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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:08 AM ET
A few people spouting of on Twitter the day of a trade before the dust has settled. Chortle.
- Sublime55


Those posts seem to be from eagles fans who only watch hockey when the flyers in the final.

Really think we have to see how this plays out. Might just work out well if deployed correctly.

Bill is going to get roasted on Twitter for stating that the RR trade isn’t the worst in the history of sports.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:08 AM ET
Provorov-ristolainen
Sanheim-Ellis
York-Braun

I have to admit, I like what Fletcher has done with the defense. The offense still looks like a mess in my opinion.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 24 @ 11:09 AM ET
People…. Wake up!!!! The flat cap is as real as the fake virus.

Jones 9.5 mil
Makar just signed 9 mil
Miro 8+ mil

It’s an excuse for poop cap and asset management
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:10 AM ET
Provorov-ristolainen
Sanheim-Ellis
York-Braun

I have to admit, I like what Fletcher has done with the defense. The offense still looks like a mess in my opinion.

- SuperSchennBros


I still think fletch has to make a move or two on O. We need someone with a shoot first mentality. I can’t handle another year of trying to pass it into the net.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 24 @ 11:11 AM ET
Staying alive makes a lot of understandable points, given that he’s from Buffalo
- Pitchman-67

I’m well traveled. Lol
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:12 AM ET
So the next day after the buffalo trade I still don’t like it.
Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The kind you get after drinking bad tequila all night without hydrating.
I feel the CF painted himself into a corner and then had to over haul the d core even if it was costly.
I’ll wait and see how Risto plays. Chuck better hope he is solid. If not and he is just as bad as the buffalo numbers suggest you should not in any circumstances sign an extension.
Chuck should have at least demanded the second round pick back if the flyers don’t or can’t sign Risto.
Then what will the contract cost?
Was there a free agent dman available that could have filled the second pairing hole?
I really hope CF listened to the scouts and that these same scouts know something we don’t.
It would be one thing if Risto had 2-3 years left on his contract to give the draft picks away.
Essentially CF traded Ghost, Haag, the 13th overall, and two second round picks for a second pair suspect dman with one year left on his contract.
If CF has the mentality that this it what it takes to get better then he is not good at his job.
I would argue the picks traded to buffalo and available cap space added with the Ghost trade could have been better utilized.
I’m not going to hate on Risto but I’m on record saying I wouldn’t have done this deal.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:13 AM ET
People…. Wake up!!!! The flat cap is as real as the fake virus.

Jones 9.5 mil
Makar just signed 9 mil
Miro 8+ mil

It’s an excuse for poop cap and asset management

- Stayin alive


Didn’t you mean poor asset management?
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 24 @ 11:15 AM ET
How are we going to make room for Coutourier next year? We will NEED to have young guys make the jump.

We don't need to be Buffalo, but I never agreed with Hextalls pseudo-rebuild while trying to be competitive.

Just bite the bullet. Admit your mistake and trade Ellis, (hopefully sign & trade Coutourier). Move Jake now, then BOOM.

Ideally a bad team for a year or 2 in time for the LOADED 2023 draft.

Not necessarily Buffalo with better management.

- DrMidnite


You really do hate this franchise. There is no back walking from here. They are going for it so stop with the silly talk about trading Coots. You really should just switch up franchises. This doesn’t sound fun for you. Sports are for entertainment so pick someone that you will enjoy routing for.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 24 @ 11:15 AM ET
Provorov-ristolainen
Sanheim-Ellis
York-Braun

I have to admit, I like what Fletcher has done with the defense. The offense still looks like a mess in my opinion.

- SuperSchennBros


If your playing risto on top pair and minutes you will be very upset. He’s not a 22-25 minute dman. That’s when he gets exposed. He’s best at that 17-20 minute 2nd pair. If he doesn’t pair well with sanheim and has to play with provy then you have to move York or sanheim up with Ellis and move provy down to 2nd pair. Which might actually work out better.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:16 AM ET
Oh and I may add that CF also set a bad precedent for himself that he can be pushed into bad deals. One has to think that the other GMs are going to push and hold out for picks.
In CFs defense Chicago played into trade insanity. The thing is i would takes Seth Jones all day before Risto.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:16 AM ET
fake virus.

- Stayin alive

Kinda funny how the tune has changed on covid once they realized it’s ravaging their unvaccinated voting base.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 24 @ 11:20 AM ET
Didn’t you mean poor asset management?
- bird_dog_pa

No I meant like it says. Sh*t cap management and sh*t asset management
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
People…. Wake up!!!! The flat cap is as real as the fake virus.

Jones 9.5 mil
Makar just signed 9 mil
Miro 8+ mil

It’s an excuse for poop cap and asset management

- Stayin alive

It does seem that way, doesn't it? I really didn't think, or maybe I was just hoping, that prices would come down. What I really don't understand is why Adam Larsson took that contract with Seattle. I am sure the Flyers and many other teams would have paid him more to play for them. This one was a head scratcher.
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Jul 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
Kinda funny how the tune has changed on covid once they realized it’s ravaging their unvaccinated voting base.
- hereticpride


61% of the unvaccinated are minorities.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:28 AM ET
61% of the unvaccinated are minorities.
- Sir_Robot_Farts

Well you can’t force people to get it. What’s that got to do with the right finally pulling their head out of their ass lol
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:29 AM ET
Those posts seem to be from eagles fans who only watch hockey when the flyers in the final.

Really think we have to see how this plays out. Might just work out well if deployed correctly.

Bill is going to get roasted on Twitter for stating that the RR trade isn’t the worst in the history of sports.

- Hextall271


I’m starting to come around on the trade after thinking about it a little more about the trade. A lot will depend on what terms are on an extension, presuming he plays well enough here.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 24 @ 11:29 AM ET
Kinda funny how the tune has changed on covid once they realized it’s ravaging their unvaccinated voting base.
- hereticpride



Yeah I shouldn’t joke. I say fake virus which I don’t really mean. Obviously the virus is real. Just very salty over the close everything results. And this coming from a democratic socialist. Back to hockey. (frank) chuck. Lmao
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 24 @ 11:30 AM ET
Didn’t you mean poor asset management?
- bird_dog_pa


Who DONT you want from that group?
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jul 24 @ 11:31 AM ET
61% of the unvaccinated are minorities.
- Sir_Robot_Farts


Why? Do tell.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jul 24 @ 11:32 AM ET
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/flyers/flyers-fans-analysts-shred-illogical-rasmus-ristolainen-trade

cf is a winner

- corduroy


Hahaha but I'm being told Risto is Shea Weber and the trade was great, no questions asked. Fletcher is God. This link you posted must be fake, right?
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 24 @ 11:37 AM ET
so who gets traded today - JVR? Laughton? TK?
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:38 AM ET
Hahaha but I'm being told Risto is Shea Weber and the trade was great, no questions asked. Fletcher is God. This link you posted must be fake, right?
- dubc55


A couple of the Twitter posts in that link are from the hysterics at SB Nation…Yeah, I’ll take their opinions with giant grain of salt.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:40 AM ET
Definitely some good names falling to the Flyers here.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 24 @ 11:41 AM ET
Well you can’t force people to get it. What’s that got to do with the right finally pulling their head out of their ass lol
- hereticpride
I wouldn't be so sure about either statement.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 24 @ 11:42 AM ET
Who DONT you want from that group?
- DrMidnite

It was a point to show teams are spending big money. Always will. Teams that are crying about flat cap are the teams stuck with their sh*t contracts. 🤷‍♂️
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