Just frustrating that they take a 5 mil bottom 6er from the cap strapped Stanley cup champs, then pick a marginal player from us when Jvr was cheaper than gourde and would have still been the krakens highest profile selection behind giordano
- Shrike

Gourde is a better player than you're giving him credit for. He may be a bottom 6 player on TB but can play higher on other teams. He's a high energy skilled player who doesn't quit.

I'm guessing Tampa & Detroit will link up eventually. Cuz Stevie Y

I thought I read somewhere that Francis said it. I'll see if I can find it.

Edit: I could not be more wrong lol https://www.prohockeyrumo...ight-to-spend-to-cap.html

That said, I agree with you that draft day indicated otherwise. But as you also said, we shall see when the dust settles.
- Scoob

How did draft day indicate otherwise?

Not a fit on this team in my opinion.
- MJL

Kind of what I thought. I was trying to think it through as he might not be expensive. Might be able to get a short term. Just didn't know if his skillset fit in with this make up of the defense.

Its weird, but as I look at their roster, I see a pattern. Pick a guy for a position, provided his salary is about 40% less than the average for that position.

Thus, Gourde is not cheap at 3C, has term, NTC. But how about at 1C? Eberle is not cheap either, but a good bargain as 1RW. Ditto Donskoi at 2RW. Larrson at 1RD? Tanev at 1LW?

I cannot figure out the Gio/Oleksiak combo, unless Gio leaves and JO takes over at 1LD. But everywhere else, I see a simple rule of thumb: pick BPA for a position provided existing/projected salary is about 60% of league average for that position.


If I am right, they don;t muck around much in trades/UFA. If they do, I am flat out wrong. *smile*
- PT21

They passed on numerous players that fit your premise. It had nothing to do with percentage of salary. You overcomplicate everything and see everything as some statistical or odds based formula. Instead of it being simple hockey decisions based on what kind of players they were looking for and what kind of mix they wanted while keeping leverage to make moves for the future.

Kind of what I thought. I was trying to think it through as he might not be expensive. Might be able to get a short term. Just didn't know if his skillset fit in with this make up of the defense.
- J35Bacher

Ellis and Provorov are going to play on the PP. He's not a strong fit with Sanheim. They need a player more slanted towards the D side with PK ability that is a decent puck mover.

Ellis and Provorov are going to play on the PP. He's not a strong fit with Sanheim. They need a player more slanted towards the D side with PK ability that is a decent puck mover.
- MJL

Who do you suggest? Always with the description of who they need yet never offer an suggestions.

Ellis and Provorov are going to play on the PP. He's not a strong fit with Sanheim. They need a player more slanted towards the D side with PK ability that is a decent puck mover.
- MJL

I guess I thought he was a little more well rounded.

Who do you suggest? Always with the description of who they need yet never offer an suggestions.
- hello it's me 2050

I'll take a shot.

Big game: Hamilton, he would only cost money but that might have past with Ellis move.


UFA: Ryan Murray is interesting. Bogosian played well in TOR i thought, might be able to get on short, low AAV deal.

Trade: Manson fits a lot of needs but not sure the costs.

This guy gets it.
- PT21

chuck said he won’t use the 1st to dump salary.

Final "The Athletic" mock has us taking Chaz Lucius.

https://www.eliteprospect...player/512106/chaz-lucius

https://thehockeywriters....l-draft-prospect-profile/
- MBFlyerfan

Lucius missed a lot of time this season with a knee injury. Missed the World Under 18 Tournament as well. Lacks pace in his game and not active at all defensively. Has skating issues. He does have some slick hands though and a nice shot.

Who do you suggest? Always with the description of who they need yet never offer an suggestions.
- hello it's me 2050

To be fair, and I almost never agree with MJL, why does he have to offer a suggestion like he actually has a say in the move?

The Flyers should get "Player X" for "Blah Blah"...ok. Why does the other team want to take it, just because it's hypothetical? No matter what it really doesn't matter because it's stupid.

Flyers should trade Giroux for 8 1st round picks!! Ok and someone says that's stupid because no team would pay that. Ok trade Giroux for a 6th round pick! Ok and someone says that's stupid because that's not enough. Everything in between is still stupid because both parties, that are not making the suggestion, have to agree whether someone likes it or not.

To be fair, and I almost never agree with MJL, why does he have to offer a suggestion like he actually has a say in the move?

The Flyers should get "Player X" for "Blah Blah"...ok. Why does the other team want to take it, just because it's hypothetical? No matter what it really doesn't matter because it's stupid.

Flyers should trade Giroux for 8 1st round picks!! Ok and someone says that's stupid because no team would pay that. Ok trade Giroux for a 6th round pick! Ok and someone says that's stupid because that's not enough. Everything in between is still stupid because both parties, that are not making the suggestion, have to agree whether someone likes it or not.
- Glak18

He is the smartest guy in the room. It would be great to hear who he would pursue.

chuck said he won’t use the 1st to dump salary.
- black_francis

He was just illustrating what it would take...

He is the smartest guy in the room. It would be great to hear who he would pursue.
- hello it's me 2050

But you don't need to give a names when you have traits you want in that player.

Solid defensively because you want to pair him with Sanheim, provides some physicality, can play some PK.

Those are the type of guys you would target when looking to fill that role.

Its weird, but as I look at their roster, I see a pattern. Pick a guy for a position, provided his salary is about 40% less than the average for that position.

Thus, Gourde is not cheap at 3C, has term, NTC. But how about at 1C? Eberle is not cheap either, but a good bargain as 1RW. Ditto Donskoi at 2RW. Larrson at 1RD? Tanev at 1LW?

I cannot figure out the Gio/Oleksiak combo, unless Gio leaves and JO takes over at 1LD. But everywhere else, I see a simple rule of thumb: pick BPA for a position provided existing/projected salary is about 60% of league average for that position.

- PT21

Good point. I didn't do the math as you did, I just used my eyes that night and assumed they had a cap minimum mandate.

If I am right, they don;t muck around much in trades/UFA. If they do, I am flat out wrong. *smile*

Ek says they're making noise about Eichel. My gut says Eichel would not view that positively. He strikes me as Hall 2.0 - not happy and fully engaged unless he's on what he considers a good team.

He is the smartest guy in the room. It would be great to hear who he would pursue.
- hello it's me 2050

He knows he's not the smartest one in the room.

But you don't need to give a names when you have traits you want in that player.

Solid defensively because you want to pair him with Sanheim, provides some physicality, can play some PK.

Those are the type of guys you would target when looking to fill that role.
- J35Bacher

It is real easy to give the traits. Throw out some names.

But you don't need to give a names when you have traits you want in that player.

Solid defensively because you want to pair him with Sanheim, provides some physicality, can play some PK.

Those are the type of guys you would target when looking to fill that role.
- J35Bacher

Exactly and by using those characteristics the other person can use their imagination on who that player can be.

He knows he's not the smartest one in the room.
- Glak18

If I'm ever the smartest one in the room there's a problem and everyone should flee the room immediately lol

It is real easy to give the traits. Throw out some names.
- hello it's me 2050

Bob Barker.

Bill Meltzer: NHL Entry Draft Day: Flyers
- bmeltzer

How many assets will cf give away in the next seven days?

Bob Barker.
- Glak18

Please spay or neuter your pets.

never even thought of Eichel in Seattle

If I'm ever the smartest one in the room there's a problem and everyone should flee the room immediately lol
- Scoob