac in CF to starting 1RW on a team that should contend?

5. On a not quite baffling note, if I were the Bruins, I would not have signed Hall. They need a better 2nd line than Hall-Krejci.
- PT21

Thinks canes believe they can sign Hamilton

Oilers will oil

They must be live towes is going to be back. How is the draft pool ranked? If they’re solid I can see Jones being there

Hate to say it but the isles have a plan, not sure what but they will be there. I can see them with tarasenko and somehow 1/2 the cap hit

Hall is not a winner, with you, other teams getting better n they’re getting older

Some-off-the-cuff baffling moves by other teams.

1. Wtf is going on with the Canes? They are on the ascent, and they are going to lose their #1RD, and add nobody? Are they going to keep rolling with the completely inadequate Trochet as their 2C? They are now way under the cap.

2. Oilers: Why add Keith and Hyman? The latter is a great add, but for god's sake, why not go after Seth Jones/Dougie if they can spend 12 m on these 2 players?

3. Makar gets 9 m for 6 and Seth Jones gets 9.5 for 8? Is Bowman now going to bring back Saad yet again? Why make a signing like that after Toews is either not going to return or be a Covid long hauler?

4. Wtf are the Isles doing with the freed up money? Who is playing RW on the 1st line? I assume they are going after an UFA. Who? There is no one. Is Wallstrom going to go from healthy scratch for Palmieri and Zajac in CF to starting 1RW on a team that should contend?

5. On a not quite baffling note, if I were the Bruins, I would not have signed Hall. They need a better 2nd line than Hall-Krejci.
- PT21

No team has confused me more than the canes. I think hyman will be a great fit but that is an overpay. The Keith deal is nonsensical. I want the oil to absolutely suck. The makar deal when compared to jones could be a steal of steals. The sample size is incredibly small, but you are buying great years there with no age impacted drag down ones. Curious as to what your alternative would be for Boston. Is krejci confirmed to go back?

Columbus traded Jones with 1 year remaining on contract for absolute humongous big return.


Philly sits on coots


Some teams get and some don’t
- Stayin alive

If we are trying to win now, why would we trade coots?

No team has confused me more than the canes. I think hyman will be a great fit but that is an overpay. The Keith deal is nonsensical. I want the oil to absolutely suck. The makar deal when compared to jones could be a steal of steals. The sample size is incredibly small, but you are buying great years there with no age impacted drag down ones. Curious as to what your alternative would be for Boston. Is krejci confirmed to go back?
- stayinthefnnet

Trade for Reinhart/sign Hyman. Let Krejci walk. Try adding Saad on LW. Let Hall go.

Something like that. Good D if healthy, great 1st line, great pp. But nothing after that 1st line. Gets killed year after year in playoffs.

@wcorvette: yeah, I agree completely Lou has some devious plan up his butt. But Tarasenko is not a Lou like move.

If we are trying to win now, why would we trade coots?
- Richieattack18

who knows? if the phillies are trying to win now, why do they still continue to trot vince velasquez out? i dont know what more this dude needs to do to stop getting a (frank)ing uniform.

Trade for Reinhart/sign Hyman. Let Krejci walk. Try adding Saad on LW. Let Hall go.

Something like that. Good D if healthy, great 1st line, great pp. But nothing after that 1st line. Gets killed year after year in playoffs.

@wcorvette: yeah, I agree completely Lou has some devious plan up his butt. But Tarasenko is not a Lou like move.
- PT21

i think reinhart was a very astute move by florida. didnt really give a whole lot up.

i wouldnt mind saad on the pens if they get the flexibility somehow.

they definitely overpaid, but i really think hyman could be the kunitz piece that the oilers need. you can have the stars but you need those guys to take the next step.

whatever. (frank) them. (frank) boston as well.

So we got Gudas again, but with a really horrendous +/-? For a 1st rounder?

Interesting.
- therabbi

He’s better than gudas.

If we are trying to win now, why would we trade coots?
- Richieattack18

This. At this point in time, the moves Fletch made are totally incompatible with trading Coots.

Trade for Reinhart/sign Hyman. Let Krejci walk. Try adding Saad on LW. Let Hall go.

Something like that. Good D if healthy, great 1st line, great pp. But nothing after that 1st line. Gets killed year after year in playoffs.

@wcorvette: yeah, I agree completely Lou has some devious plan up his butt. But Tarasenko is not a Lou like move.
- PT21

Just an example of Lou, he will pull some shxt

Some-off-the-cuff baffling moves by other teams.

1. Wtf is going on with the Canes? They are on the ascent, and they are going to lose their #1RD, and add nobody? Are they going to keep rolling with the completely inadequate Trochet as their 2C? They are now way under the cap.

2. Oilers: Why add Keith and Hyman? The latter is a great add, but for god's sake, why not go after Seth Jones/Dougie if they can spend 12 m on these 2 players?

3. Makar gets 9 m for 6 and Seth Jones gets 9.5 for 8? Is Bowman now going to bring back Saad yet again? Why make a signing like that after Toews is either not going to return or be a Covid long hauler?

4. Wtf are the Isles doing with the freed up money? Who is playing RW on the 1st line? I assume they are going after an UFA. Who? There is no one. Is Wallstrom going to go from healthy scratch for Palmieri and Zajac in CF to starting 1RW on a team that should contend?

5. On a not quite baffling note, if I were the Bruins, I would not have signed Hall. They need a better 2nd line than Hall-Krejci.
- PT21

1) canes are very careful….pretty much gave away Jake Bean…not sure what’s up there.
2)tough for EDM to draw FA’s….but Hyman is fantastic and I’m again in the minority but I think an 19 minute a night Keith still has great value.
3)Hawks got a good-great d man in Jones…long term sign there through the re-tool.
4)I still think that’s where Taresenko goes.
5)Taylor Hall is worth 6 mil a year all day, every day. I agree Krejci though is a tad long in the tooth…they may still try and upgrade there.