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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:58 PM ET
Doesnt need to be more talented. Needs to be better which I think they are with Atkinson and less Jake.
- hello it's me 2050


Agreed. We’ve had too many passers and it hasn’t worked. Needed a change
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:58 PM ET
Any more sex offenders for the Habs to draft here?
- hereticpride


Rumor is Cosby will be announcing their 5th round pick for Montreal.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jul 24 @ 1:00 PM ET
Yeah Dallas will take Stankoven and Raty and people will be screaming how the Flyers skipped over them.
- Glak18


Dallas with another steal in the second round with Stankoven? Like Jason Robertson.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
It's not going above 6, or the Flyers have no choice, but to trade him at the TDL to recoup.

I know most people always assume "This guy makes X amount so they have to automatically get a huge raise"...that doesn't always happen. You have to ask your self if another team would offer Risto 7m to be their 1D. The market will dictate the contract.

- Glak18


So if you do not resign him you spent those assets on a rental of rr? Is that good asset management?

Name some players who have taken less money on their contracts when in the prime years of their careers and not coming off of a major injury or dealing with off-ice issues?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
One for One. No other pieces I am aware of
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


this sounds too reasonable to be true
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
Fata was a 1st round 6th overall pick. He had a really high ceiling. Rico was highly regarded for his speed and shot. Had the speed but couldn't keep up with himself. Sounds pretty darn close to Tuomaala beside the draft position and physicality.

He's a Flyer now, I support him and I hope he succeeds.

- dubc55


Everything I know about Tuomaala and reading about him is, maybe a coincidence, he plays like a bigger Atkinson.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 24 @ 1:02 PM ET
So if you do not resign him you spent those assets on a rental of rr? Is that good asset management?

Name some players who have taken less money on their contracts when in the prime years of their careers and not coming off of a major injury or dealing with off-ice issues?

- corduroy


Didn't larson just take less?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:03 PM ET
So if you do not resign him you spent those assets on a rental of rr? Is that good asset management?

Name some players who have taken less money on their contracts when in the prime years of their careers and not coming off of a major injury or dealing with off-ice issues?

- corduroy


I'm tired of this asset management narrative, I want more wins...point blank THAT'S IT. If they win more games and become competitive they can spend every draft pick until 2080 for all I care.

I get it, some care about winning and others care more about micromanagement of every team decision.
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:04 PM ET
OMG now I'm seeing people complain that because they traded for Atkinson that the team is too small and not physical enough....

I swear Flyer fans are worse than politics, they have no clue what they want by wanting everything, but not too much.

- Glak18



Abortions for some...miniature American flags for others!

Haven't seen action like this in too long. Love what I'm seeing. Perhaps even getting excited for the upcoming campaign??
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 24 @ 1:05 PM ET
I thought Voracek was impossible to move! 👏😮
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 24 @ 1:05 PM ET

Sam Carchidi
@BroadStBull
It's been a long time since I've seen someone as excited as Cam Atkinson to come to Philly. Besides his talent and gritty play, he will bring a refreshing attitude to the #Flyers.

Sounds good.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 24 @ 1:05 PM ET

Sam Carchidi
@BroadStBull
It's been a long time since I've seen someone as excited as Cam Atkinson to come to Philly. Besides his talent and gritty play, he will bring a refreshing attitude to the #Flyers.

Sounds good.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:05 PM ET
Most would. Lets dig in. Fletcher traded 2 crappy defenseman with no trade value what-so-ever (Fletcher confirmed he forced Buffalo to take Hagg in order for the deal to happen cap wise), 1 2nd tier forward prospect that will take 3-4 years to develop before you even know what you have, 2022 and 2023 second round picks (which he has time to recoup in the future) and a 7th round pick which he had two of already. And in return Fletcher gained cap space and a legitimate top 4 defenseman that add toughness and skill.

Yup, I think Fletcher did an outstanding job!

- jd250





corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:06 PM ET
If he resigns before the season, I do not think he will, it will be for what he is making now imo.

Only the star players will get the big bucks as we have seen. He isnt a star player.

- hello it's me 2050


The assets cf traded for him says he is a star player
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 24 @ 1:08 PM ET
Sam Carchidi
@BroadStBull
It's been a long time since I've seen someone as excited as Cam Atkinson to come to Philly. Besides his talent and gritty play, he will bring a refreshing attitude to the #Flyers.

Sounds good.

- Deasr1


We are not a destination.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 24 @ 1:08 PM ET
It's not going above 6, or the Flyers have no choice, but to trade him at the TDL to recoup.

I know most people always assume "This guy makes X amount so they have to automatically get a huge raise"...that doesn't always happen. You have to ask your self if another team would offer Risto 7m to be their 1D. The market will dictate the contract.

- Glak18

Jones 9.5 miro 8+ makar 9 mil risto at age 27 gonna get 6 maybe 7. That IS the market
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 24 @ 1:09 PM ET
I thought Voracek was impossible to move! 👏😮
- THE EVIL WITHIN


He was. This is all a mirage.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:09 PM ET
Fletcher actually made a good hockey trade.
- PLindbergh31

Why does this remind me of the Hartnell for Umberger trade?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:10 PM ET
Abortions for some...miniature American flags for others!

Haven't seen action like this in too long. Love what I'm seeing. Perhaps even getting excited for the upcoming campaign??

- FloHaake


I've said this many times last year, worse experience/season I have ever been apart of in 40+ years.

Now I'm extremely excited to see the team play. The question is will they continue to be bipolar (they look like a top team then all of a sudden look like the worst), not show up for a full 60 mins?

If some of those issues disappear then maybe we know the problems of this team were traded away.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 24 @ 1:10 PM ET
We are not a destination.
- Ftown19125


If you're in Columbus or Buffalo, it IS a destination. Everything is relative.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:10 PM ET
Didn't larson just take less?
- hello it's me 2050


He gave up 166K a year for a NMC and a modified NTC, and to play where he wanted to -- do you see rr doing that? I can see cf giving that to rr -- but not at a discount
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 24 @ 1:11 PM ET
Picks that fans completely over rate and have zero bearing on the current roster.

Great he is on the last year. Then they can see if all the prior years are as bad so many say now that he is away fro Buffalo. Then you can resign or walk away.

- hello it's me 2050

Picks that fans over rate.


Every team~ you have to build through the draft

Do you see the correlation?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 24 @ 1:11 PM ET
We are not a destination.
- Ftown19125

He was traded here didnt have a choice slappy. He is an elite level player as well right? Man the narrative you try to spin is sad.

How about he free agents to be that all signed elsewhere. Wonder why they didnt look this direction. Seth Jones no interest in philly.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:11 PM ET
Jones 9.5 miro 8+ makar 9 mil risto at age 27 gonna get 6 maybe 7. That IS the market
- Stayin alive


So I guess that means Adam Fox will be getting 11-12m...I mean Norris.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 24 @ 1:11 PM ET
1/4 of the team at a minimum turned over
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